One of the more troublesome aspects of the latest protests in Kashmir, among the biggest since a separatist revolt erupted in 1989, is the impact on the younger generation.
In an op-ed in the New York Times, Indian writer Pankaj Mishra writes that India’s attempt to crush the revolt in 1989 and 1990 ended up provoking many young Kashmiris to take to arms and embrace radical Islam.
“A new generation of politicized Kashmiris has now risen; the world is again likely to ignore them - until some of them turn into terrorists with Qaeda links,” he writes. Calling on India to take some first steps to ease the situation by cutting the number of troops in the Kashmir Valley and allowing Kashmiris to trade freely across the Line of Control – the military demarcation line which divides the former kingdom of Jammu and Kashmir between India and Pakistan – he says the past record does not inspire much hope.
“But a brutal suppression of the nonviolent protests will continue to radicalize a new generation of Muslims and engender a fresh cycle of violence, rendering Kashmir even more dangerous - and not just to South Asia this time,” he says.
It would be wrong to overstate the role of radical Islam in the revolt – the Kashmir Valley is primarily Sufi and the hardline brand of Wahhabi/Deobandi Islam followed by al Qaeda and the Taliban has never really managed to take root there.
And nor would it be correct to hold India alone responsible — many Pakistanis will admit privately that Pakistan played its own role in encouraging the separatist revolt, in part to use as a pawn against its much bigger neighbour.
But no amount of finger-pointing or bitter wrangling over history can take away from the fact that children who were born after the revolt erupted and grew up in violence, are now turning into teenagers as the troubles flare anew. What hope for them?
As the comments on my last post on Kashmir showed, the Kashmir question is one that still stirs powerful and divisive emotions.
There is no “quick fix” solution. The former kingdom of Jammu and Kashmir, promised a plebiscite after partition in 1947, is an intricate mosaic of different ethnic, national and religious identities, now held in parts by India, Pakistan and China, and caught between the strategic interests of all three.
It’s also hard also to see how India and Pakistan can now muster the political will to seek a solution on Kashmir when they failed to do so in the space that opened up after they agreed a ceasefire on the Line of Control at the end of 2003. In Delhi, the Congress-led government faces elections due by May next year, and would be vulnerable to accusations by the Hindu right of betraying India were it to give too much ground. Pakistan is stumbling through a chaotic transition to civilian government, whose leaders will be watched carefully by the powerful Pakistan Army for any signs of weakness in dealing with India.
But then again, what is the price of doing nothing? Children born when the Kashmir revolt erupted will be 20 next year. What will they tell their children? What legacy will they hand on to the next generation?

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Dear Indians,
If Kashmir is an integral part of India, how come only 45% of J&K State is under India. What has Govt of India done to rgain the other 55% of J&K? Nothing..Cause if they start doing anything, it will have to leave this 45% as well. It is like if you find two notes of Rs500
- Posted by Ajaz Ahmed Kashmirion the road and you pick up one note.When you were about to pikc up the other note, someone already picked up. Now you are happy with the one note cause you got it illegaly.Similarly,India did not do anything to regain the other half. That is because it knows if it tries any action,either polotical or millatry,there will be question mark on its claim over Kashmir. How many people in India know that United Nations Military Observers have a big office in the heart of Srinagar.They are not in Mumbai,bangalore, Delhi, Bihar. You have educate your country men that Kashmir is a disputed territory. I am not opposing any Kashmiri or Dogra be hold the opinion that Kashmir SHOULD be a part of India. But let us excercise this right of choice. If India has taken right measure to win the hearts and minds of Kashmiris for the last 60 yrs, probably the chances are that India will get full control of 100% Kashmir as opposed to current 45%.(Keep in mind,arrest of Sheikh Abdullah in 1953,installation of puppet Govt in Kashmir, replacement of Prime Ministership to chief Ministership in 1964,Unilateral decission of dilution of Article 370,military rule, more than 100 thousands innocents deaths by Indian forces (My three cousins included),rapes,custodial deaths,economic degradation,infrastructure, NO POWER, Indus water treaty, only to name a few)… Ajaz Kahsmiri… ajaztam@hotmail.com
Bismillah-E-Rehman-E-Rahim, Sab Hindu bhaiyo ko bhi Ram-Ram,
Terrorists O Terrorists,
WHY DONT YOU LEAVE WE MOSLEMS PEACEFULLY WITH HINDUS TOGETHER. IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS IN KASHMIR. SETTLE IT THERE. DONT COME HERE. YOUR BOMB BLASTS CREATE PANIC AND FEAR IN DELHI MOSLEMS.
