Comments on: Why choose now to complain about Pakistan’s ISI? http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/08/01/why-choose-now-to-complain-about-pakistans-isi/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Shayan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/08/01/why-choose-now-to-complain-about-pakistans-isi/comment-page-1/#comment-7984 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:41:03 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/08/01/why-choose-now-to-complain-about-pakistans-isi/#comment-7984 All of us indulged in trying to imposing our own viewpoints on others and expecting others to believ blindly in these must realise that the spy agencies, no matter where and for whom they work for, are always meant for destructive and maLicious purpose. It’s not a question who did what and who didn’t. The question is that these agencies are always incorporated with a rougue idea of inflicting damage to others we think our opponents.

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By: Ravindra http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/08/01/why-choose-now-to-complain-about-pakistans-isi/comment-page-1/#comment-3302 Sat, 06 Sep 2008 08:06:54 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/08/01/why-choose-now-to-complain-about-pakistans-isi/#comment-3302 Myra, Americans aspire – and pretend to be – world cops, but unless it begins to burn their own fingers and other parts of their anatomy, people killed by shady organizations like ISI in other parts of the world – such as the remote India of snake charmers and rope trick – makes no difference to them. Like dirty cops on the take they look the other way.
And now you are asking why they are looking the right way now!Well,simply because their own families are in danger now and the dirty money doesn’t count for much!

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By: asim butt http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/08/01/why-choose-now-to-complain-about-pakistans-isi/comment-page-1/#comment-2728 Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:23:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/08/01/why-choose-now-to-complain-about-pakistans-isi/#comment-2728 Dear Friends

I would like to add that the politicians in the White house require us to think that ISI is to be blamed for all that has gone wrong in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I would like to pose a question but don want an answer. I just want people to think about this within themselves.

DIDI YOU REALLY EXPECT THE WARR IN IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN TO BE SMOOTH AND SUCCESSFULL?

In the time of election the parties need an escape goat but dont worry I am quite sure that another message from so alled terrorist (al qaeda) would help to swing the voters into certain direction as per some require in the white house.

This happend whilst Bush was running for presidency in his second phase as a President and just a day ago a helpful message for Pervaz Musharaff and in future as Amercia and allies required.

Anyways the only way o end this activities semms to be to reslolve major problems such as Killig of kashmiris by India in their controlled land is not relaistic and should not be able to happen in todays wold.

Asim

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By: Jawad http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/08/01/why-choose-now-to-complain-about-pakistans-isi/comment-page-1/#comment-2398 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:52:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/08/01/why-choose-now-to-complain-about-pakistans-isi/#comment-2398 They have chosen this time because it is ripe now. There could never have been a better time. Its all about taking control of Pakistan’s atomic program. It was impossible that the US forces packed back from Iraq and Afghanistan without settling the core issue of Pakistan’s nuclear program. So the time has come, fortunately for the US, the public opinion against the Pakistan Army is touching the lowest level in the country. The scenario may have been articulately created where President Musharraf was reassured again and again by the US only serving to drop his, and the Military’s, popularity to an extent where a strike against ISI, and thus the nuclear assets of Pakistan, was possible. It should be kept in mind that the total control of Pakistan’s nuclear program is in the hands of Military or more precisely ISI.

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By: Conscientious Observer http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/08/01/why-choose-now-to-complain-about-pakistans-isi/comment-page-1/#comment-2368 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:32:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/08/01/why-choose-now-to-complain-about-pakistans-isi/#comment-2368 Did the ISI get some training from the CIA?

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By: UMPK http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/08/01/why-choose-now-to-complain-about-pakistans-isi/comment-page-1/#comment-2301 Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:08:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/08/01/why-choose-now-to-complain-about-pakistans-isi/#comment-2301 Hey Sanjay
Its my turn to confront you now. Ok, so what democracy are you talking about? What India did in 1971 by imposing a war and flaming conflict in East Pakistan was totally undemocratic. RAW has been widely involved in the terrorist activities in Pakistan, I guess RAW being answerable to the Indian Govt, so RAW terrorism in Pakistan might be authorized by the Indian democratic govt? Do you have a say?
India is widely hated in Sri Lanka that is because of meddling in internal affairs of that country by India.
Nepal can never assert its soverignity over India, its such a small country. Its only Pakistan in the whole region that has always remained a challenge for India.
The question arises, why does India need half a dozen consulates in Afghanistan? Simply because RAW wants to destabalize the NWFP and Baluchistan region of Pakistan using these consulates as a shield. ISI is an intelligence agency, and cannot allow India to establish spy centres in its neighbourhood. Fact is, ISI remains a force to be reckoned with. You put your own house in order first, your corrupt law enforcement agencies lacking professionalism have failed to protect your people. Why blame ISI, RAW is your culprit. Ask RAW why is it sleeping while local Indian terrorist groups create mayhem in your cities.

