Comments on: Pakistan: Breaking down the stereotypes http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/04/06/pakistan-breaking-down-the-stereotypes/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: s nazar Fatimi http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/04/06/pakistan-breaking-down-the-stereotypes/comment-page-1/#comment-17266 Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:33:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/04/06/pakistan-breaking-down-the-stereotypes/#comment-17266 DEMOCRACY, PLURALISM and DIALOGUE
We all know and should know the importance of these principals. We are used to hear all these principles in the media, seminars, Academies and institutions. In the current global scenario, it is an “esoteric” may be the “exoteric” fact that we are playing with all these beautiful TERMS and rhitorics to fulfill our own interests and become powerful, other wise we are abusing these beautiful terms. Economically, on humanitarian ground, in health facilities, Education and in standard of living WE ARE ALL NON DEMOCRATIC, UN PLURALISTIC and RADICALS. These are jargons repeated to easily access the resources, to exploite the ignorants and to INFLUENCE the world to achieve the goal which may be pure personal and intrinsic.

Let the INTELLECTUALS come forward to expose the imposters, to identify the HANDS and BRAINS behind the actual scenes. May be things are not as are played and displayed.

S. Nazar Fatimi Chitral

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By: s nazar Fatimi http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/04/06/pakistan-breaking-down-the-stereotypes/comment-page-1/#comment-17171 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 01:23:37 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/04/06/pakistan-breaking-down-the-stereotypes/#comment-17171 Terrorism, Radicalism, Fundamentalism is the remnants of the CRUSADERS and the Christians who continued Holy Wars against their brother community the AMBIGEANS who followed different, balanced, and non radical idea about CHRIST and the GOD. Further the CRUSADERS fought against the Muslim world for more or less than 200 hundred years in the pretext to liberate the HOLY CITY while the Holy City was always opened for them for pilgrim, and they offered every facility to stay there as guest of the Muslims and even the Jews. The crusaders used to eat the flash of the Muslims and the butchered Muslims were distributed as ration as indicated even by the western historians. Now the Holy City is there but they don’t care about.
Further Radicalism, Terrorism and killing the public figures and cultural representatives was carried out by the Iranian and Syrian Fida,i Ismailis specially the Nizari Ismailis. They adopted this killing Modus Operandi to gain power as a megalomania.
Before the advent of Pakistan or any other Islamic country no such example of Radicalism, Fundamentalism and terrorism was prevailed in any corner of the Islamic World.
The present phase of terrorism, radicalism, and fundamentalism started when in the WEST the Idea of Clash of Civilization was adopted by the elements having political interest, undergrounds, Mafias and conspirators who were ambitious to snatch the immense resources of the world of this area. The second motive behind was RISING of CHINA as a super power.
Without generating pseudo Taaliban the Americans and Westerns could not proceed forward, and could achieve their goal. Even in Pakistan the the ruling elites who could not give the country a system in the 60 years were so allured by the influx of dollars that they offered their services to destabilize the area.
These elements themselves are very strong and stable but the country they ruled is the weakest of the world even being an atomic power. This atomic power was also abused and used to grip the country and the nation not to gain the national pride. Mir Jaffar and Mir Sadiq are there to sell the nation for dollars. The Americans and the Westerners themselves not do dirty things, but they select/choose people like our elites and rulers to do these dirty things in the disguise of Taliban or Terrorists. Community, Jamaats, Tablighee, Islami and Ulema are not involved not directly nor indirectly in these dirty activities.
Millions Dollars, twenty truck ammunitions, hundred truck ration, intact logistic system, target identification, correct linkages and communication system, sophisticated guide line system is not simply maneuvered by the so called Taliban themselves. It is the Institutions and their co-ordinted and integrated system which is sustainable, durable and directional. Other wise a group of troop may have driven them out in a single day or two.
Please STOP to befool the world. Esoterically all know, that you are befooling them.
S. Nazar Fatimi

