Comments on: Peril and paranoia in the new Middle East http://blogs.reuters.com/nader-mousavizadeh/2011/11/28/peril-and-paranoia-in-the-new-middle-east/ Navigating the global archipelago Fri, 26 Sep 2014 22:50:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Sonmyungmoon http://blogs.reuters.com/nader-mousavizadeh/2011/11/28/peril-and-paranoia-in-the-new-middle-east/#comment-200 Tue, 20 Mar 2012 14:43:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/nader-mousavizadeh/?p=58#comment-200 God, not AGod will not “fix” thissituation
Man has His oun porpion of responsbilith and Will not interfear…
Timothy Lee
Houston was the name of a large
city on Earth…

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By: vh070 http://blogs.reuters.com/nader-mousavizadeh/2011/11/28/peril-and-paranoia-in-the-new-middle-east/#comment-186 Tue, 17 Jan 2012 01:01:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/nader-mousavizadeh/?p=58#comment-186 A god could fix this quickly by coming out to pronounce that reports of his existence are greatly exaggerated.

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By: txgadfly http://blogs.reuters.com/nader-mousavizadeh/2011/11/28/peril-and-paranoia-in-the-new-middle-east/#comment-185 Mon, 16 Jan 2012 22:58:12 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/nader-mousavizadeh/?p=58#comment-185 Oh yes. On the election. When it comes to the one multi-trillion dollar subsidy that has nearly bankrupted the US Government, there is not a difference among any of the candidates of whatever “party” you want to believe in. The only exception is Republican Ron Paul.

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By: txgadfly http://blogs.reuters.com/nader-mousavizadeh/2011/11/28/peril-and-paranoia-in-the-new-middle-east/#comment-184 Mon, 16 Jan 2012 22:43:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/nader-mousavizadeh/?p=58#comment-184 Iran is threatening Israel. Israel is not a State in the Union last time I looked. If it were, and it was required to obey Federal laws such as various Civil Rights act, Voting rights, and trial by jury with a presumption of innocence, then we should be concerned about it.

Otherwise, why do loyal Americans favor Israel and its current policies over the American elderly, disabled, and poor? How is letting your own people down “loyal”? Israel has invaded our politics and our media. And our US Treasury. It is time for it to end. It is a small European religious colony in Southwest Asia. Let them live with their neighbors. They did for thousands of years. Why not now?

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By: soilgeo http://blogs.reuters.com/nader-mousavizadeh/2011/11/28/peril-and-paranoia-in-the-new-middle-east/#comment-180 Thu, 15 Dec 2011 02:53:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/nader-mousavizadeh/?p=58#comment-180 We are wasting time and brain power talking about irrelevant things.Today the divide in the world is between rich and poor.)(as always).
and it is the poor that were made so by the few,the big powers of the 20th century.not any more.now every person on earth has awareness and wants freedom (as he or she understands it ).
and above all ,noone wants to be hungry and everyone knbows how not to be.by living in a western country ,europe or usa.(until now that is because the future seems different from what weve known so far.)
My take is that we will have global uprising of the poor,of the many,total callapse of the banking system,and the markets,and redistribution of wealth by force or not,depending on how stupid the rich will prove to be.they can give away their fat profits and stop making vast amounts of money on the backs of the rest of the humanity.or they can insist and face destruction ,since the people will not stop ,now they are aware ,they know they can have a better life and they will get it one way or another ,or die trying.it is exactly what everyone would do in this position.
So instead of talking about non existant situations and dreams lets prepare for the change,the big change that is on its way…..if we are smart we wil take advantage of this ,and create a better world.if not we are all doomed to live and die in misery.sorry…..as for the detailsof the one or the other situation today is not important.arabs ,europeans americans ,they all want one thing now.equality and freedom.noonw will setlle for less.noone will shut up for money .noone can be bought any more.those who served the rich will follow their fate .i m sure of this.they will be punished for their crimes against the rest of humanity ,for sure.Crime never pays off……
i hope we all stop seeing the poor people as something strange,we will soon (most of us ) be in a similar position,after the system collapses and food and water become scarce.trust me,i know ,i can see it happening today in greece.people who were midle class now go to the charity for food.wait for it,they are angry and desperate.they are fed up and they are educated (so noone can persuade them for things that arent true.)you want to take your chances and try to manipulate them?i feel sorry for whoever tries this .the anger of the people will strike back like a tornado ,leveling everyhting that was used against the people.i think so ….do you ?…….