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By: Sanjay http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/08/01/why-choose-now-to-complain-about-pakistans-isi/comment-page-1/#comment-2265 Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:15:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/08/01/why-choose-now-to-complain-about-pakistans-isi/#comment-2265 Moody, why don’t you tell me which embassy of Pakistan’s has been blown up by India? Is Pakistan’s embassy in Nepal in flames or rubble? India often complains that Pakistan’s embassy there is involved in sponsoring militancy. While you want to play a game of moral equivalency between the 2 countries — obviously you don’t care one iota that India is the democracy out of the 2 countries — to ignore the long difference in their track records. Which Indian security agency isn’t accountable to the Indian parliament? Which military coup has India had? Which military dictatorship has India been ruled by? You seem to think that democracies and military dictatorships are morally equivalent, but they’re not. Democracies behave more responsibly and more maturely, in case you’re not aware. I’m so sorry that I have to spell out the obvious for you. Your comments say more about you than about the subject you’re commenting upon.

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By: Tejas http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/08/01/why-choose-now-to-complain-about-pakistans-isi/comment-page-1/#comment-2224 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:17:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/08/01/why-choose-now-to-complain-about-pakistans-isi/#comment-2224 although i do not support an invasion of Pakistan, i support any action which will curtail the ISI’s abilities…it will go a long way in reducing terrorism within the Subcontinent and bringing true democracy within pakistan…RAW has been responsible for troubles within pakistan but it was retaliatory action…not that i justify killing of pakistani civilians but in da shadowy world of espionage there’s no room for morals….we all know who gave a start to this cloak and dagger game which began in 1947

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By: Kabir Das http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/08/01/why-choose-now-to-complain-about-pakistans-isi/comment-page-1/#comment-2214 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:23:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/08/01/why-choose-now-to-complain-about-pakistans-isi/#comment-2214 It was a very simple question to answer which has been made look complicated by the subscriber to this post by their beating about the bush ( I don’t mean President Bush or self proclaimed President Mush )

The answer to this question is as follows:

First consider the internal politics of Pakistan:

It is common knowledge in Pakistan that there is no love lost between the present ruling party, Pakistan People Party (PPP), and the military establishment of Pakistan since General Zia’s time. The PPP due to some cogent reasons holds the military establishment of Pakistan responsible for the killing of its 4 top leaders ( ZA Butto his two sons and his daughter Benazir Bhutto). It also blames the military establishment, and that also for good reasons, for the dismissal of its two democratically elected governments. The present PPP government feels, and perhaps rightly so, that if it has to rule Pakistan comfortably and complete its tenure it will first have to tame the premier spy agency of Pakistan ie ISI which is currently managed and controlled by Pakistan Army. It is very difficult for PPP to tame and bring ISI under its control. PPP feels it can achieve this with the help of America.

Now consider the American compulsions for taming of ISI:

America has always been accusing some rogue elements in ISI for leaking some vital information to the Taliban before America takes an action against them which results in the failure of their operation. American accusation against ISI has always been denied by Pakistan. However, there is a strong possibility that there are indeed such elements in ISI which both in the distant and recent pasts had very friendly and brotherly relationship with Mujahedeen and Taliban. Thus we see how the American and PPP interests in taming of ISI converge perfectly.

Now come to the timing of present action in regard to ISI:

The PPP took over the reins of government some 5 months back but is still working under the shadow of military establishment which obviously it does not like. American Presidential election is due after about 3 months for which its republican candidate desparately needs a shot in the arm since America’s performance in war on terror in Afghanistan has not been all that successful which is now an election issue.

So you see what could be a better time than this both for America and PPP to tame the ISI and show some results to their voters.

Therefore 2+2=4 QED.

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By: Moody http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/08/01/why-choose-now-to-complain-about-pakistans-isi/comment-page-1/#comment-2149 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 08:47:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/08/01/why-choose-now-to-complain-about-pakistans-isi/#comment-2149 Sanjay,

Your partisan view of India overlooks the works of its RAW agency. RAW has been nurturing chaos in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka for decades. Please don’t hide under the ubiquitos terrorism banner and plead innocent.

What you fail to grasp is the new geo-strategic ‘Great Game’ being played out. South and Central Asia is the new Middle-East. The American New World Order is 100% geared towards ensuring that a new Superpower does not emerge to challenge it hegemony.

Access and control of resources will help starve rival nations – ie China. America’s recent warmth towards India is aimed at propping up India to neuter the Chinese.

The Russians and the Chinese understand this fully – hence the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation.

I would urge you not to swallow the nonsense dished out by corporate western media.

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