Comments on: Is Pakistan’s war against militants India’s too? http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/10/10/is-pakistans-war-against-militants-indias-too/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Umair http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/10/10/is-pakistans-war-against-militants-indias-too/comment-page-1/#comment-4489 Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:58:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/10/10/is-pakistans-war-against-militants-indias-too/#comment-4489 Nikhil Sharma
Wow, i liked your comments. Sure let India destablize as well, why only Pakistan. Tell you one thing, Pakistan is still in pretty good shape and taking care of itself. Its not so easy to destabilize this country. As for nukes, rented or owned they remain with Pakistan. If you want to point a nuke towards pakistan then remember you could also be nuked. Shut your rhetoric and open your eyes. In any future conflict India stands to loose big. Better dont pick a fight with Pakistan. Last but not the least F*ck You.

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By: Nikhil Sharma http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/10/10/is-pakistans-war-against-militants-indias-too/comment-page-1/#comment-4475 Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:28:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/10/10/is-pakistans-war-against-militants-indias-too/#comment-4475 Again, it should be obvious to everyone that the ‘easing tensions’ bit is true until Pakistan can get more funds from US and get back to its old ways of sending terrorists into India (hell, they are still doing it).

You call a Talibanised Pakistan a ‘fall of defence’ for India? Well, depends on who is looking at the big picture with whose eyes. From mine, it is a blessing. Talibanised Pakistan gives an open excuse for US and even India to goto war and finish the job once and for all. Hell, it’s not like we aren’t getting Paki’s donation of their brave terrorists every few days anyway. Might as well goto war and destroy the enemy.

Besides, who says that the recent attacks inside Pakistan are the act of terrorists only? Any proof? (no, terrorists claiming them doesn’t matter.. who is filling their pockets does).

Either way, I say let Pakistan destabalise and let the war games begin. They are proud of their stolen.. err.. rented nukes from Chinese, the thing they can’t risk using or it will be just instant annihilation for them in the end.

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By: Om http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/10/10/is-pakistans-war-against-militants-indias-too/comment-page-1/#comment-4435 Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:44:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/10/10/is-pakistans-war-against-militants-indias-too/#comment-4435 Lets not forget, People of pakistan support Bin laden and adore Taliban..Indian support at this stage to pakistani govt, will be viewed at a different angle by pakistani majority illitrate..it will simply increase the divide..just like hatred for US among pakistanis..
Time may come for India to poke in..when the fight between pakistanis and taliban and allies has grown to peak and maximum lives lost..only after that will pakistanis, be it punjabis or others in pakistan realise they have nothing left but to go along with India.

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By: IntelliBriefs http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/10/10/is-pakistans-war-against-militants-indias-too/comment-page-1/#comment-4431 Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:53:35 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/10/10/is-pakistans-war-against-militants-indias-too/#comment-4431 Pak now the world’s top suicide bomb death capital: CSM
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Fri, Oct 10 01:05 PM

New York, Oct.10 (ANI): Pakistan has overtaken Iraq and Afghanistan in suicide-bomb deaths this year, its intelligence agency reports.

Suicide bomb attacks have spiked in Pakistan, from two in 2002 to a record 56 in 2007, according to the Institute for Conflict Management, based in New Delhi. As of August of this year, the country had seen 25 suicide-bomb attacks, ICM reports.

In a grim indicator of the rise in attacks, according to Pakistan’s intelligence agency, this year Pakistan has overtaken Iraq in suicide-bomb deaths.

It counted 28 suicide bombings in Pakistan that killed more than 471 people in the first eight months of this year. By comparison Iraq saw 42 such attacks and 463 deaths; Afghanistan, 36 incidents and 436 casualties.

According to the Christian Science Monitor (CSM), Thursday’s suicide bomb attack at the headquarters of the Anti-terrorism Squad of the Islamabad police force, has added to the rise in bomb attacks in Pakistan.

