Comments on: The godfathers of Steve Jobs’s genius http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2011/10/10/the-godfathers-of-steve-jobss-genius/ Where media and technology meet Wed, 16 Nov 2016 08:48:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: ArmstrongAdam http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2011/10/10/the-godfathers-of-steve-jobss-genius/#comment-390654 Fri, 21 Oct 2011 11:04:35 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/?p=30141#comment-390654 While I am awed and inspired by Steve Jobs achievements, this article is completely out of order in its belittling the achievements of others, and outright misrepresentation of the truth. For example, regarding Alexander Graham Bell we are told “He did nothing more after the marvelous moment on the evening of March, 10, 1876″, which ignores things like patenting the telephone, and starting the Bell Telephone company. I wouldn’t call that “doing nothing more”.

Adam

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By: NotSubjectTo http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2011/10/10/the-godfathers-of-steve-jobss-genius/#comment-390622 Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:06:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/?p=30141#comment-390622 Re ‘What must I do to earn the obligatory “Sir” in front of my name’ …

You must agree to become property of the Queen. Coincidentally, it is obligatory to use the “Sir” in addressing this man only if you too are property of the Queen.

Names are attributes of property that are specified by owners of that property for the convenience of their owners.

However, more technically since this is a bankrupt world, in the foregoing, substitute “secured party creditor” in place of “owner”, and substitute “debtor” for “property”.

In “polite” society, the appellation “Sir” may be used upon this man to open a channel of communication and he is obligated to respond, lest he be deemed not a gentleman.

LOL

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By: paintcan http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2011/10/10/the-godfathers-of-steve-jobss-genius/#comment-390603 Fri, 14 Oct 2011 20:16:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/?p=30141#comment-390603 I want to make a little correction. Sir Evans: You would not have worn a coronet and are not a duke. You are a Knight and there is no equivalent in the US. Britain canonized you in a sense. No one is going to canonize Mt.Jobs. In as little as a few more years, he may not be of interest to anyone but scholarly archaeologists of technological development.

I don’t think Mrs. Astor and her crowd would have been as delighted with your title. They were very fond of the real estate of Dukes. But her educated offspring would have been able to appreciate merit. I like to think so anyway.

As for genius talk – I read years ago that the label “Genius” was most widely used during the later renaissance period to flatter notable artists and scientific figures. It was helpful to an absolutist lord to be surrounded by luminaries.

In the ancient period the Romans invented the idea of genius to mean the innate spirit of a person, their inner guiding light or their “soul” or what ever it was in a person that is somehow undefinable and even “divine” that drives them to do great things. Today they might call it “self actualizing” or Jung would have called it “Individuation”.

But in a world of genius the title is getting shop worn. And the world is giving birth to so many super-sized people while simultaneously making hundreds of millions of inconvenient and expensive little people, that it may not be too wise to flatter the big ones too much. It might bring out their inner Nero or Caligula?

It doesn’t matter what genius claims it knows. It matters much more what everyone else knows. But it sounds like Mr. Jobs knew that.

A cat can knock a pretty ornament off a Christmas tree.

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By: cping500 http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2011/10/10/the-godfathers-of-steve-jobss-genius/#comment-390576 Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:56:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/?p=30141#comment-390576 We know that the ‘desktop’ came from Xerox, and Word and Excel from Microsoft, Pagemaker from Adobe.etc. The use of RISC processors had their origin in UK’s ‘Archimedes’and were designed by UK’s AIM. And we know that Essex UK (and Newcastle)’s boy Jon Ives took his admiration of Braun’s designers to Apple to do the sleek stuff.

It was the ‘genius’ of Jobs to take take people and ideas into Apple to be ‘different’ and for the most part to make them work. His was the genius of a very superior “bricoleur”.

But who are the software engineers behind the operating systems? (developed when Jobs was in exile at NEXT.)

And who are the hardware engineers?

Who created the iTunes business model?

Who contributed the bits and pieces assembled to make Apple

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By: Ian_Kemmish http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2011/10/10/the-godfathers-of-steve-jobss-genius/#comment-390575 Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:22:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/?p=30141#comment-390575 I think Louis B Meyer deserves an honourable mention, too. A salesman and showman who could recognise technical talent in others and intimidate them into signing contracts which a sober man never would, while at the same time determining and defining public taste by the simple expedient of never over-estimating it.

Though there is a pleasing symmetry in Jobs’ career, both starting and ending it with devices intended to make free phone calls at the carriers’ expense….

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By: paintcan http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2011/10/10/the-godfathers-of-steve-jobss-genius/#comment-390573 Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:49:54 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/?p=30141#comment-390573 On another post I was accused of bigotry because I faintly supported questions about a Hong Kong kid’s modified logo. I called it flattery.

The internet has done something that I would never have thought possible. The phrase “knowledge is power” has been replaced by a device and system that replaces knowledge with information and sometimes with information of dubious quality.

I don’t think I’ve ever known the difference. But it is terrifying to live without power. And I’m not at all sure knowledge has the slightest value anymore.

I may not love Steve Jobs – I don’t have one of his devices, but I could easily hate him and the net in spite of the fact that h it has given nobodies like me the chance to speak publicly.

BTW – that whole comment thread and the article were pulled or cannot be reached with the bookmark. That is not something that could be done with the old print media. And I was having a lot of fun.

I haven’t missed the fact that you are a “sir” but still don’t know what to make of them. You aren’t legal here in the US, but an awful lot would probably like them to be. The old Mrs. Astor and her robber baron crowd loved the ground you walked on and the coronets you used the wear.
I don’t tend to like Mrs. Astor but I really enjoyed her furniture. Every time I am unemployed I miss the old snob and her 400 bigots.

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By: jaham http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2011/10/10/the-godfathers-of-steve-jobss-genius/#comment-390572 Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:25:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/?p=30141#comment-390572 What must I do to earn the obligatory “Sir” in front of my name….how awesome.

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By: Vertigo http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2011/10/10/the-godfathers-of-steve-jobss-genius/#comment-390567 Tue, 11 Oct 2011 03:08:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/?p=30141#comment-390567 Kudos to the extreme genius and perseverance of Tom Edison and Edwin Armstrong. However, the godfather in this piece, the villainous movie type, is AT&T. The AT&T that “Steve Jobs chose for his partner” is a job shedding vestige of its original self which possesses all of the worst traits of a bad corporate citizen. AT&T should never be confused with the squeaky clean image so cultivated by Apple, yet Jobs chose AT&T? Please read the Wikipedia article on AT&T, and be sure to scroll down to the section entitled “Criticism and Controversies” for a good backgrounder on AT&T. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT%26T

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