HOW LONG HINDUS WILL BE PATIENT ? THEY ARE ALSO HUMANBEING. IF WE KILL A BUFFALO, EVEN HE TRIES TO ESCAPE AND FIGHT. IF HINDUS STARTED FIGHTING ALONGWITH POLICE AND ARMY THEN ?
FOR ALLAH’S SAKE, LEAVE US.
YOU EYE ABOUT HINDUSTAN, WE WILL LIKE TO SAY -
PAKISTAN TUMHARI MA*UT AAY*E..
HINDUSTAN KE DUSHMANO TUMHARI MA*UT AAY*E..
ANTAKWADIYO TUMHARI MA*UT AAY*E..
PYAR, BHAICHARA, SHANTI AUR ALLAH KE DUSHMANO TUMHARI MAU*T AAY*E..
insallah humari fatah aur hindustan ke dushmano ki shikast hogi !!!
Allah hafij
Julfikar Ali on behalf of all Delhi Muslims
- Posted by Julfikar AliMuzlis-E-Islam
New Delhi
Dear Sir,
It is sad that such biased articles ever get into prominence. Myra and Pankaj make no mention of half million Kashmiri Hindus who were ethnically cleansed and living in sub-human homes for 18 years. Have they ever visited those camps and knew what it is like living there, driven out of your home and raising generations of children in sub-human conditions.
This is not journalism, it is propaganda? I wonder if the same journalists can walk freely in Pakistan making such statements about Islam? It is better the sooner the world get rid of such journalistic trash.
Regards,
- Posted by Satya DosapatiHindu Human Rights Watch
Myra,
I’m not calling for the trifurcation of the state. Just a bifurcation. Let “Jammu and Ladakh” remain one state.
Also, it will be neither a religious division nor an ethnic one. I’m just saying that the Kashmir Valley should be separated and granted more autonomy as that is the only part of the state where there is a separatist tendency.
I agree that the philosophy of the Deobandis and Wahhabis might be similar but in fact they are two independant schools of thought. One originated in Deoband, Uttar Pradesh, the other in Saudi Arabia. Both are Islamic revivalist movements.
- Posted by VishadDeobandi did not start as an opposition to Sufism (Wahhabism did). It started as an opposition to British rule as they believed that Islam was falling behind as a result of Westernization. The Deobandis are followers of Sufism:
http://www.ahya.org/tjonline/eng/01/06ch p1.html
Dear Indians please answer mourners cries
Courtesy Raising Kashmir local daily
Srinagar, Sep 06: Asiya has dagger in heart. Not just for her elder brother fell to Police bullets outside his home, but also for his last wish – Javed Iqbal requested his sister to make custard (Firni) for Iftaar (to break holy fast) .
Myane Bayo…yita wael wael, firni ha chai tayar (O my brother…come soon the custard is ready) Asiya cried mournfully appearing to believe that Javed will come to taste the recipe she had lovingly prepared for him.
Javed was eldest of the 46-year-old Mehmooda’s two sons and a daughter.
While Asiya regrets for not offering her brother his favorite recipe, Mehmooda too is broken and her cries suggest she was waiting with dates and milk to offer a wholesome breakfast (in the evening during Ramadan) to her beloved son.
- Posted by zubairulaminJavaid, a Taxi driver by profession, is known among his friends for his liking toward snooker.
Javed had only this morning returned from a Jammu trip.
Relatives said Javaid used to help his father Abdul Majeed, a fruit seller. Majid is unable to speak. .“The biggest tragedy in a father’s life is to attend the funeral of his young son, sighed a neighbor who was trying to console Majeed.
But Javed’s mother displays belief in the life hereafter: His sacrifice will not go waste and said, His blood will fetch results for the nation.
Riyaz younger brother of Javaid was unable to speak and was just gazing at the bullet-ridden body of his elder brother.
He was just answering the slogans raised during the funeral. Shaheed Ki Jo Moot Hai - Woh Qoum Ki Hayat Hai (Death of a martyr ensures life of a nation).
“we want freedom from india” this is the voice of every kashmiri.
- Posted by anasindians might put ear plugs on keep their eyes shut but it will not change the reality.
come on india support the truth.let peace prevail.
exert some pressure on indian government to stop atrocities in kashmir.