The CSM quotes Hassan Askari Rizvi, former professor of Pakistan Studies at Columbia University, as saying: “The message [from Thursday’s attack] couldn’t have been clearer. The militants want to show that they have the capacity to hit Pakistani institutions – even those ones trusted with the responsibility of protecting the rest.”

According to the CSM, Pakistan needs more than political will to deal with these attacks.

“Pakistan will need to improve its counterterrorism abilities. Most of the time there is no claim of responsibility, and investigations don’t uncover much. Unless we have concrete information on where this is coming from and why, it will be a hard fight to fight,” it quotes Khalid Rahman of the Institute of Policy Studies in Islamabad, as saying. (ANI)

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By: IntelliBriefs http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/10/10/is-pakistans-war-against-militants-indias-too/comment-page-1/#comment-4429 Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:17:03 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/10/10/is-pakistans-war-against-militants-indias-too/#comment-4429 Exactly 8 years back Robert Kaplan wrote a masterly piece about state of Pakistan in Atlantic Online , (The Lawless Frontier , September 2000) cited collapse of state institutions and forces are determined to redraw the borders . One expert said “Pakistan is now a state on the verge of collapse. …. the State of Pakistan is being overwhelmed by forces of history and geography. A state with less than a tenth the resources of India, Pakistan is forced to fight insurgencies on its frontiers perhaps ten times as great as in Kashmir. It is only a matter of time before the institutions of the state totally breakdown”.
Punjab is scared of borderland provinces who are hostile to Punjabi regime.

GEOSTRATEGIC REALITY : “…historic pattern previously alluded to. Whenever there was a weak state in the Punjab region, it has fallen before invaders from the northwest. This was the case when it was invaded by Darius, Muhammad of Ghazni, Timur, Babar and Nadir Shah. On the other hand, whenever the Punjab was part of a powerful state, it has turned back the invader. This is what happened when the Greeks, the Huns and Afghans in the time of Ranjit Singh tried to invade the planes”

SOLLUTION FOR PAKISTAN PUNJABIS :

“Saving Punjab is as much India’s responsibility as it is Pakistan’s. India cannot let these invading forces cross the Indus and turn West Punjab into a wasteland. The only way for Punjab to survive is to let the frontier be frontier and rejoin India? its natural home. But is the Punjabi ruling elite capable of such vision? As one Pakistani (Punjabi) journalist told Kaplan, “We have never defined ourselves in our own right ? only in relation to India. That is our tragedy.” This attitude represents a historic truth: Punjab is India or it is happy hunting ground for the frontier tribes. If the Punjabis do not cure themselves of their hatred, it may soon lead to an even greater tragedy? of Afghanistan consuming Pakistan itself. Punjabis should see for themselves that Pakistan is a fantasy that died the day Bangladesh broke away. They should also recognize that the Punjabis never asked for Pakistan; the people who planted that poison seed remained in India. And the same people ? of the Deoband School of Lucknow ? planted also the poison seed that grew to be Taliban.”

“The choice for the Punjabis of Pakistan is clear. Forces of history and geography are against them. They can return to their natural home in India as the proud citizens of a great power or continue their sordid existence as a client state that can be hired by a patron whenever a dirty job needs to be done. But even this is precarious and short-lived existence. For all its bombast, Pakistan ? its Punjabi core at least ? is today little more than a buffer state between India and the violent frontier. Once they become part of India, they will have a great power to defend them against the hordes. One hopes they recognize the inexorability of the logic: it is India or oblivion, there is no middle ground.”

“For India the option is clear. Pakistan as it exists today is facing a meltdown. Changes of government and leaders will not turn back the elemental forces now in play. And negotiations and treaties with a melting state are meaningless. As India becomes a great power, the Pakistani Punjab and the land east of the Indus River will inexorably be drawn into India. And the Indus River will again be its natural boundary. There will be many challenges, but the goal is clear: to minimize the damage and destruction during this historic reunion, which I now feel is inevitable. In summary, India can no longer afford the luxury of being a soft state, continuing to avoid hard decisions and actions. A soft state at this critical juncture in history may also face a meltdown like Pakistan.

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