Comments on: Why Scotland looks like the canary in the independence coal mine http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2014/09/16/why-scotland-looks-like-the-canary-in-the-independence-coalmine/ Tue, 30 Sep 2014 12:44:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: GarrettF http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2014/09/16/why-scotland-looks-like-the-canary-in-the-independence-coalmine/#comment-492 Thu, 18 Sep 2014 07:48:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=275#comment-492 “Scotland’s drive to independence has been interpreted by many as a throwback to ancient identity politics” Ha!!!

People have been fighting for freedom from despots bent on conquering the worlds people since ancient times, would be more accurate.

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By: PaulKJohnson http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2014/09/16/why-scotland-looks-like-the-canary-in-the-independence-coalmine/#comment-489 Thu, 18 Sep 2014 01:05:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=275#comment-489 “Whatever the result of this week’s vote, I fear we will find that across the world, where people once celebrated their ties to one another, they will increasingly dream of independence.”

The global paradigm is interdependence. As soon as you understand the notion of an import and an export – which is, of course, easily explainable to a four-year-old – then the idea of a standalone, autonomous economy seems instantly ludicrous.

If we seek to present a positive vision of the UK in future, I propose connection and prosperity without implicit deference; instead in an atmosphere of conciliation and mutual respect.

Scotland cannot afford, as a small nation, to be insular and isolated. The mindset of the independence movement will turn the UK’s gaze outward rather than its own self-contained doorstep-internationalism.

England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland will emerge blinking into the international community, replacing the notion of ‘foreigners’ with the term ‘people’. It will be amazing how many more people around the world will be pleased to see us as a result.

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By: MichaelHill http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2014/09/16/why-scotland-looks-like-the-canary-in-the-independence-coalmine/#comment-488 Wed, 17 Sep 2014 20:38:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=275#comment-488 Nationalism is on the rise worldwide as a counterweight to the globalism of the elites. We Southern nationalists wish the “Yes” forces in Scotland all the best. Check us out at www.leagueofthesouth.com

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By: hopefulmonster http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2014/09/16/why-scotland-looks-like-the-canary-in-the-independence-coalmine/#comment-487 Wed, 17 Sep 2014 19:38:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=275#comment-487 Mark, you seem not to have understood the campaign at all. Indeed you paint the campaign in the very terms that you describe as outmoded in your first sentence. The Yes campaign is not cynically “tapping into” and “rebranding” with what you call progressive clothing. The Yes campaign is a grass roots movement that wants a fairer and more representative democracy, while the No campaign has focused mostly on economic challenges. The only nationalism on show comes from you and others in the media, in the form of British nationalism – to their great credit, neither the grassroots No or Yes campaigners have pursued these dead ends. Thank goodness for the internet and the ongoing demise of biased, out-of-touch and anti-democratic voices such as yours.

Whatever the outcome tomorrow, the only certainty is that the mainstream UK media will be a force of divisiveness and discord.

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By: thorpy63 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2014/09/16/why-scotland-looks-like-the-canary-in-the-independence-coalmine/#comment-486 Wed, 17 Sep 2014 18:31:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=275#comment-486 You forget about the absurd Labour governments we have had to put up with thanks to votes from the Cuckoo’s in Scotland. Now with luck we will all get what we want & some peace to boot!

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By: MayaMcNicoll http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2014/09/16/why-scotland-looks-like-the-canary-in-the-independence-coalmine/#comment-485 Wed, 17 Sep 2014 17:33:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=275#comment-485 That photograph you used of a “pro-Union rally” is nothing of the sort. That’s an Orange Walk. And there’s a world of difference.

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By: Chomp http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2014/09/16/why-scotland-looks-like-the-canary-in-the-independence-coalmine/#comment-484 Wed, 17 Sep 2014 15:34:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=275#comment-484 If by progressive – they mean Liberal – then buyer beware.
Liberalism Always Fails!

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By: Neurochuck http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2014/09/16/why-scotland-looks-like-the-canary-in-the-independence-coalmine/#comment-483 Wed, 17 Sep 2014 15:11:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=275#comment-483 In a way independence for Scotland seems to continue the rise of historical/ethnic/cultural nation states after the mutual destruction of the European empires by WW 1 and the failure of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union to impose a new order.
Scotland can catch up with Ireland, Iceland, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Finland, Czech, Slovakia, Hungary, Serbia, Croatia, etc; with limited concessions of sovereignty to the EU and NATO.
Not so new a trend, or radical.

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By: LeslieGraham http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2014/09/16/why-scotland-looks-like-the-canary-in-the-independence-coalmine/#comment-482 Wed, 17 Sep 2014 14:05:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=275#comment-482 It’s not about the money.
And the block grant system is misleading anyway – Scotland’s GDP per capita is 15% higher than that of the UK as a whole.
Scotland is the 14th richest country in the world whilst the UK as a whole ranks 18th.
Scotland contributes far more to the UK coffers than she receives via the Barnet Formula.
But who cares. ITS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY!
It’s about getting the style of government WE vote for rather than the style of government the population of a foreign country apoints for us.

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By: DRCrowder http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/2014/09/16/why-scotland-looks-like-the-canary-in-the-independence-coalmine/#comment-476 Tue, 16 Sep 2014 22:46:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mark-leonard/?p=275#comment-476 That is a satire site like the onion… Cameron did NOT say that.

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