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		<title>By: KimHaden</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/muniland/2012/03/08/puerto-rico-is-americas-greece/comment-page-1/#comment-2223</link>
		<dc:creator>KimHaden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2013 18:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a big difference between states and Puerto Rico that&#039;s going to have an impact on the outcome of this story is that Puerto Rico is in part a cap gains tax haven--you don&#039;t have to pay on stocks if you&#039;re based in Puerto Rico. This wasn&#039;t the case with Greece. You can read more about it here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.puertoricoreport.org/go-to-puerto-rico-to-avoid-tax-on-stock-profits/&quot;&gt;http://www.puertoricoreport.org/go-to-puerto-rico-to-avoid-tax-on-stock-profits/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a big difference between states and Puerto Rico that&#8217;s going to have an impact on the outcome of this story is that Puerto Rico is in part a cap gains tax haven&#8211;you don&#8217;t have to pay on stocks if you&#8217;re based in Puerto Rico. This wasn&#8217;t the case with Greece. You can read more about it here: <a href='http://www.puertoricoreport.org/go-to-puerto-rico-to-avoid-tax-on-stock-profits/'>http://www.puertoricoreport.org/go-to-pu erto-rico-to-avoid-tax-on-stock-profits/</a></p>
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		<title>By: PRleechers</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/muniland/2012/03/08/puerto-rico-is-americas-greece/comment-page-1/#comment-2031</link>
		<dc:creator>PRleechers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 16:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is spot on. Puerto Ricans pay no federal taxes but instead leech off the US government. Most Puerto Ricans receive some kind of assistance whether it is food stamps, disability, or public housing. The true unemployment rate is MUCH higher than 15%, I&#039;m guessing more like 50% if you count people not looking for work. This economy is non-existant if not for the US government money. Nothing worthwhile is produced in PR. The US receives NO benefit from keeping it a US territory. Let&#039;s give it back to the people and watch it become Afghanistan in a few months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is spot on. Puerto Ricans pay no federal taxes but instead leech off the US government. Most Puerto Ricans receive some kind of assistance whether it is food stamps, disability, or public housing. The true unemployment rate is MUCH higher than 15%, I&#8217;m guessing more like 50% if you count people not looking for work. This economy is non-existant if not for the US government money. Nothing worthwhile is produced in PR. The US receives NO benefit from keeping it a US territory. Let&#8217;s give it back to the people and watch it become Afghanistan in a few months.</p>
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		<title>By: GCSchmidt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/muniland/2012/03/08/puerto-rico-is-americas-greece/comment-page-1/#comment-1610</link>
		<dc:creator>GCSchmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 13:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Puerto Rican born and bred, the level of discourse here is embarrassing. In too many cases, the writing level is atrocious and the &quot;facts&quot; are, to say the least, warped through a political prism.  What frosts my perineum is that most of the comments were most likely written by supporters of statehood for Puerto Rico (in witless defense of the current government administration) and by virtue of their hideous spelling (spell-check function, people?) and pathetic grammar of the language they WANT to live in every day in every way, all they do is reinforce the long-held impression of obviously being &quot;not American&quot;.

Not that the average American writes much better, but you know what I mean.

To compound the impression and shove it into the realm of ignorance, the post is about the precarious situation of Puerto Rico&#039;s municipal bonds, not about status or invasions or whatever the flippin&#039; hell roils in a statehood supporter&#039;s febrile noggin. Stick to the topic, look at the facts and have someone teach you where spell-check is. Better yet, learn English in the 16 years of schooling most of you (may have) completed. 

Stop embarrassing yourselves, which might be asking too much of the plainly self-deluded. And one last point: Recent events have proven the post&#039;s point. The massive debt increase in a weak economy/contracting economy means greater investor risk and the possibility of needing a bailout. Like Greece needed a bailout. We might be years or months away from that, but we are getting closer to that, rather than farther away.