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By: S Nazar Fatimi http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/04/06/pakistan-breaking-down-the-stereotypes/comment-page-1/#comment-16893 Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:40:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/04/06/pakistan-breaking-down-the-stereotypes/#comment-16893 AllAH WILL SUSTAIN AND MAINTAIN PAKISTAN. THE CONSPIRACY OF THE ENEMIES OUTER AND INSIDE WILL RESULT IN FAILURE. I FORESEE PAKISTAN COME OUT OF THESE GAUGMIRE AND DEVIL FORCES. YES, MAN PROPOSED GOD DISPOSES. WHO ASSISTED PAKISTAN CAME INTO BEING BUT ALLAH AND THE NATION ITSELF. AT THAT TIME WE HAD NO FORCES AND ARMY AND WE WERE MORE STRONG. NOW WE BEING ATOMIC AND THE WEAKEST NATION. IT IS NOT THE FAULT OF THE NATION MD COMMUNITY. IT BECAUSE THE COUNTRY RULED BY THE STOOGES OF THE ALIEN POWER WHOME WERE SAID TO SELL EVEN THEIR….BY THE AMERICANS WHO TESTED THEM MANY TIMES AND IN MANT WAYS. THENATION IS ALL RIGHT INSPITE OF ITS FAULTY AND UNINTEGRATED POLITICAL, JUDICIAL,EDUCATIONAL AND SECURITY SYSTEM. THINGS R OFTEN HAPPENED AS THEY R PREDICTED,PLANNED AND RIRECTED. SO WILL BE HERE. FEEL CONSTRUCTIVE, ein humm bigzarad (persian Quot), THE MIST AND FOGGY ATMOSPHERE WILL VANISH AND THE SUN WIKK RISE BEYOND THE CLOUD.
S. NAZAR FATIMI, CHITRAL

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By: S Nazar Fatimi http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/04/06/pakistan-breaking-down-the-stereotypes/comment-page-1/#comment-16874 Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:04:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/04/06/pakistan-breaking-down-the-stereotypes/#comment-16874 I SAY THE WISDOM, RULE OF LAW, HUMANITY, ISLAM AND HARMONIOUS DEVELOPMENTS WILL PREVAIL AND THE COUNTRY INSPITE OF ALL ITS ODDS WILL FLOURISH. IT WILL OCCUR AS WAS OCCURED IN 1947. ALL THE DEVIL FORCES WILL BE UNIMAGINABLY WILL BE DEFEATED AND THE NATION WILL BE FLORISHED AND PROGRESS AND WILL JOIN THE CIVILISED NATIONS. YES, ALL HURTING AND DEMAGING THE THE NATION BUT THE SAVOIR IS THE MOST POWERFUL.
S. FATIMI

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By: S Nazar http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/04/06/pakistan-breaking-down-the-stereotypes/comment-page-1/#comment-16643 Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:11:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/04/06/pakistan-breaking-down-the-stereotypes/#comment-16643 Yes ! ALLAH has blessed Pakistan and GRACED with immence potentials. It may have been proved a great nation like JAPAN and China BUT four VIRUSES clung to this country which was the DREAM of IQBAL and Achievement of QUID E AZAM and non combatant muslim community of India. At that time all were muslims and became pakistani. Now we have turned into BEGGERS, the NATIONHOOD has been dissolved, NO JUSTICE, even the judges are craving for JUSTICE, Atomic Power But we have been defeated by the most WEAK enemy like Hindustan many times on whome we had governed for a thousand years. No culprit of Pakistan yet been punished and No TRAITOR put to justice. On the contrary the lovers of the country martyred i.e Hakim Saeed, Salahud Din, Air Chief, General of Medical Core etc etc who were true Pakistanis .
The four viruses GENERALS, (unjust) JUDGES, JAGIRDAARS, and JOURNALISTS. All these sucked Pakistan like vampire and NOW the American’s new element Mullah has emerged who is being trained, supported, sponsored, given target and monitored very precisely and with entire sophistication. They are financed , powered and given VIP treatment. There is ALHAMDU LILLAH No JI, JUI/P or Tablighee among them. They are American Oriented and SOPHISTs. Americans, Isreal and Indian R named for the current ugly crises BUT all would say, it is impossible without some power element co-ordination from within with immence RESOURCES and LOGISTIC SUPPORT, INFORMATIONS, LINKAGES and SAFE and protected HEAVENs.