Dear Indians & Jai
- Posted by zubairulaminLet me introduce you myself I am common Kashmiri who is alinated by your Indian illegal rule & by Indian people who don’t have courage to face the facts. I am born & bought up in Kashmir I feel each & every moment of Kashmir, I know much more then you what is happening in Kahmir. Just check this http://www.iht.com/articles/reuters/2008 /09/04/asia/OUKWD-UK-KASHMIR-PROTESTS-P OLITICAL-FEATURE-PIX-GR.php?page=1 to know the world opinon about Kashmir you people are too much ignorant if you are really curious enough about Kashmir check Daily Local paper on net http://www.greaterkashmir.com; also check http://www.iht.com; washington post etc. but you people are so busy to look dance which are broadcasted in news channels of India media who don’t have concept of Journalism. If you really want to know, even what is happening in India how poor people are suffring just have look on Arundati Roy interview in OUTLOOK but you people just want to close your eyes & like to see what Indian media is showing you come to real India where people don’t have enough money to buy a single meal.
About Kashmir I think past month you have not watched Indian media which gave little coverage to Kashmir. If you have watched news channels you might have seen how 1 million Kashmiris mached in favour of azadi to IddGah. You Indians didn’t find why Indian Govt imposed curfew for 9 days without any relaxation; for your knowledge it was call from Sepratist to march towards Lal Chowk for sit on protest but as usual Indians feel ashamed & embraced by their illegal rule to respect the people wishes so they imposed curfew. Just check todays greater kashmir you will see how Indian brutal army is aiming at a Young Chap who was martayed by the same guy. His fault was he want end of Illegal Indian rule.
Vishad,
Point taken on the people of Kargil not showing any inclination to join the Northern Areas of Pakistan, but my understanding was that the Muslims in Ladakh resented the domination of the Buddhist of Leh. In other words, once you start talking about trifurcating J&K down communal lines, don’t you create new problems for the Muslims in Jammu and Ladakh? Or are you suggesting the division could be made down ethnic, rather than religious, lines?
On Wahhabi vs Deobandi, I was using Wahhabi for al Qaeda and Deobandi for the Taliban. And I am willing to stand corrected on this, but wasn’t the Deobandi madrasa set up as a reaction against Sufism post 1857? And while there may have been little connection between the two schools historically, would you still argue that the religious ideologies of al Qaeda and the Taliban are quite different? The Taliban’s destruction of the statues at Bamian certainly looked more to be inspired by Wahhabism.
- Posted by Myra MacDonaldWell, I dont know much. But always feel that teh Kashmir issue is a issue just to keep teh feelings of being isolated, alive in the muslims.
- Posted by NeilMuslims were never more than a vote bank in India. Just use them for political gains.
If Kashmiri have brains then they would know the situation of pakistan.
Muslim brothehood would vanish once U sterv.
DEAR READERS
WHAT`S WITH THE TITLE?
PAKISTAN NOW OR NEVER?
REVOLT AGAINST INDIAN RULE?
India is a secular,democratic country
and pakistan has been under military RULE since
decades.
kashmir is a people`s dispute rather than a land
dispute
IF ALL THE PROTESTORS IN KASHMIR WANT TO BE WITH
PAKISTAN THEY SHOULD TAKE A WALK- TO POK
THEY WILL STILL BE IN KASHMIR ONLY IN A COUNTRY CALLED
PAKISTAN.
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC?
WHEN PARTITION OF INDIA & PAKISTAN HAPPENED IN 1947
HINDUS/SIKHS/PARSIS/CHRISTIANS ETC
WANTED TO BE PART OF THE NEW COUNTRY CALLED PAKISTAN
ESPECIALLY WHEN FOR EG SIKHS HAVE THEIR RELIGIOUS GURUDWARS (TEMPLES)AS SIKHISM ORIGINATED IN WHAT IS NOW
PAKISTAN,
WHO WANTS TO LEAVE THEIR LIVELIHOOD,PROSPEROUS AGRICULTRAL ANCESTRAL PROPERTIES AND UPROOTED TO A NEW
DESTINATION CALLED INDIA.
BUT MAJORITY MUSLIMS OF PAKISTAN WANTED ONLY MUSLIM ISLAMIC IDENTITY OF PAKISTAN WITH ZERO TOLERANCE OF
ANY OTHER COMMUNITY AND RELIGION .
HENCE SINCE MINORITY COMMUNITIES REFUSED TO LEAVE THEIR
HOMES ,A WAVE OF RIOTS AND VIOLENT BLOODSHED WAS
STARTED AGAINST THEM,HOUSES BURNT,WOMEN EXPLOITED AND HENCE MILLIONS OF HINDUS AND SIKHS ETC WERE FORCED TO MOVE TO INDIAN SIDE WHICH OTHERWISE COULD HAVE BEEN A PEACEFUL PARTITION.