Moody&#039;s Downgrades $16 billion in Puerto Rico bonds: http://puertorico.municipalbonds.com/bonds/moodys_report/19457/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Puerto Rican born and bred, the level of discourse here is embarrassing. In too many cases, the writing level is atrocious and the &#8220;facts&#8221; are, to say the least, warped through a political prism.  What frosts my perineum is that most of the comments were most likely written by supporters of statehood for Puerto Rico (in witless defense of the current government administration) and by virtue of their hideous spelling (spell-check function, people?) and pathetic grammar of the language they WANT to live in every day in every way, all they do is reinforce the long-held impression of obviously being &#8220;not American&#8221;.</p>
<p>Not that the average American writes much better, but you know what I mean.</p>
<p>To compound the impression and shove it into the realm of ignorance, the post is about the precarious situation of Puerto Rico&#8217;s municipal bonds, not about status or invasions or whatever the flippin&#8217; hell roils in a statehood supporter&#8217;s febrile noggin. Stick to the topic, look at the facts and have someone teach you where spell-check is. Better yet, learn English in the 16 years of schooling most of you (may have) completed. </p>
<p>Stop embarrassing yourselves, which might be asking too much of the plainly self-deluded. And one last point: Recent events have proven the post&#8217;s point. The massive debt increase in a weak economy/contracting economy means greater investor risk and the possibility of needing a bailout. Like Greece needed a bailout. We might be years or months away from that, but we are getting closer to that, rather than farther away.</p>
<p>Moody&#8217;s Downgrades $16 billion in Puerto Rico bonds: <a href='http://puertorico.municipalbonds.com/bonds/moodys_report/19457/'>http://puertorico.municipalbonds.com/bon ds/moodys_report/19457/</a></p>
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		<title>By: rodridon67</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/muniland/2012/03/08/puerto-rico-is-americas-greece/comment-page-1/#comment-1595</link>
		<dc:creator>rodridon67</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 19:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Puerto Ricans not only pay State Tax but also Federal Taxes. Yet we do not have a representative in the Congress or Senate of the US. The US was founded under the belief that Taxation Without Representation was wrong. Just like the 13 colonies believed this to be wrong in the 1700&#039;s, it is still considered wrong today. Yet Puerto Rico is the only US Territory without representation. And please don&#039;t say that we are represented by our Resident Commissioner. That position has no say in Congress with regards to issues of the US that affect Puerto Rico and can not vote on the issues. 

In short Puerto Ricans pay federal taxes but are not represented with a vocal and Voting representative. This friends is the definition of Taxation Without Representation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Puerto Ricans not only pay State Tax but also Federal Taxes. Yet we do not have a representative in the Congress or Senate of the US. The US was founded under the belief that Taxation Without Representation was wrong. Just like the 13 colonies believed this to be wrong in the 1700&#8242;s, it is still considered wrong today. Yet Puerto Rico is the only US Territory without representation. And please don&#8217;t say that we are represented by our Resident Commissioner. That position has no say in Congress with regards to issues of the US that affect Puerto Rico and can not vote on the issues. </p>
<p>In short Puerto Ricans pay federal taxes but are not represented with a vocal and Voting representative. This friends is the definition of Taxation Without Representation.</p>
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		<title>By: Omaha29</title>
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		<dc:creator>Omaha29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2012 20:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee...I thought the gist of the article was to beware about buying PR bonds because they may not be repaid in full?? Then I read the comments that discussed everything except the finances of PR Bonds</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee&#8230;I thought the gist of the article was to beware about buying PR bonds because they may not be repaid in full?? Then I read the comments that discussed everything except the finances of PR Bonds</p>
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		<title>By: PR2012</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/muniland/2012/03/08/puerto-rico-is-americas-greece/comment-page-1/#comment-1241</link>
		<dc:creator>PR2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 23:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope my puerto rican people survive anything

Because years years ago puerto ricans were hard as workers mayby a lil more then anybody! But once u see what america does to you its lazy because america is the disque (so call) free life when it actually no its not it just has more money then other countries and a lil less laws and gangs tht is corrupted in other nations such as central america

Puerto rico would of got independence years ago by spain but remember even some of you said it u.s just walked in on puerto rico all didily dadly how the white rednecks say it and did things without our permission! So its not puerto rico fault blame yah white gringos for this situatuion u started it now finish it an old saying!

Puerto rico won&#039;t ever become a state been trying for years and still won&#039;t happen
I have faith in my people as well as you guys do for your country

Remember before u.s came in puerto ricans were hard ass workers then u show them your life and made them lazy even though I see puerto ricn busninessed and they trying to work as ahrd as they can!

Debtts is out of hands everyone owes everyone money</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope my puerto rican people survive anything</p>
<p>Because years years ago puerto ricans were hard as workers mayby a lil more then anybody! But once u see what america does to you its lazy because america is the disque (so call) free life when it actually no its not it just has more money then other countries and a lil less laws and gangs tht is corrupted in other nations such as central america</p>
<p>Puerto rico would of got independence years ago by spain but remember even some of you said it u.s just walked in on puerto rico all didily dadly how the white rednecks say it and did things without our permission! So its not puerto rico fault blame yah white gringos for this situatuion u started it now finish it an old saying!</p>
<p>Puerto rico won&#8217;t ever become a state been trying for years and still won&#8217;t happen<br />
I have faith in my people as well as you guys do for your country</p>
<p>Remember before u.s came in puerto ricans were hard ass workers then u show them your life and made them lazy even though I see puerto ricn busninessed and they trying to work as ahrd as they can!</p>
<p>Debtts is out of hands everyone owes everyone money</p>
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		<title>By: Howtrue</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/muniland/2012/03/08/puerto-rico-is-americas-greece/comment-page-1/#comment-896</link>
		<dc:creator>Howtrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 02:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Governor on where they&#039;ve come from and where they&#039;re going:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FnFmngISQA&amp;feature=youtu.be</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Governor on where they&#8217;ve come from and where they&#8217;re going:</p>
<p><a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FnFmngISQA&#038;feature=youtu.be'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FnFmngIS QA&#038;feature=youtu.be</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kberg</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/muniland/2012/03/08/puerto-rico-is-americas-greece/comment-page-1/#comment-894</link>
		<dc:creator>Kberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2012 08:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many problems with this article rhetoric aside,