Have you heard any culprit from thousands put to justice and punished? The Elites and the snatchers of the public exchequer now sending their mony out, and NOT BRINGING TO PAKISTAN to escape and leave the boat in huddle. The Army ruled the country Directly and Indirectly for decades, never mind BUT could not give system/SOP to the country. The Above FIVE elements are the most POWERFUL BUT Pakistan is weakening day by day. Some individuals and Institutions are more powerful than LAW. There is no law,no marshal law, no Islamic system, no democracy(merely civilian rule is NO democracy), no security, no peace, no employment, no leadership, no certainty, no institution to secure the country or save the people from being butchered openly in the CHOWK. What an ironic being an atomic power. The Americans have planned to destroy by the pretext to save the world declaring our country as virus and source of problem. In NWFP Taliban and in KARACHI MQM were not established by themselves, They were engineered and generated. Then who else left to protect PAKISTAN ? YES I hope and it is my PURE REASON that the victory be to ALLAH and the OTHERS will themselves be ruined. We have left NO STRAW UNTURNED to destroy it and accumulated for ourselves BILLIONS, a lot of new Jagirdaars and Industrialist have emereged. The people of Pakistan are the most patriotic, sacrificers and loyal but the MENACE are the ABOVE ELEMENTS. What would you say ??? S. Nazar

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By: S. Ahmed http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/04/06/pakistan-breaking-down-the-stereotypes/comment-page-1/#comment-335 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:02:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/04/06/pakistan-breaking-down-the-stereotypes/#comment-335 When Pakistan was created back in 1947 – many prominent Indian and British figures such as Earl Mountbatten thought it wouldn’t survive. And why would it? A poor country, uneducated workforce, no industry and no institutions. Thankfully Quaid-E-Azam M. A. Jinnah worked hard enough to give us some semblence of a state before passing away.

Despite what the Western media says, we want our country to be sucsessful and prosperous. We’re told women are second class citizens and can’t walk on the street on thier own. That’s Saudi Arabia – not Pakistan. Go to any Bazaar in Lahore, Karachi, Islamabad et al, at the weekend and all you’ll see is women shopping and buying clothes. The majority of graduates from Pakistani medical schools are women (with MBBS degrees).

Treatment of minorities is another major concern for the world media. Cricketers have the highest status in our country. Our best batsman – Mohammad Yousaf (Youhana) – was a christian who converted to Islam. Our best spinner is Danish Kaneria – a practising Hindu. The last chief justice of Pakistan was Rana Bhagwandas (Hindu). And a lot of prominent business men from Karachi (city of over 10 million) are Hindus and Parsis. Hardly a society where minorities are treated like animals. While there are people who discriminate against them – they exist in every country.

Peace

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By: Dr Idris Shah Ebrahimi http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/04/06/pakistan-breaking-down-the-stereotypes/comment-page-1/#comment-252 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:51:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/04/06/pakistan-breaking-down-the-stereotypes/#comment-252 There is absolutely no doubt that Pakistan is a peace-loving state that is on the rise, It has the potential to be the next Japan, That being said the neighbours of Pakistan namely India, Afghanistan, Bangladesh must reconcile themselves to the existence of the Pakistani nation state. Only when India, Afghanistan and Bangladesh love thier own countries more than they hate Pakistan can there ever be a meaningful peace in South Asia. The western world has its own guilty conscience with regard to Pakistan, After utiziling Pakistan’s geostrategic advantages during the cold-war with the USSR they have now taken Pakistan hostage again to do its bidding in the War on Terrorism, Pakistan as a State abhors terrorism but will never-ever allow any country to interfere in its internal affairs, no matter what the consequences. If there is one thing the world can learn from Pakistan, It is that no-matter what obstacles are thrown in the way of Pakistan, But overcomes the obstacle and is always ready to overcome the next one. We are a resilient and proud nation that desires nothing more or less than to live in peace in the comity of nations and let others live in peace and honour.

