Comments on: The State of the Union and the end of persuasion http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2013/02/13/the-state-of-the-union-and-the-end-of-persuasion/ Tue, 30 Sep 2014 12:44:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: usagadfly http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2013/02/13/the-state-of-the-union-and-the-end-of-persuasion/#comment-122 Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:31:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=85#comment-122 The purpose of an electoral system is to be responsive to the people who vote. It is not to be quasi-religious, to listen to some “prophet” who has been communing with divinity via some channel like a “burning bush”. The world has been overrun by “visionaries” leading forced “conversions” to “true belief”, masquerading as “persuasion”. While principles are important and impressive, I much, much prefer a politician who is responsive to the voters.

This planet has had enough “Holy Wars”. If you want one, please stay away from me and get your hands out of my pockets. And keep your foot off my neck!

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By: jwws9999 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2013/02/13/the-state-of-the-union-and-the-end-of-persuasion/#comment-121 Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:51:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=85#comment-121 they’ve been raising the minimum wage periodically for the last 50 years, if it were up to this guy, everyone would be making a dollar an hour and we’d be mexico. he goes on to use a bunch of big words and flowery language to make his point without backing it up with any numbers or studies. just another internet economist who’s wrong 99 percent of the time

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By: OneOfTheSheep http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2013/02/13/the-state-of-the-union-and-the-end-of-persuasion/#comment-120 Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:56:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=85#comment-120 Well Mark, it’s 8pm Friday, some TWO DAYS since this piece went up.

I guess YOU don’t “welcome comments” quite as much as most on Reuters, considering your opinion remains without acknowledged comments or challenge. In my opinion, that effectively eliminates the usual interplay between respondents that “advances the story”.

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By: tmc http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2013/02/13/the-state-of-the-union-and-the-end-of-persuasion/#comment-119 Fri, 15 Feb 2013 13:16:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=85#comment-119 Awesome article

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By: Benny27 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2013/02/13/the-state-of-the-union-and-the-end-of-persuasion/#comment-118 Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:18:35 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=85#comment-118 You have the assumption backwards.

As Ghandi apparently said, politics is NOT about convincing people to change their minds, but rather it is to get them to act on what they ALREADY know to be right.

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By: stevedebi http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2013/02/13/the-state-of-the-union-and-the-end-of-persuasion/#comment-117 Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:32:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=85#comment-117 Obama is not a leader, he is a manager. A true leader would be able to take the country in a coherent direction, not attempt to manipulate the public. I consider this President to be divisive instead of cohesive, which may win an election or two, but will eventually catch up to the person. Obama may be termed out of office by then, but the cost to the country will be felt for many years.

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By: tmc http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2013/02/13/the-state-of-the-union-and-the-end-of-persuasion/#comment-116 Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:12:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=85#comment-116 Working in the high tech industry, I can see that “Big Data” has a long way to grow yet too. Its power is far beyond what people are being lead to believe. As it is still in its infancy, it has yet to be noticed by authority or government. I think that’s why president Obama and other small groups have been able to use it effectively. You see, global corporations were the first to really understand the power of Big Data and how to use it. Political entities will have a much harder time getting the benefits of it as industry has a slightly different view on how it should be used, and is truly in control of it.
Information is power and influence. The scale of that statement jumped exponentially in the last fifty years. It is also poised to jump exponentially again well within the next fifty.
The power of Big data is already being leveraged to mature itself even faster. Though just a blip in time, I think it will be a sad day when surveillance devices are put directly into the average home. This is pretty much already complete with personnel devices, but the data is fragmented, to limited to “public” time. So it is not fully effective yet. That is being remedied quickly though as we can see by the announcements from Intel. Soon, virtually all electronic device will be contributors to the Big Data analysis buckets.
It will be interesting to see how the data is used in the global political arena.
A colleague of mine and I we discussing that the field of phycology has been hijacked. Psychological testing is now done by industry marketing, with almost immediate results. We can now run “what-if” scenarios with subsets of real market segments and gain actual immediate results. Major marketing campaigns are commonly adjusted as they are rolled out now. Much better “ROI”.
I hope the Chinese use this power in better ways than letting unfettered capitalism have it.

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By: tmc http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2013/02/13/the-state-of-the-union-and-the-end-of-persuasion/#comment-115 Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:09:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=85#comment-115 Awesome opinion piece!

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By: OneOfTheSheep http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2013/02/13/the-state-of-the-union-and-the-end-of-persuasion/#comment-114 Thu, 14 Feb 2013 01:22:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=85#comment-114 “…this new kind of politics has “expelled ideas and visions from politics and reduced electoral campaigns to…distraction…and simulating real political change while ultimately retaining the status-quo.” “The net result…is…that the citizen has been…listened to…and..manipulated…”.

OK, so no more “ideas whose time has come”. Please. Watch not what they say, but what they do (or don’t do). Only one problem.

“We, the people” were given a choice of bad” or “worse” politicians, a majority of whom are proving to be traitors to the “American way of life” solely responsible for the relative plenty of our lives today. These jokers won’t enforce our laws and deport the 11+ million (and growing) illegal fence jumpers that stand ready, together with their legions of children to BURY US as the Soviet Union threatened but was unable to do.

If what they DO results in the ultimate failure of an economy that is increasingly a “nation” of TAKERS instead of productive workers, America is a lost cause. The “messy seams” of such process is more like Frankstein’s assembly, utterly lacking in “beauty” or “elegance” however mechanical.

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