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By: paintcan http://blogs.reuters.com/nader-mousavizadeh/2011/11/28/peril-and-paranoia-in-the-new-middle-east/#comment-179 Thu, 08 Dec 2011 02:15:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/nader-mousavizadeh/?p=58#comment-179 In the recent history of world wars – from the Seven Years war to World War II – the imperial scaled powers tend to weaken themselves and die as a result of their balance of power conflicts. And they all suffered agonizing “redefinition” as the result.

Txgadfly has sound intuition. He knows the US is fading as a major power and China will rise as the mega super power in the 21st century. Few now give them credit for anything but imitation. But few today remember that Germany prior to and between the wars was considered the most sophisticated world capitol of technological and scientific innovation. Now they are mostly known as the capitol of European capital. My friend from Brazil told me recently that all anyone of his parents generation thought about the USA was that we were a lot of merchants and businessmen. Europe was the cultural capital to them. Now I’m not sure who is or if it matters at all who claims to be the center of cultural attention and influence now, but the USA was not the only society that ever produced new ideas or inventions and it won’t be the last. That is, if the future needs or cares for further innovation? The problem now seems to be – can any country stay alive without spoiling it’s own nest? The future may want retrenchment and stability: the Islamist governments?

In a few decades or sooner, Israel could be seen as an ideological quirk (Zionism) and a stupid idea that never should have happened in a sane world. It is still the only ME country – or any country as afar as I know – still overtly trying to enlarge its territory through military occupation and the displacement of indigenous inhabitants. How do the Israeli’s think that can continue when the natives have cell phones and PC’s?

What haunts the nightmares of the big powers is the knowledge that they didn’t look that good when they were making their scramble to the top and they also know that the up and comers will look just fine to most people when they have taken over the top places in world affairs. Successful people can be perfect bastards on their rise to the top but once they are there, they can edit the record and marginalize their critics. That’s the paranoia that haunts the fading powers. They know they will be on the receiving end of what they were used to serving to their underlings. The up and comers should also expect that the fading regimes will do what they can to either co-opt them or try to destroy them first.

But there is one unshakable political truth (OOTS should like this): All old regimes, like old trees, eventually die. Somehow, I don’t think the US is going to escape it’s period of agonizing redefinition. It’s already started and I’m sure it won’t be any easier on us than it was on any other historic world power.

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By: reuters_reader http://blogs.reuters.com/nader-mousavizadeh/2011/11/28/peril-and-paranoia-in-the-new-middle-east/#comment-178 Wed, 07 Dec 2011 17:33:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/nader-mousavizadeh/?p=58#comment-178 Wading through this turgid gobbledygook is an exercise in frustration, with little return to show for the effort. I should not need to read a sentence twice to try to parse the gist of it.

“But to the very real perils arising from deeply divergent interests among Arabs, Turks, Persians and Israelis is now added a degree of heightened paranoia that threatens to multiply the perils with consequences reaching far beyond the region itself.” Come again? How about “The interests of Arabs, Turks, Persians and Israelis are already divergent enough, and fraught with enough tension. The ongoing trend of heightened paranoia amongst the region’s key players could have unexpectedly dire consequences that reach far beyond the Middle East.”

And this: “If the Middle East’s energy security game is in the midst of profound change with dramatic strategic consequences for the future U.S. commitment to the region, so are the dynamics of the region’s political and security challenges.” What does that even mean? It’s too logically mushy and vague to even guess at.

Similarly, the overall sense of the author’s position is obscured and vague. The best I could extract:

1) Energy security (no need to capitalize this pointlessly): the US imports a lot of oil from Canada. Bye bye OPEC! And look out for the Chinese!

2) Arab Spring: oops– looks like democracy in Muslim countries means Muslim leaders– didn’t see that one coming!

3) Iran: Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran!

4) Palestine: business as usual. Except the puppet state puppets next door are gone! Pity poor Israel, they might actually have to let Palestine exist!

Here is what the author of this crap “analysis” missed.

