Comments on: Protests in France are more than a battle over culture http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2013/04/22/protests-in-france-are-more-than-a-battle-over-culture/ Tue, 30 Sep 2014 12:44:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: shylap http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2013/04/22/protests-in-france-are-more-than-a-battle-over-culture/#comment-179 Tue, 18 Jun 2013 04:11:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=103#comment-179 Well you got me spinning, Doctor!

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By: Kiljoy616 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2013/04/22/protests-in-france-are-more-than-a-battle-over-culture/#comment-163 Thu, 02 May 2013 12:32:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=103#comment-163 France and religion really what are these children thinking. Waste of time and energy, or did France not get rid of their monarchs and priest long ago. Yes like most of the mindless drones of religion these people are as big looser as the ones here in the states.

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By: maire83 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2013/04/22/protests-in-france-are-more-than-a-battle-over-culture/#comment-154 Mon, 29 Apr 2013 21:25:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=103#comment-154 “The fact that the generation of the financial crisis is being politicized by sexual politics shows how little hope they have of controlling economic decision-making.”

Really, Mr. Leonard? Thousands of French youth have nothing better to do than put themselves out there against riot police only to be written off as “hatemongers” and “bigots.” Oh yeah, no wonder it’s such a popular cause. If the anti-gay marriage protests are mere escapism because they distract from fiscal matters, the very same logic should apply to the pro-gay marriage camp, which appears every bit as “escapist” to those whose primary concerns are economic. As in, ‘why are some people spending so much energy affirming what two consenting adults do while the economy burns to the ground?’ Yet something tells me not to expect such even-handedness from you.

The level of contortion and spin in this piece is only impressive for how bad it is. We’re supposed to believe that these protests about boredom and discontent. We’re just supposed to take your word for it, apparently, because aside from a paltry closing statement you make no case for this whatsoever. In fact you end up making the case you don’t want to, which is that these protests really are about generational angst and backlash against a sexual libertinism that is apparently much more hated in France than is generally acknowledged.

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By: maire83 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2013/04/22/protests-in-france-are-more-than-a-battle-over-culture/#comment-153 Mon, 29 Apr 2013 21:25:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=103#comment-153 “The fact that the generation of the financial crisis is being politicized by sexual politics shows how little hope they have of controlling economic decision-making.”

Really, Mr. Leonard? Thousands of French youth have nothing better to do than put themselves out there against riot police only to be written off as “hatemongers” and “bigots.” Oh yeah, no wonder it’s such a popular cause. If the anti-gay marriage protests are mere escapism because they distract from fiscal matters, the very same logic should apply to the pro-gay marriage camp, which appears every bit as “escapist” to those whose primary concerns are economic. As in, ‘why are some people spending so much energy affirming what two consenting adults do while the economy burns to the ground?’ Yet something tells me not to expect such even-handedness from you.

The level of contortion and spin in this piece is only impressive for how bad it is. We’re supposed to believe that these protests about boredom and discontent. We’re just supposed to take your word for it, apparently, because aside from a paltry closing statement you make no case for this whatsoever. In fact you end up making the case you don’t want to, which is that these protests really are about generational angst and backlash against a sexual libertinism that is apparently much more hated in France than is generally acknowledged.

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By: eyeoftaurus http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2013/04/22/protests-in-france-are-more-than-a-battle-over-culture/#comment-148 Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:48:26 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=103#comment-148 “The paradox of the current demonstrations against gay marriage is that the law, if passed, is not intended to have the effects that the demonstrators say they are worried about.”

Same as everywhere the right-wing fueled by either Catholic Church, Mormons or Fundamentalist Christians pick your poison. Organized religion in its last death throws.

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By: citizen033 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2013/04/22/protests-in-france-are-more-than-a-battle-over-culture/#comment-147 Mon, 22 Apr 2013 19:05:14 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=103#comment-147 “The law is designed to rein in sexual liberation by making available the institutions of heterosexual bourgeois monogamy to the gay community.”

This is a preposterous idea that must have come from a supporter of the proposed law trying to spin it for those disenchanted by it.

It’s like claiming that by making “cigarettes” a group on a food pyramid (after all many people still smoke), more regulations will control smokers.

Officially institutionalizing anything by enshrining it in law inherently elevates and incorporates it into a culture in a way that its de facto existence does not.

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