Comments on: The water’s fine, but maybe don’t come in http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2011/04/18/waters-fine-dont-come-in/ Where media and technology meet Wed, 16 Nov 2016 08:48:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: johncabell http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2011/04/18/waters-fine-dont-come-in/#comment-387962 Thu, 21 Apr 2011 01:27:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/?p=25313#comment-387962 @PapaDisco On that we are in complete agreement. Though I am a strong believer that standards can be maintained even by conscientious amateurs working alone.

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By: PapaDisco http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2011/04/18/waters-fine-dont-come-in/#comment-387952 Wed, 20 Apr 2011 14:10:01 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/?p=25313#comment-387952 JAC Good point, that about haste. My second paragraph (rant?), btw 😉 was not directed at you.

I think the net-surfing speed and superficiality with which we all do our tasks today is a cursed gift of the internet age. ‘New York Minute?’ It’s a weak sister compared to internet time.

And my take on the old school need for editors/gatekeepers isn’t so much that THEY enforced standards, but that their very existence, and the pause that was inserted in the process, made us all elevate to a higher standard, or at least stop and read our work critically. I see so many smart people make so many errors of grammar, presentation and judgement simply because we’re moving so fast and there’s no way un-send. There used to be several days and many visits to the typing pool between you and the presentation to the client. Not so anymore.

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By: John C Abell http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2011/04/18/waters-fine-dont-come-in/#comment-387949 Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:32:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/?p=25313#comment-387949 @pjmcleod If that’s a knock of me, what generation do you think I am?

I don’t know what generation you are, but I am old enough to know that insulting the musings of kids is a recurring generational theme, and always amusingly unprescient. Every generation creates enduring content. OK, maybe not disco …

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By: John C Abell http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2011/04/18/waters-fine-dont-come-in/#comment-387948 Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:26:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/?p=25313#comment-387948 @PapaDisco nice catch. I’ll mention it to my editor.

You’re correct, of course, that lack of oversight is an issue. But haste is also a culprit, as anyone who’s ever worked at a place with constant deadlines will tell you, no matter how deep and mature the shop’s editing hierarchy.

I wouldn’t want to leave you with the impression that I thought the old days were good because there were gatekeepers. I frankly used to believe that, but it’s not a sustainable argument — as well as being academic.

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By: doctorjay317 http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2011/04/18/waters-fine-dont-come-in/#comment-387942 Wed, 20 Apr 2011 02:28:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/?p=25313#comment-387942 The world is definitely wasting too much time on mindless chores becasue it’s the “in” thing to do. Queueing up for the latest gadgets only upgrades the gadget, not you. The time and money spent could have been used for something more productive and educational. The guy with the better phone doesn’t necessarily make better choices or more money. And I would bet anything 90% or more of the stuff you read or write on Facebook is garbage. Your time is more precious than stupid “facebooking”.

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By: FISH76 http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2011/04/18/waters-fine-dont-come-in/#comment-387937 Tue, 19 Apr 2011 18:24:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/?p=25313#comment-387937 There needs to be more civility and thought on the internet, and less spouting about what people believe are true. I have no problem with someone disagreeing with me, but throwing civility and common sense out the window for the sake of “honesty” is garbage.

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By: pjmcleod http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2011/04/18/waters-fine-dont-come-in/#comment-387936 Tue, 19 Apr 2011 16:45:03 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/?p=25313#comment-387936 What a bunch of narcissistic claptrap – get over yourself – what a generation that thinks their musings are of such import.

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By: PapaDisco http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2011/04/18/waters-fine-dont-come-in/#comment-387934 Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:56:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/?p=25313#comment-387934 It’s making you a worse writer. Witness: “and that its unrelenting creation of new content makes me to dive right in rather than sit poolside for a while.”

The instant access to global distribution also comes with no editors and no standards. When a newspaper was an important (and expensive) thing to produce, editors stood guard against mindless drivel, because it was too expensive to waste space on the average joe’s ramblings. Not so with the Internets. Any idiot can hold forth (and post comments). In addition to reducing our attention spans, Social Media has reduced our standards.

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