1) Tar sand oil extraction is one of the most expensive, dirtiest and most climate-polluting ways to get oil out of the ground out there. Did I mention expensive. Is it a lever to get better prices out of OPEC? Maybe– if those price concessions can survive the stranglehold that Goldman Sachs and other oil “traders” exercise on the supply getting to American shores. But GS aside, will Canada replace Saudi Arabia? Absolutely not. So the US will remain engaged in the Middle East on “Energy Security”. Very engaged. A look at the size of the Baghdad embassy complex and the numbers of U.S. “private security contractors” still present in Iraq will confirm, if you have any doubts.

2) The Arab Spring: guess what? Democracy means democracy. Even (especially) when the people in question have a different religion, different world view, different realpolitik. So too bad, so sad, to the likes of Israel and Mr. Kissinger, but it looks like the Arabs would rather rule themselves than be ruled over– and it also looks like they would rather not toe the Israeli line when it comes to foreign policy. Israel will have to (gasp) deal with it.

3) Iran: here the Israelis are working overtime to destabilize the regime from within. Why no mention of Stuxnet here? This little trojan (courtesy most likely of Mossad) did wonders to sabotage the centrifuges and Iran’s nuclear capability is likely as clear and present a danger as Saddam’s WMD. The US is playing along with spies (“hikers”) and drones being deployed left and right, but the US is not about to go bombing Iran without involving the whole of Europe. (Consider Libya a dry run.) And lo and behold! Suddenly we miraculously are provided with a storming of the British embassy… an act which makes sense only if it was set off by agents provocateur, as it makes absolutely no policy sense from an Iranian perspective.

4) Palestine: no discussion of the push for statehood? Of Abbas’s clever use of the very UN institutions that legitimized Israel’s existence as tools to legitimize Palestine’s existence? And we are also not told of the deepening unrest in Israel itself: street protests did not just happen in Cairo this year. The middle-of-the-road secular Israelis are getting more and more fed up with the hardline warmongers on the right who currently dictate foreign policy and the treatment of the Palestinians. The continued slow diplomatic push by Abbas via the UN, coupled with a growing Israeli disgust with the occupation, bodes well for the beginnings of actual peace.

The Arab Spring is not only Arab. It is the Middle East Spring. Israeli leaders should be just as worried as the Saudi despots, for they are both dinosaurs of the past whose time has come and gone. Desperate to cling to power, they may resort to desperate acts– and the Israeli leadership has been working overtime to foment war with Iran by any means necessary.

The problem is that nobody wants this war: not the US, not Iran, not the Arabs we keep hearing are so concerned about Persian meddling in their affairs, and not the Israeli people themselves. People across the region want peace, jobs, and to have done with dictators and warmongers. This is what the Arab Spring is about. It remains to be seen whether Israel will manifest its own Spring or the hardliners will continue to cling to power and to dreams of war.

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By: Ouafi_Khalid http://blogs.reuters.com/nader-mousavizadeh/2011/11/28/peril-and-paranoia-in-the-new-middle-east/#comment-177 Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:23:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/nader-mousavizadeh/?p=58#comment-177 I always asked myself why the words “christianist” and “jewishst” don’t exist. Did the world see Islam like the only religion with violence? It’s really injuring.

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By: jimguinnessey http://blogs.reuters.com/nader-mousavizadeh/2011/11/28/peril-and-paranoia-in-the-new-middle-east/#comment-176 Tue, 06 Dec 2011 15:36:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/nader-mousavizadeh/?p=58#comment-176 It may be too early and too pretentious to start predicting if the so-called Arab spring will devolve into an Arab winter for both its protagonists and the rest of us onlookers in the West. The very sound of the much-abussed word “Islamist” sends fear into the hearts and minds of Westerners and others who may have witnessed various bloody Islamist political and religious hostile episodes since the “ancient” PLO days of terror in Rome and Munich let alone the savage aftermaths resulting from the attacks on the USA in 9/11.

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By: semzell http://blogs.reuters.com/nader-mousavizadeh/2011/11/28/peril-and-paranoia-in-the-new-middle-east/#comment-174 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:25:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/nader-mousavizadeh/?p=58#comment-174 interesting, On Nov. 29, 1947, the U.N. General Assembly passed a resolution calling for Palestine to be partitioned between Arabs and Jews. Arabs walk out.

there’s no Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
it’s Arabs and Jews conflict, Muslim and non-Muslim.

why German did not cut a piece of land IN 1947 and won’t give it to Jews? SIMPLE, Jews want their own land which is belong them according to Bible.

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