On Monday, Nobel-laureate Paul Krugman wrote that Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner’s plan was not only doomed to fail, it was, in fact, filling him with despair.
But life can’t be all despair for the Princeton prof. Earlier this month, an enterprising songwriter named Jonathan Mann wrote a catchy little diddy wondering why the New York Times columnist wasn’t in the corner office at 1500 Pennsylvania Avenue.
Tell us what you think. Should Obama dump Tim and put in Paul?

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If you want Krugman for Treasury perhaps you would be more comfortable living in Venezuela. I’ll drive you to the airport.
- Posted by CommonSenseYES, YES, YES!!!!!
- Posted by Joan TognacciPlease, get Krugman. What we have to do, is wait the recession (depression?) out. No amount of money is going to stimulate the economy until the American people are out of debt. This will take at least 10 years. Geitner’s plan will take 20 years because it won’t work and then we’ll have to pay off the Government’s debt too.
- Posted by Jan HenryIn two of his weekly columns in the New York TImes, Mr. Krugman suggested that one way out of the current economic crisis is to look at how World War II brought the US (and the world) out of recession. Not only is this idea hawkish, and ugly, but it is not in accord with the facts. Industrial production more than doubled between 1932 and 1937, at which time the US was still overwhelming AGAINST getting involved in war in Europe. The same index rose another 50% by December 1941 when the US finally enterred World War II. Thus, MOST of the recovery from the Great Depression of 1932 came by 1937, and viritually all of the recovery was finished by late 1941. All BEFORE the US entered the war. I do not trust a man who gets his economic facts wrong and wants to run a complicated economy.
- Posted by Anton-Scott GoustinObama can’t get rid of Geithner, some people may not like him because they think he looks sneaky, but he knows way too much about all the tricks these financial institutions in Manhattan were doing. However, I do think someone with a brilliant mind like Krugman should have a position in one of these many vacant positions at the Department of Treasury that we keep hearing about.
- Posted by Paul DurkeeMaybe economic advisor. He will be a good advisor.
- Posted by RnI have no idea why the “honeymoon” ended so quickly for Tim.
Geithner is, by Krugman’s own estimation, an exceptional mind and adept enough to task at the post he’s currently at. That said, I do think that Krugman would be a stellar nomination once Geithner steps down from his post (which often happens at least once during the course of any President’s administration).
Krugman is brilliant, media-savvy, and center-to-moderate in his liberal tendencies. He’s perfect for the position, but let’s give Geithner some time to deal. God knows, few treasury secretaries have ever been under such pressure to perform from the very moment that their tenure began.
- Posted by JohnAnd please, when reading CommonSense’s comments, realize that this person goes to a ‘very special’ school which seems to have taught them to overweight certain individual preferences . Some examples of overweighting include “finger-painting” over health care funding, “recess” over financial regulatory mechanism placement, and “having the crust cut off the corners of [his] sandwich, just like at home” over the equal protection clause.
- Posted by JohnMr. Goustin, you conveniently omitted the 1938 recession the U.S. economy endured due to deficit reduction by the President and Congress. You also fail to take in account that much of the increased manufacturing in 1939 and 1940 was for the Lend Lease act to supply England through the Battle of Britain. At the same time Roosevelt was building aircraft carriers and modern mono planes to arm these ships with. All of this transpired before 1941.
I think when one looks at income to debt ratio, wage/price controls and rationing in the context of a self sufficient economy, examining the war years for ideas is quite useful. Rather than build massive amounts of equipment for war, a similar more sophisticated approach could be employed to produce and deliver solar panels, hydrogen cell generators, wind turbines and natural gas conversion for automobiles kits all around the country. The U.S. supplied the British, Russians and ourselves in two theaters during WW II. Surely distributing modern sustainable energy products to all Americans throughout the country today can’t be as difficult as shipping instruments of war around the world 60 years ago?
- Posted by AnubisSo far Tim Geithner (aka Obama) has been pushing the US financial cart in the same direction as Bush; did any one expect any thing different?
- Posted by Joe the money makerHenry Paulson distributed 100s of billions of dollars to Wall Street where he belongs and Tim is doing the same, he too belongs to the same gang.
Some correction is required there if not a big CHANGE. Paul Krugman seems to have an encoraging approach !!
If you want to understand this whole debate between Krugman and Summers/Geithner I highly recommend viewing online the first installment of the film Heist! (http://mourningamerica.com) Heist tells the story of how Wall Street orchestrated the greatest theft in history — the robbery of Americans’ prosperity, savings, and retirement security. This is American economic history made very understandable. It should be required viewing for everyone. If you agree, pass the link along.