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By: Adeel Khan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/04/06/pakistan-breaking-down-the-stereotypes/comment-page-1/#comment-250 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:23:46 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/04/06/pakistan-breaking-down-the-stereotypes/#comment-250 I, being a Pakistani, am extremely ashamed of Musharraf. The parliament should expel him from the position of President immediately. I don’t see why national interests of a rogue communist authoritarian state like China to be more important than the the security of all countries in South and Southeast Asia. Musharraf has allowed China to build a deep sea port in Gwadar and as if this was not enough he is allowing China to build rail and road links into Pakistan under the name of trade.

History is being created as we speak and if we spinelessly bow down in front of a belligernat regime of China, I have no doubt that it would be opening up the way for Chinese invasion into Pakistan for our natural resources. I hope Pakistan does not become the “next Tibet” to be occupied or rather peacefully liberated by China in a few decades.

The best solution is a Free Tibet and a Free Xinjiang. The world should give them a chance and a helping hand to come out extreme oppression at the hands of the Communists. It is possible only with a unified and coordinated attack by the whole world on diplomatic, military, ecnonomic fronts.

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By: Bijan Arora http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/04/06/pakistan-breaking-down-the-stereotypes/comment-page-1/#comment-243 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:25:12 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/04/06/pakistan-breaking-down-the-stereotypes/#comment-243 I am a proud Indian, a proud Hindu and to tell you the truth it is really heartening to know that Pakistan is not all Taliban and Al-Qaeda only. I really appreciate Pakistanis taking pride in their secular credentials, free press, fashion and off course beautiful women. I would love to know a lot more about your beautiful country from you guys. You people are music to ears after all those sermons from Osama Bin Laden. Most of the Indians like me and there are many would like to see a secular economically thriving stable Pakistan in their neighborhood. I know there are awesome expressways in Pakistan and the more you will have the better for India as it gives our politicians some kind of benchmark to achieve. Most of the Indians do not have any grudge against Pakistanis, there are some issues with Pakistan as a country, its Military and ISI, even you as people of Pakistan know that, but as a Pakistani you are most welcome in India. Your artists, cricketers and many others already know that. There are lot Pakistani guys dating Indian women, I hope some day we less fortunate guys from India have a chance to date your beautiful women as well.
To all the Indians and Pakistanis out there, every house has its problems, but lets keep the neighborhood clean and friendly. Stop throwing stones at each other. Lets live and grow in peace.

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By: Conscientious Observer http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/04/06/pakistan-breaking-down-the-stereotypes/comment-page-1/#comment-235 Tue, 15 Apr 2008 02:27:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/04/06/pakistan-breaking-down-the-stereotypes/#comment-235 This article regarding Pakistan is in contrast to what I have read about the country recently. Like most countries, I imagine it to have it’s beautiful scenery and good food of course. I imagine most people to want what is best and safest for themselves and their children. (Except for those that believe in honour killing of their children). I believe Pakistan would be worth visiting one day. But how is a ‘westerner’ viewed by the everyday person over there? How safe would it be for a westerner to walk the street by him/herself? Many westerners would only view Pakistan from what is in the media. Do women by themselves or with others walk the streets of the capital there without fear of attack during the middle of the day? I understand there would be the criminal element – just like every other town or city in the world, but the prevelence of suicide bombings and attacks on foreigners is very rare and some places non existent in many european and asian / pacific countries (unless certain irrational and insane groups have their way). I look forward to reading more views.

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