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	<title>Comments on: Crunching the New York Times numbers</title>
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		<title>By: Ila</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2008/11/21/crunching-the-new-york-times-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-353924</link>
		<dc:creator>Ila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 05:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rule #1 in the newspaper business:  FIRST, have something to sell.  Nobody wants to pay for advertising when there&#039;s no circulation.   Why do you think Rupert Murdoch is rich?  Tear the thing apart, write some stories, and beef up circulation. You don&#039;t have to BE Rupert Murdoch; just don&#039;t be what everyone else is selling. Then go after someone other than Van Cleef and Arpels, Blue Cross, and car dealers as advertisers.  There are lots of businesses out there.  You&#039;re WELCOME!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rule #1 in the newspaper business:  FIRST, have something to sell.  Nobody wants to pay for advertising when there&#8217;s no circulation.   Why do you think Rupert Murdoch is rich?  Tear the thing apart, write some stories, and beef up circulation. You don&#8217;t have to BE Rupert Murdoch; just don&#8217;t be what everyone else is selling. Then go after someone other than Van Cleef and Arpels, Blue Cross, and car dealers as advertisers.  There are lots of businesses out there.  You&#8217;re WELCOME!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2008/11/21/crunching-the-new-york-times-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-353919</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 00:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When saying the share price two years ago was $49, it would have been helpful to let us know the current share price for comparison purposes (if we didn&#039;t know the cost of the Sunday or daily paper offhand). For what it&#039;s worth (not very much), it closed on $5.34 on Friday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When saying the share price two years ago was $49, it would have been helpful to let us know the current share price for comparison purposes (if we didn&#8217;t know the cost of the Sunday or daily paper offhand). For what it&#8217;s worth (not very much), it closed on $5.34 on Friday.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 22:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, as the owner of a company who has advertised in the NYTs in the past, but choses to advertise elsewhere now, the death or bankrupcy of the Times causes me no pain. I never felt like I received the value I should have given the cost of the ad. 

At one time, I suppose, it was hip to advertise in the Times, but most people who buy my products don&#039;t read or subscribe to the Times, and frankly, don&#039;t like it&#039;s editorial policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, as the owner of a company who has advertised in the NYTs in the past, but choses to advertise elsewhere now, the death or bankrupcy of the Times causes me no pain. I never felt like I received the value I should have given the cost of the ad. </p>
<p>At one time, I suppose, it was hip to advertise in the Times, but most people who buy my products don&#8217;t read or subscribe to the Times, and frankly, don&#8217;t like it&#8217;s editorial policies.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert MacMillan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2008/11/21/crunching-the-new-york-times-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-353912</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert MacMillan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 20:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Joshua, I&#039;m painfully aware of the ad revenue situation being meaningful -- and the debt and the circulation revenue that&#039;s going up with price increases (not copies sold) and a host of other things.
Yes, I wrote it backward. I will fix it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Joshua, I&#8217;m painfully aware of the ad revenue situation being meaningful &#8212; and the debt and the circulation revenue that&#8217;s going up with price increases (not copies sold) and a host of other things.<br />
Yes, I wrote it backward. I will fix it.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;# The ratio of the cover price of the Sunday edition of the Times to the share price is under 2:1.
# The ratio of the daily cover price to the share price is under 5:1.&quot;

First of all, this is extremely sloppy -- you&#039;ve got your ratios backward.

Second, it&#039;s meaningless - ad revenue is the big issue, not newsstand sales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;# The ratio of the cover price of the Sunday edition of the Times to the share price is under 2:1.<br />
# The ratio of the daily cover price to the share price is under 5:1.&#8221;</p>
<p>First of all, this is extremely sloppy &#8212; you&#8217;ve got your ratios backward.</p>
<p>Second, it&#8217;s meaningless &#8211; ad revenue is the big issue, not newsstand sales.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What conspiracy, Bill? It&#039;s just thinking out loud. I&#039;ll cop to dimwitted. I&#039;m a reporter, not the guy who&#039;s going to solve the NYT&#039;s problems. If you have some thoughts, why not share them here? Or, if they&#039;re realistic, just go tell the Times. I&#039;m sure they pay consultants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What conspiracy, Bill? It&#8217;s just thinking out loud. I&#8217;ll cop to dimwitted. I&#8217;m a reporter, not the guy who&#8217;s going to solve the NYT&#8217;s problems. If you have some thoughts, why not share them here? Or, if they&#8217;re realistic, just go tell the Times. I&#8217;m sure they pay consultants.</p>
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		<title>By: Newt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Newt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What?? You mean the NYT isn&#039;t a candidate for bailout $? Maybe on 1/21/09 they will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What?? You mean the NYT isn&#8217;t a candidate for bailout $? Maybe on 1/21/09 they will be.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldnt call that &quot;informed analysis&quot;, just dimwitted conspiracy theories. NYT is barely cashflow profitable after interest. Over the past year they have increased borrowings to pay the dividend - no way at all they can keep doing that. $450m of the debt is current and if they are to roll any of that they have to cut the dividend - further measures will also be required.
 Sulzberger might, just possibly, want to take it private, but to do so he would need to find at least $400m to pay debt down to a level compatible with curent cashflows</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldnt call that &#8220;informed analysis&#8221;, just dimwitted conspiracy theories. NYT is barely cashflow profitable after interest. Over the past year they have increased borrowings to pay the dividend &#8211; no way at all they can keep doing that. $450m of the debt is current and if they are to roll any of that they have to cut the dividend &#8211; further measures will also be required.<br />
 Sulzberger might, just possibly, want to take it private, but to do so he would need to find at least $400m to pay debt down to a level compatible with curent cashflows</p>
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		<title>By: m goode</title>
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		<dc:creator>m goode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you guys should do a mobile reader application so people can get the newspaper straight to their mobile phone for the same price as an actual newspaper. It would be especially cool on a phone like the Motorola Krave, because it has a HUGE crystal clear touch screen display with T9 predictive text/digital qwerty keyboard. You can check out the full specs online at Motorola.com/krave. Ive been a huge fan of this phone ever since I started working with Motorola. It&#039;s incredible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you guys should do a mobile reader application so people can get the newspaper straight to their mobile phone for the same price as an actual newspaper. It would be especially cool on a phone like the Motorola Krave, because it has a HUGE crystal clear touch screen display with T9 predictive text/digital qwerty keyboard. You can check out the full specs online at Motorola.com/krave. Ive been a huge fan of this phone ever since I started working with Motorola. It&#8217;s incredible.</p>
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