- Posted by ParadigmShifterI recommend Joseph Stiglitz as Treasury Secretary, the US Economist at Columbia University, who once was with Council of Economic Advisors and the World Bank, and has strong records of stating policies which are effective, fair and just.
Here is one of his latest article http://www.scribd.com/doc/11531320/The-E conomic-Crisis-by-Joe-Stilglitz
- Posted by rightandfairWhat about Joseph Stiglitz?
- Posted by PwlMI think that’s the man who really should be part of the economic team. Not necessarily as a Treas. Sec. but he could take Larry Summers position. Currently Obama’s economic team are all from one school of thought. He would be a great counterbalance to Geithner’s free market fundamentalism. Yes, lets not forget that Summers, Geithner and Rubin laid fundation for this crisis by dismantling Glass-Steagall act in the late 90s.
@John
They also taught me at that school the fundamental principle of American democracy. Don’t trust government. So yes I overweight the individual preference to not be beholden to government waste and knee-jerk policy which serves special interest more than public well-being. The depression economics Krugman proposes do not address the real issues which create the depression, they merely push off the effets to the next genereation(s), and in the mean time grow the government beyond the control of the people who are the Owners.
- Posted by CommonSenseI understand you want healthcare, regulations and such but we are not economically sound enough to handle all that now and expand government. What happens when China and other creditors balk on our treasuries as payment for the interest on our outstanding debt? Don’t answer yet, we’ll pick this up in the tent city.
Either Dr. Krugman or Dr. Roubini would go well in my book. They would at least shutdown financial institutions that were too big or a systematic risk. Currently we are setting a precedent that says as long as you make the crisis big enough to be able to harm everyone, we are here to back you up with taxpayers money. If this is how the crisis ends, then I am sorry to say that this will happen again and it even might be much worse depending on how our current situation plays out and that is still very uncertain.
- Posted by Bank REOAs long as the crooks in Washington and Wall Street are allowed to run this country, nothing will change. Keep in mind the final solution which is being sought for by world powers. A single global currency and a one world government. The global meltdown is necessary to accomplish this goal. This is a planned depression.
- Posted by jeffroIt’s time for a new way of thinking about our Financial Crisis and I think Paul Krugman, Robert Kuttner, and Joseph Stiglitz have been right more often than the Geithner/Summers combination. Paul Krugman would make a wonderful Secretary of Treasury and for once we would have a department that puts the needs of the general citizen ahead of Wall Street and the big bankers!
- Posted by LauraAmyone who believes in Krugman is a fool, simply put. Keynesian economics do not work. The idea is that you print money to pay for all the things you need to be prosperous. This is the basis of the New Deal. Go into debt in order to get out of the crisis at hand. What happens though is that with every dollar you print you make those already in circulation worth that much less. This is called inflation and effects generation after generation until it is corrected. Ever wonder why your parents could go to a movie for 25 cents 40 years ago? Once the printing press of money gets too impactful on prices you need to resort to Plan B…find foreign creditors. Foreign creditors buy your debt assuming you will be successful and will be “good for it”. But the US no longer produces anything of enough worth to pay for the debts we racked up. We buy everything from our creditor and as payment give them more debt. Or print more dollars…more inflation. Krugman advocates going deeper in debt to put the plans in place which supposedly will help us create capital, reform healthcare, switch to alt energy, re-focus education to science & math. All things we need to do certainly in order to be prosperous. What he doesn’t take into account is the fact that China and other foreign creditors are better off funding their own progress than ours. Granted I can’t understand why they chastise Obama’s budget but still fund it by buying more debt. I think eventually they will wise up and invest in themselves rather that the US economy which is for all intents and purposes a lost cause. American Exceptionalism seems to be present not only in the US but other countries as well, but unless we give reason to support that belief, i.e., a strong rebound, than that will fade. My final question, how do we rebound without a viable, profitable industry to invest in?
- Posted by CommonSenseSo we as taxpayers (investors) will be asked to give more to fund the dying economy which produces less than needed and persists on credit. The US economy is basically the same as Madoff’s investment firm with the ability to print money to cover the losses.
we need less old blood and more public servants who can actually walk and chew gum at the same time. Krugman has too much ego; not team player material. antithesis of how obama operates. I feel for Geithner. I think he’s genuinely shocked by how far and wide the rot reaches into and out of our financial and other institutions.
- Posted by Tara