WHY ARE KASHMIRI PEOPLE SO PAMPERED BY THE WORLD COMMUNITY AND INDIA AND PAKISTAN FOR EITHER AZADI,
AUTONOMY ,MORE PRIVILEDGES ETC.
WHY SHOULD THEY BE ASKED FOR THEIR OPINIONS?
WHO ASKED THE HELPLESS IMMIGRANTS?? IN 1947 PARTITION
WHO LOST THEIR HERITAGE IN PAKISTAN AND WERE FORCED TO
MOVE TO INDIA WHETHER THEY SHOULD BE WITH PAKISTAN/INDIA
OR TOTAL AZADI-INDEPENDENCE
MR MANMOHAN SINGH PRIME MINISTER OF INDIA IS ONE SUCH
CASUALTY OF THOSE HARD TIMES,
HE USED TO STUDY UNDER STREET LIGHTS IN DELHI AT NIGHT
AS A CHILD AS THERE WAS NO ELECTRICITY/WATER IN THE REFUGEE CAMPS WHERE HIS FAMILY WAS STAYING ,
AND THEN GO TO SCHOOL NEXT MORNING WITH HIS NIGHT STUDY
HOMEWORK.
INSTEAD OF CRYING WOLF AND WASTING LIVES,PRECIOUS TIME,
MONEY,HOW MANY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BECOMING SOMEBODY
LIKE THE INDIAN PRIME MINISTER- WHO IS KNOWN FOR HIS
EDUCATION,HUMILITY, HUMBLENESS AND WORK -ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO HIS PEOPLE & INDIA.
WHAT DOES THESE PEOPLE AFZAL AND MISS MYRA AND REUTERS?
KNOW ABOUT INDIAN HISTORY, PAIN AND SUFFERINGS OF PEOPLE
OF THIS SUBCONTINENT.
WE IN INDIA WANT KASHMIRI MUSLIMS TO BE HAPPY IN THEIR LIVES AND IF THEY FEEL THEY CAN ACHIEVE THAT AWAY FROM
INDIA ,THEY SHOULD NOT WASTE ANY TIME AND MOVE TO POK/PAKISTAN TO BE WITH THEIR OWN MUSLIM BROTHERS
BUT LAND WILL NOT GO WITH THEM AS HINDU KASHMIRI PUNDITS
,SIKHS ,BUDDHISTS ETC HAVE EQUAL RIGHT TOO!
SO DOES INDIAN DEFENCE FORCES WHO ON ORDERS OF GOVT OF INDIA HAVE LAID DOWN LIVES VOLUNATRILY ,TO PROTECT TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY OF A NATION - WHEN HALF OF THE
KASHMIRI LOCAL POPULATION RUN TO INDIAN SECURITY FORCES
TO PROTECT THEM FROM ARMED INTRUDERS COMING ACROSS THE BORDER FROM PAKISTAN AND GIVING INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION
ARMY/SECURITY OFFICERS WHO ARE ALSO -ONLY SONS OF THEIR
PARENTS,HUSBANDS WHO LEAVE PREGNANT WIVES AT HOME AND DIE
FIGHTING IN KASHMIR,
THEIR LIVES ARE SO EXPENDABLE???
A CALL CENTRE EXECUTIVE OF A UNITED STATES/UK MNC CORPORATE COMPANIES -17/18 YRS OLD IN AGE
EARNS A SALARY MORE THAN AN ARMY OFFICER IN INDIA!
ARE THESE SECURITY OFFICERS VOLUNTARILY ENLISTING THEMSELVES IN ARMY TO DIE IN KASHMIR FOR MONEY?????
EVERY NATION IN THE WORLD HAS ITS ARMY MEANT FOR EXTERNAL
AGGRESSION TO PROTECT ITS TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY
WHETHER IT IS UK/USA/FRANCE/GERMANY/RUSSIA/ISRAEL/AUST RALIA ETC.
WHY IS INDIAN ARMY AND SECURITY FORCES LABLED AS BRUTE FORCE BY NEWS COMPANIES LIKE REUTERS / BBC /WORLD MEDIA
ETC.
Aksai Chin is part of Kashmir which is with
- Posted by adleenCHINA . China has a habit of forceful acquiring of
other people`s land and property
for eg TIBET?
Rajiv,
There is a sense of alienation in Jammu. The recent protests were not just a result of allocating land or a Hindu-Muslim issue. Many muslims also joined the Hindus in the protests against Kashmiri domination.
The Kashmir-centric administration has been neglecting Jammu in order to pamper Kashmir.
Let the Kashmiris have the autonomy they want if it saves us billions of dollars and thousands of lives without giving up our territory. And let the people of Jammu and Ladakh move on without being associated with all the baggage that comes along with being clubbed with Kashmir all the time.