1.Puerto Rico has an Emigration issue, skilled workers leave and workers in puerto rico are often immigrants, 

2. Puerto rico does not get state aid like other states but also is left on its own due to non-state hood, calling it america&#039;s greece is silly, as it isn&#039;t a state, the demographics, economy, language, infrastructure, history of the USA has little or nothing to do with puerto rico,

3. Greece&#039;s problems are due to the Euro a one size all fits currency, tax evasion, and spending unwisely, greece is soverign , puerto rico is basically a colony with a few rights due to its status not being final,

4. Food Stamps have long been gone in puerto rico, almost 30 years, before the book was published, a switch to a less costly block grant program was given.

5. The &quot;Greece scare&quot; is common amongst folks, ignoring the facts, greeks work very hard and tax evasion is a problem, take a look at ireland one of the &quot;pigs&quot;, austerity and low corporate taxation would make conservatives smile, but alas to no avail, of course I am not saying conservatives are wrong, but to use rhetoric and not get the facts straight, credibility of your point and argument, in fact high spending states such as sweden and finland are doing fine.

In summary, Puerto rico cannot be America&#039;s greece because the former is more like a wanted/unwanted stepchild and stepparent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many problems with this article rhetoric aside,</p>
<p>1.Puerto Rico has an Emigration issue, skilled workers leave and workers in puerto rico are often immigrants, </p>
<p>2. Puerto rico does not get state aid like other states but also is left on its own due to non-state hood, calling it america&#8217;s greece is silly, as it isn&#8217;t a state, the demographics, economy, language, infrastructure, history of the USA has little or nothing to do with puerto rico,</p>
<p>3. Greece&#8217;s problems are due to the Euro a one size all fits currency, tax evasion, and spending unwisely, greece is soverign , puerto rico is basically a colony with a few rights due to its status not being final,</p>
<p>4. Food Stamps have long been gone in puerto rico, almost 30 years, before the book was published, a switch to a less costly block grant program was given.</p>
<p>5. The &#8220;Greece scare&#8221; is common amongst folks, ignoring the facts, greeks work very hard and tax evasion is a problem, take a look at ireland one of the &#8220;pigs&#8221;, austerity and low corporate taxation would make conservatives smile, but alas to no avail, of course I am not saying conservatives are wrong, but to use rhetoric and not get the facts straight, credibility of your point and argument, in fact high spending states such as sweden and finland are doing fine.</p>
<p>In summary, Puerto rico cannot be America&#8217;s greece because the former is more like a wanted/unwanted stepchild and stepparent.</p>
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		<title>By: Piry25</title>
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		<dc:creator>Piry25</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 19:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazed me to see the fanatics writing in this post. The blames continues pnp, ppd whatever. The issues of Puerto Rico has been created from both main parties. The ay bendito and the corruption that is rampant in their local government is a complete disgrace.

If you believe PR has a strong economy you must be kidding. When everything cost almost double than in the  states and the salaries of people are stagnant how that can be progress. If you tell me that the underground economy is making money I will believe you &quot;drugs&quot; everyone. Indeed they are making a killing at there. 

Now Mrs. Long has not posted anything that is not true about PR economy that is a completed fiasco and if you really believe that the USA will bail you out you better think twice that rhetoric. In your dreams!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazed me to see the fanatics writing in this post. The blames continues pnp, ppd whatever. The issues of Puerto Rico has been created from both main parties. The ay bendito and the corruption that is rampant in their local government is a complete disgrace.</p>
<p>If you believe PR has a strong economy you must be kidding. When everything cost almost double than in the  states and the salaries of people are stagnant how that can be progress. If you tell me that the underground economy is making money I will believe you &#8220;drugs&#8221; everyone. Indeed they are making a killing at there. </p>
<p>Now Mrs. Long has not posted anything that is not true about PR economy that is a completed fiasco and if you really believe that the USA will bail you out you better think twice that rhetoric. In your dreams!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Cate_Long</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/muniland/2012/03/08/puerto-rico-is-americas-greece/comment-page-1/#comment-869</link>
		<dc:creator>Cate_Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 15:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks again Howtrue.

Let&#039;s revisit the topic when interest rates have risen and rolling PR debt becomes a lot more expensive. The very low rate environment has been a blessing to municipal issuers. It&#039;s unlikely that this condition will last given the quantity injected into the monetary system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again Howtrue.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s revisit the topic when interest rates have risen and rolling PR debt becomes a lot more expensive. The very low rate environment has been a blessing to municipal issuers. It&#8217;s unlikely that this condition will last given the quantity injected into the monetary system.</p>
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