Comments on: Seven reasons why the Arab uprisings are eclipsing western values http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2014/01/21/seven-reasons-why-the-arab-uprisings-are-eclipsing-western-values/ Tue, 30 Sep 2014 12:44:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: EconCassandra http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2014/01/21/seven-reasons-why-the-arab-uprisings-are-eclipsing-western-values/#comment-338 Wed, 29 Jan 2014 17:32:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=175#comment-338 “Western values” is an oxymoron.

Our “values” are based on the principle of “Manifest Destiny”, which is a totally racist philosophy not much different than Hitler’s White Supremacy ideas.

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By: AZreb http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2014/01/21/seven-reasons-why-the-arab-uprisings-are-eclipsing-western-values/#comment-337 Tue, 28 Jan 2014 14:21:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=175#comment-337 Could it also be that the West is becoming so lenient in allowing Islam in the various countries? We keep hearing the mantra of “Islam is a peaceful religion” – really? Sunni against Shia – and both are Islamic.

We allow the female members to wear their burkas – we allow mosques to be built and do not know if they are preaching peace or terrorism – could we be going too far in our “inclusiveness”?

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By: KyleDexter http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2014/01/21/seven-reasons-why-the-arab-uprisings-are-eclipsing-western-values/#comment-336 Mon, 27 Jan 2014 14:09:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=175#comment-336 Good article

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By: chyron http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2014/01/21/seven-reasons-why-the-arab-uprisings-are-eclipsing-western-values/#comment-335 Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:02:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=175#comment-335 @VultureTX
While Islam do have ‘submissive’ notes – like all the rest of major religions (even jews and protestants, it’s just interpretations that differ ), real problem is that these regions conserved older types of societies until modern times.
I mean – mindset of their older generations and poor is tribal, with number of harsh ‘rules’ and ‘laws’ which are mistaken by westerners as ‘muslim’ really having no relation to Q’aran or Prophet but to tribal customs.

Look how fast asian exUSSR republics turned to that state from soviet formal democracy.

Current democracy can only arise by itself in a relatively prosperous society which is already more or less equal (like Revolution-era USA which had no super-rich or ‘dynasties’ yet or Republican France where they killed off most of nobility – and then new nobility was failing again and again).

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By: VultureTX http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2014/01/21/seven-reasons-why-the-arab-uprisings-are-eclipsing-western-values/#comment-334 Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:44:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=175#comment-334 CDN_REBEL
actually you are correct, Iraq was the strting point for all this (the uprisings); and that was our point. To show that arab dictatorships were wrong and that democracy was an option. Unfortunately Islam does not support a democratic mindset, since a central theme is submission. The whole arab face/shame culture does not help for since it replaces western guilt/innoncence; so democratic justice is also mostly unreachable..

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By: CDN_Rebel http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2014/01/21/seven-reasons-why-the-arab-uprisings-are-eclipsing-western-values/#comment-333 Fri, 24 Jan 2014 05:52:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=175#comment-333 What a fatuous article. Equating the civil war within Islam with a rejection of Western values is profoundly dense. After any long length of time under an oppressive regime a (nearly) equally long period of violent outbursts from the people is due – their shame of being so dominated forcing them to lash out. The West has done well to mainly stay out of these conflicts (except Iraq, which arguably set this whole thing off in the first place).

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By: brotherkenny4 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2014/01/21/seven-reasons-why-the-arab-uprisings-are-eclipsing-western-values/#comment-332 Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:11:54 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=175#comment-332 “western liberal values” don’t exist in the US. We have what really should be described as corporate socialism. That’s where everyone works for the benefit of the corporations. We see the facist aspect of this growing too, as both democrats and republicans continue to take away what were once considered innate freedoms of american citizens. This is what the fearmongering is about. Maybe Iceland has western liberal values, but not the US. We’re corporate socialist on our way to corporate facism, because the scary terrorists are coming to get us.

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By: COindependent http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2014/01/21/seven-reasons-why-the-arab-uprisings-are-eclipsing-western-values/#comment-331 Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:07:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=175#comment-331 The Arab interpretation of freedom is very different than that of western democracies, especially when it comes to the influence imposed by their theology.

Their post-colonial actions always seem to include the need to dominate (or kill) those of a different religion or sect.

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By: SLOjohnny http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2014/01/21/seven-reasons-why-the-arab-uprisings-are-eclipsing-western-values/#comment-330 Thu, 23 Jan 2014 03:58:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=175#comment-330 Pollyanna had a better sense of reality than does the author. The complex multitude of social conflicts across the region will generate continual instability throughout society that were suppressed by Ottoman occupation and European colonialism. The conflicts have now burst forth, triggered by resentment and desperation. Entirely new political, economic, and social institutions will have to be devised. These circumstances will persist for several generations.

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By: dd606 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2014/01/21/seven-reasons-why-the-arab-uprisings-are-eclipsing-western-values/#comment-329 Wed, 22 Jan 2014 23:13:56 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=175#comment-329 The uprisings are akin to teenagers complaining that they don’t have enough freedom, and rebelling against ‘the man’. They’re rebelling for the sake of rebelling… It’s not based on logic or any real plan. The problem with being given more freedom, is that you have more chance to screw everything up. And just like teenagers crashing the car after begging for the keys, the adults always end up cleaning up the mess. The end of imperialism proved that giving some people more freedom, is often a disaster. Sticking your arm in the air and waving flags, is the easy part.

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