There is no need for Article 370 in Jammu as I dont think the people of Jammu mind if Indians buy land there or move there and contribute to their economy.
Myra,
The Balti people of Kargil have never shown any inclination to join the Northern Areas of Pakistan. They have little or no kinship to Kashmiris like you said and have little or no desire for azadi or being part of the Balawaristan separatist movement in Pakistan. At least not that I’ve ever heard off. So Kargil will remain part of India and part of the new state of Jammu and Ladakh.
There is no quick fix solution but I see this as one way to bring about a radical positive change as opposed to small bandage-solutions that serve no real purpose but to maintain the status quo.
Vishad
PS: One small correction:- You wrote “Kashmir Valley is primarily Sufi and the hardline brand of Wahhabi/Deobandi Islam followed by al Qaeda and the Taliban has never really managed to take root there”
Deobandi is completely different from Wahhabi. In fact Deobandi is a hard line Sufi school that originated in Deoband, Uttar Pradesh. Wahhabi is a Saudi movement of the Salafi school and has nothing to do with Deobandi or Sufism.
- Posted by VishadThe Taliban were in fact Deobandi or at least claim to have drawn their inspiration from the Deobandis. So technically the Taliban are also Sufi but the Deobandi school in UP claims to have little or no association with the Taliban.
Vishad, thanks for posting such a detailed comment. But if we were to follow your proposal of separating Ladakh and Jammu from the Valley, how, for example, would you deal with Kargil, currently part of Ladakh yet mainly Muslim and with closer ties historically to Baltistan than to either Srinagar or Leh? That is one of the many reasons why I said in the original post that there is no quick fix solution.
But I agree with you that the UN resolutions on Kashmir (http://www.kashmiri-cc.ca/un/) are often misquoted or misunderstood in the sense that when they were passed they were meant to apply to the whole of the former kingdom of Jammu and Kashmir.
Good to see lots of people above posting thoughtful comments which are all very welcome. For those of you leaping to judgment in anger, could you actually read the post first before you decide what you think I have said?
- Posted by myra macdonaldOh of course all Kashmiri women want to wear Jeans and of course 50% of Kashmiri men should move to Pakistan. At least this will help India’s skewed gender ratio.
And I hope that USA/United Nations and Europe would help India turn Kashmir into Switzerland so that all the ill gotten (but hard earned) money of Indian elite and other South Asian brothers can be secretly deposited in Kashmiri banks, with nice secrecy codes like Swiss banks.
And of course, Europe and USA can also give financial aid to Kashmiri women to buy made in China jeans. That would also promote friendly relations with China that already holds a big chunk of Kashmir that it took away from India after a bit of arm twisting in 1962, if memory serves me right.
I think if Indian Kashmiri citizens show their purchased jeans receipts to China, they might even consider giving back Chinese occupied Kashmir that otherwise angry Indian Hindus are too scared to talk about.
I think India should invade China and take back Chinese occupied Kashmir.
As for Mishra and Arundathi Roy: If they love Kashmiris so much I think Mishra should consider getting circumcised and Arundathi Roy can buy a shiny new veil that might even cure her writer’s block.
And Reuters, you watch out before Laxmi Mittal or Ambani brothers will buy you out. Stop talking about Kashmir Azadi stuff if you want to keep your jobs.
- Posted by Rajivdear all
I would like to finish what i started
Kashmiri local men in Indian side ARE CALLED “HATOS“
OR KHAN BABA WHO WORK IN NORTHERN INDIAN CITIES AS
COOLIES FOR EARNING A LIVING,
THEY ARE ACCEPTED AND RESPECTED FOR THEIR WORK BY INDIAN PEOPLE,
SUBSIDISED FOOD AND AMENTITES GIVEN TO KASHMIRI PEOPLE
NOBODY CAN BUY LAND IN KASHMIR, MUSLIM KASHMIRI BUY
LAND ANWHERE IN INDIA .
KASHMIR HAS REPRESENTATION IN INDIAN GOVERNANCE
AND PARLIAMENT.I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHO WILL GIVE
THEM IN PAKISTAN.
ONCE INDIAN FORCES WITHDRAW AND AZADI GIVEN TO KASHMIR INDIAN SIDE -
TALIBAN WILL FINISH ALL KASHMIRI LEADERS OF INDIAN SIDE
AND WOMEN WILL BE PUT UNDER SHARIAT LAW
AND A MISERABLE BACKWARD LIFE WILL FOLLOW FOR KASHMIRI
PEOPLE- WILL TALIBAN ALLOW INDEPENDENT
KASHMIR TO EXIST.????
WESTERN WORLD SHOULD DEFINITELY ALLOW THE ABOVE!!
DURING KARGIL IT WAS MUSLIM KASHMIRI SHEPHERDS `GUJJARS`
WHO WENT TO `BADA SAHIB` INDIAN ARMY OFFICERS CALLED IN LOCAL LANGUAGE TO REPORT
SIGHTINGS OF PAKISTANI ARMY AND MILITANT INTRUDERS FROM
ACROSS BORDER INTO INDIAN SIDE.
WHO IS AFZAL AND MR ZUBERULIAMAN MAKING A FOOL OF THIS
WORLD.?? WHAT DO YOU KNOW OF GROUND REALITY IN KASHMIR?
WHERE WERE YOU ?? WHEN INDIAN ARMY WAS HELPING
NEEDY KASHMIRI`S
IN EARTHQUAKE DISASTER AND SEVERE SNOWFALL IN 2007
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN HOMELESS AND ORPHANS KASHMIRI YOUNG
GIRLS OF POK(PAKISTAN) IN AFTERMATH OF EARTHQUAKE DISASTER WHEN THEIR PARENTS DIED ,
WERE SENT TO BROTHELS IN ACROSS PAKISTAN??
WHERE WAS MISS MYRA,?
INDIAN ARMY DOES NOT ALLOW ANY SINGLE HARDCORE MILITANT
TO EXIST IN ITS TERRITORY!
KASHMIRI PEOPLE INDIAN SIDE- MUSLIMS AND THEIR POLITICAL PARTIES EG PDP ,SEPARATISTS IF YOU STOP AIDING AND ABETTING ,HIDING
TALIBAN & PAKISTAN ARMY MILITANTS AND YOUR OWN INNOCENT YOUNG MEN TURNED MILITANTS IN THE NAME OF JIHAD!KILLING YOUR OWN CHILDREN!
INDIAN SECURITY FORCES WILL NOT USE ANY KIND OF FORCE
AGAINST LOCAL POPULATION.
IT DOES NOT HAPPEN IN JAMMU IN NORTH INDIA (J&K STATE )BECAUSE NO HINDU FAMILY HIDES OF HELPS ANY MILITANTS!
KASHMIRI ROGUE ELEMENTS WILL NEVER ALLOW ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT FROM INDIA WHICH INDIA WOULD LIKE TO DO
AS FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTRY
WHEN I WENT TO KASHMIR IN 1988
IT WAS BEAUTIFUL ,OPEN AND FREE SOCIETY ,
NOW IT IS BACKWARD , WOMEN IN KASHMIR WERE NEVER SIGHTED
WEARING BLACK BURQA`S OR VEILS IN PUBLIC.
GET SOME EDUCATION ON KASHMIR!
- Posted by jaiWHAT IS PAKISTAN/AZADI OFFERING KASHMIR ???
Vishad: You write ”The people of Jammu and Ladakh feel alienated by the Kashmiris and would prefer to be an integral part of India without having things like Article 370 etc imposed upon them.”
What makes you think that people feel article 370 is ”imposed” on them? It already grants autonomy to Kashmir, in letter. Granting autonomy is not an act of imposition. But regardless of article 370, in reality Kashmir is a police and military state.
Though your intentions to bring peace to Kashmir region are good, I’m afraid that right wing Hindu nationalist politics of political parties like BJP will never let that happen. If India wanted to grant autonomy to Kashmir and leave Kashmiris alone it would respect article 370. But as it is BJP has been crying loud for long to actually scrap article 370.
Nice words got no use if they have no will or actions that must go along with them.
- Posted by Rajivhello,
1)who will listen to aspirations of kashmiri people who
want to be with democratic India ?
MR MISHRA IS THE BIGGEST IDIOT SO IS ARUNDHATI ROY!
THE FACT IS 50% KASHMIRI MUSLIM POPULATION WANTS TO VOTE FOR INDIA.
KASHMIRI WOMEN WANT TO BE WITH INDIA AS THEY ARE RAPED AND EXPLOITED BY MILITANTS WHO CROSS THE LOC BORDER
AND THEN NOBODY CRIES `HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS`
NO REDUCTION IN SECURITY FORCES - IF THE WORLD ALLOWS THE CONCEPT OF AZAD KASHMIR IT WILL BE BIGGEST MILITANT TRAINING BASE IN THE WORLD WITH NO INTERNATIONAL AUTHORITY- AS POK HAS HUNDREDS OF MILITANT CAMPS ALONG LOC.
IF YOU WANT IT GO AHEAD REUTERS!!!!
WHO IS REUTERS TO SAY KASHMIRI POPULATION REVOLTED AGAINST INDIAN RULE 1989- WHAT INDIAN RULE?????/
WATCH OLD INDIAN HINDI BOLLYWOOD MOVIES- EG
`KASHMIR KI KALI` ACTRESS SHARMILA TAGORE/SHAMMI KAPOOR!!! KASHMIRI PEOPLE WERE HAPPY WITH INDIA
PAKISTAN EXPLOITED THEIR MUSLIM IDENTITY WITH MONEY!!!
PAKISTAN WAS CARVED OUT OF ANCIENT INDIAN HINDU CIVILISATION TO CREATE A MUSLIM STATE IN 1947
KASHMIR EXISTED WHEN THERE WAS NO SUFISM/PERSIAN INFLUENCE
EG- AMARNATH CAVES - HINDU PILGRIMAGE !!!
IF TOMMORROW MAJORITY MUSLIM POPULATION OF THE INDIAN STATE OF UTTAR PRADESH SAYS WE DO NOT WANT INDIAN RULE
WILL MR MISHRA CARVE ANOTHER PORTION OF INDIAN LAND AND GIVE AZADI/OR TO PAKISTAN??????????????
ONLY SOLUTION IS TO PARTITON INTO PAKISTAN AND INDIAN
KASHMIR- PEOPLE WHO VOTE FOR PAKISTAN SHOULD SEND ACROSS
TO POK AND INDIAN KASHMIRI MUSLIMS TO BE INDIAN CITIZENS
WITH IDENTITY CARDS.
YOUNG KASHMIRI WOMEN WANT TO WEAR JEANS! NOT BURQA?VEIL?
BUT DO NOT SAY FOR FEAR OF BEING KILLED!
INDIA BELIEVES IN ECONOMIC PROGRESS AS KNOWN TO THE WORLD AND KASHMIR CAN BE RECREATED AS PARADISE ON EARTH
NOBODY IS REALISING THE FACT THAT A BEAUTIFUL BIODIVERSITY IS BEING DESTROYED IN A SENSELESS WAR!!!!!
IT CAN BE MADE SWITZERLAND OF INDIA WITH HELP OF USA/EUROPE AND UNITED NATIONS.
IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED TO SAVE KASHMIR- KASHMIRIAT
AND INDIGEANOUS CULTURE AND PEOPLE OF KASHMIR.
WHO IS ARUNDHATI ROY? SHE IS SO LAZY ! HAS NOT WRIITEN ANY OF HER WORKS SINCE LAST BOOKER PRIZE-HER PERSONAL LIFE -NO STABLE RELATIONSHIP ? HER MOTTO OF LIFE
- Posted by Teena“LET GO “ OF EVERYTHING FOR EG such as KASHMIR“!!!
Myra,
I think this issue is a lot more complicated than just letting Kashmir be free or not.
Firstly, let us realize that we are dealing with the state of Jammu and Kashmir and not just Kashmir.
The people of Jammu and Ladakh (Hindu, Muslim and Buddhist) have no desire for azadi or joining Pakistan and have shown no such tendency in the past.
So-called “Azad Kashmir” is neither Azad nor Kashmir. It is completely controlled by the Pakistani establishment and it is illegal according to the Azad Kashmir constitution to speak against Pakistani rule.
It is not really Kashmir either as only a handful of the population is ethnic Kashmiri. Most people there are Punjabis and Pathans and do not speak Kashmiri at all.
The Northern Areas of Pakistan are not really “Kashmir” either.
That leaves just the Kashmir Valley.
Can the valley really survive as an independent state? You yourself quoted Vir Sanghvi’s column in which he mentions the billions of dollars that India showers upon Kashmir just to maintain some sort of stability.
I suggest the following solution (let me know what you think) :
1) Separate Jammu and Ladakh from the Valley. The people of Jammu and Ladakh feel alienated by the Kashmiris and would prefer to be an integral part of India without having things like Article 370 etc imposed upon them.
Make Jammu and Ladakh a separate state.
2) Make the Kashmir valley more autonomous. Have democracy at the grass roots like in the rest of India by setting up panchayats in villages rather than the Srinagar having to meddle with local affairs inefficiently. I think the Hurriyat should take a more active role in state affairs instead of crying for azadi all the time.
3) Open up the border to trade with Muzzafarbad. This is key as Swaminathan Aiyar says that the traditional trade route to Srinagar was via Rawalpindi and not Jammu.
4) Reduce troop presence everywhere except the border areas. Give peace a chance. If violence erupts India can bring troops back in.
5) Make special concessions and declare the Kashmiri Pandits as a protected minority and relocate them into the Valley. This will boost Kashmir’s economy and will make peace with right-wing Hindu groups in India.
6) Go ahead with the healing touch method as suggested by the PDP by allowing former terrorists to surrender, grant them amnesty and allow them to contest elections.
Let’s face it. India is not going to just let go of Kashmir so easily. Kashmiris are not going to stop demanding Azadi. And i seriously doubt whether Kashmir will really be able to survive as an independent nation. So how about a mid-way solution that in the long run may benefit everyone?
- Posted by VishadzZubairulamin: I think we can safely assume that ”Mr. Mayr” is a girl. So it is ok to address her as Ms. Myra.
- Posted by RajivI understand the frustrations of Indians - both from Kashmir and not from Kashmir (well maybe Kashmiris don’t consider themselves Indians)
- Posted by GovindHowever I completely disagree with the author’s suggestion on plebiscite as she has proposed. I agree that in 1947, J&K was promised a plebiscite and yes, it should be held. But it should not be held only in Indian Kashmir. If there has to be a fair judgement, both India and Pakistan should withdraw from their respective regions and the plebiscite should be held in the whole of Kashmir.
Pakistan has to dismantle the terrorist camps in PoK and allow peace a chance before any such step is taken (there is ample evidence of PoK based militants operating in India, hope the author and the “freedom-fighters” admit it)
On the point about a new generation of youth turning into terrorists, let me remind the readers that people in India too have been killed in thousands in the numerous bomb blasts over the past two decades. There is a lot of frustration among Indians as well – in spite of pumping billions of rupees in Kashmir, what we always get back is constant acquisitions and terror in our own cities. I don’t deny there have been excesses but the media should also acknowledge what deep shit Kashmir’s economy would be in without India.
Also, I do accept we have not been always right on plebiscite issue but why is no one asking Pakistan to take responsibility as well. If there has to be a plebiscite, it has to happen in the whole of Kashmir when both India and Pakistan withdraw from their respective regions. Can Pakistan guarantee that it will not play dirty in future and start claiming parts of Punjab, Rajasthan or other bordering states?
If the US & UK feel threatened, they are very well allowed to go and bomb Afghanistan and Iraq. Am not saying we should do the same but at least the world has to be fair in its judgement before criticising a nation.
As far as Kashmiris are concerned, they are very well welcome to opt for ‘freedom’ if they wish, we will atleast save billions and stop the bombs. But I am sure they know if they do so, economically they are doomed. See the below link for a brilliant article by Gurcharan Das on Kashmiri choice
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Opini on/Columnists/Gurcharan_Das/Kashmiri_cho ice/articleshow/3397892.cms
Dear Myra
- Posted by zubairulaminI really appreciate the way Mr. Mayr has put forward the Kashmir case but unfortunately Indian people are too much ignorant they know very little about history. Of course they are emerging power but they are No. 1 nation in poverty even behind Africa as per recent Indian media reports. From recent polls which was published in TOI the question was posed, Should India keep Kashmir even though against wishes of Kashmiri people? And response was amazing 78% voted yes so what does it mean, kill oh sorry i should use word bombard or even worst to make Kashmir integral part of India which is day dreaming we Kashmiris are fighting & we will fight till Indian brutal force is out of Kashmir.
To refresh Indian people knoweldge if you want to see the real secularism come to Kashmir where not even single Yatri was touched while Amarnath row was going on but inspite of this what Kashmir got they were economically triangulated & when they protested Indian brutal force fired on them at point blank range, media was totally banned, Kashmiri leaders were put behind bars with all draconian laws imposed on them. Kashmir was put under curfew round the clock for 9 days to save democratic face of India. the very recent look of Indian democracy was visible during Amarnath crisis, 45 innocent Kashmiri were martyred while they were making peaceful march & in Jammu few were injured during violent protest which was evident from economical blocked & burnt wound of Kashmiri’s travelling through Jammu. And let me also tell you indians Kashmiri pandits were not drawn out of Kashmir by any Kashmiri muslim but it was Indian governer Jagmohan who advised them to flew to secure their children future.
So all those who posed finger on Mayr should come to Kashmir & see the real picture of Indian so called democracy if you dear to see the truth. Well you Indians check your print media you will come to know how much India is democratic. To all you Indians democracy mean by the people, for the people but in case of Kashmir the meaning is different just change word people by Indian government.
We will achive our goal by the grace of Allah who is mighter of mightest. So what India have Nuclear bomb, USA & Israel friend but we belive in Allah who is one & alone Mighter & powerful.