Pakistan:reasons to be anxious or reasons to be alarmed?

November 21, 2008

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The International Institute for Strategic Studies released a note  this week looking at the security, political and economic crises afflicting Pakistan.

For Pakistan watchers there was not much new, though the tenor of the note, despite its title “Pakistan on the Brink”, was a little less alarmist than other commentators, many of whom fear a nuclear armed state becoming a failed state.

As bad as things are, the IISS said:

– Pakistan is not in danger of becoming a militant Islamist state
– Pushtun extremists are not representative of all Pushtun tribes, still less other Pakistani communities
– Regardless of whether some Pakistani officials or associates may be helping the Afghan Taliban, there is no evidence that the Pakistan army’s structure has been weakened
– And that, partly as a result of U.S. mentoring, security arrangements around Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal are sound.

The IISS says that if the security, political and economic situation were to deteriorate seriously the Pakistan army would reluctantly step in to take control. That’s cold comfort to all those who see the army’s repeated interventions to uproot democracy, and its grip on foreign policy, as Pakistan’s core problem. And governments with troops in Afghanistan would like a Pakistan army that unequivocally regarded the Afghan Taliban — not just al Qaeda and the Pakistani Taliban — as an enemy, rather than an asset that could still be used to gain influence in Kabul and counter Indian regional hegemony.

The IISS does conclude that Western leaders should continue to worry. But perhaps people are getting used to Pakistan being on the brink?

(File photo of Pakistani troops in Bajaur)

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Some one has lost his mind..
@”Pakistan is not in danger of becoming a militant Islamist state”
What do you call a place where government asks its people to become Islamic militias to fight and hands them over automatic guns and equips them to fignt ?

Posted by Om | Report as abusive

Keep calling Pakistan “failed state” since its birth 61 yrs ago seems more like a wishful thininkg and not a reality

Posted by Sherdil malik | Report as abusive

Sit tight, despite all the challenges faced by Pakistan in todays globalized world, it has always emerged stronger and more united.

Posted by Umair Malik | Report as abusive

Zardari says pakistan was a failed state during prior to zardari govt because of mistakes made by previous leaders, so he has gone begging frensy to re-build the nation. nawab sharif says there is no change in zardari’s govt from previous Musharaf’s rule.
So pakistan has been a failed state in the past, is a failed state now and will be a failed state in future in own words of its leaders.

Posted by Om | Report as abusive

pakistan is not a failed state its just surrounding by evil neighbours e.g hindustan or india which is a failed nation in its own right with 700 million living in slums and 40% of its children dying of hunger india has only had one thing on its mind since 61 years and thats to attack and destroy pakistan

Posted by Bilal | Report as abusive

Pakistan on the brink !
The International Institute for Strategic Studies— some more excerpts.

“Zardari On a visit to Washington in October, he described Islamic militants in Kashmir as terrorists, This will have pleased the US government,”

“The fiscal deficit rose to 7.5% of GDP, inflation to 25%, and the currency has depreciated by more than 20% since the start of the year. Foreign investment has dried up and investors have sought to withdraw their assets.”
“senior officials responsible for finance have been shuffled several times since the elections and there have been five ministers in a year.”
“ordinary Pakistanis are seriously affected by food and fuel price rises, such as a 31% rise in electricity prices, and by lengthy power cuts.”
“Zardari asked the US for $100bn during his recent Washington visit.”
“Pakistan had asked the IMF for a $7.6bn loan.”
“Pakistan had pressed Saudi Arabia to defer payments for oil imports and hopes the Saudis might again forgive its debt. Visiting Beijing in October, Zardari also tried to secure funds from China, which built the Karakorum highway, developed the port of Gwadar and previously supplied nuclear-weapons technology and missiles. However, China proved unwilling to ease this latest crisis.’
The United Kingdom, for example, is concerned about links between the large British Pakistani community and sponsors of terrorism in the FATA.”

Posted by Indian | Report as abusive

Failure of Pakistan or balkanisation shall seriously impact south asia geo-political stability. It is in the interest of US & Europe as well as India to see that Pakistan is stable.
Leaders , Army and flawed policies failed Pakistan and the people are more divided now on support to Taliban 7 US war on terror. In the years to come Pak will be an handfull for international community owing to its nuclear arsenal & links to islamic terroism around the world.
Unless the people of Pakistan take this chance and support the fight against terror at home …else they are digging their own graves.

Posted by Srinivasan | Report as abusive

Internationally, Pakistan is recognized as a potential failing state. With its foreign currency reserves in tatters, its unenviable position as the worlds millitant haven, and its lack lustre economy and zero contribution to the world economy puts it squarely opposite to a free, democratic, economic and military rising power India.

With its myriads of problems, Pakistan is circling down the drain, and instead of acting as a thorn in everyone’s side, it should either acknowledge India’s immensely superior position as a global leader and a bastion of freedom and stability in South Asia or join hands with it by junking its outdated and immature “bash india feel good” policy that its been following for decades.

Indians do NOT compete with PAkistan anymore. India’s competing with Winner economies of China and south east asia. Its a certain global leader and it would be in Pakistans best interest to follow in its footsteps or collapse under its own staggering weight

Posted by Aztec | Report as abusive

Pakistan came into existence based purely upon Islam as religion. Religion could not keep Pakistan united and in 1971 East Pakistan became another free nation as Bangladesh. Time is not too far when Blauchistan and Pushtun areas get broken away. Indian Muslims have done much better economically than average Pakistani or Bangladeshi muslims. India has some of the richest muslims in the world. India has no ill will against Pakistan and its other way round. Pakistan will break for her own reasons and not because of India. Pakistanis have hardly worked on nationa building in last 61 years except creating Jihadis and going around asking for financial aid. Indians have no competition whatso ever with Pakistan. High time Pakistan puts her house in order if at all she wants to survive as a nation.

Posted by Karzai | Report as abusive

Friends, let me tell you something:

1. PAKISTAN,for the first five and a half decades of its existence,a superior GDP per capita than india

2. PAKISTAN has defeated india in two wars(47 & 65)

3. PAKISTAN,for the first five and a half decades of its existence, had a superior cricket team to hindustan

So;please,to all the indians coming here & lecturing us;spare us the nonsense. India itself has been a prime exponent of state terror,through its:

(a) Massacre of Kashmiris (Google “Kashmir mass graves Amnesty International”)

(b) Support of terror outfits in PAKISTAN,such as the MQM

(c) Support of seccessionist movements,such as the Baloch Liberation Army

(d) Support of miscreants & mischief makers in FATA & NWFP.

How DARE any indians lecture us on cross-border interference,when they have been doing EXACTLY the same to PAKISTAN? Indians lecturing us on cross-border interference,is like Pablo Escobar telling us not to export cocaine. ‘Nuff said!

Posted by Qasim Awan | Report as abusive

Respected Mr Karzai, I will be highly grateful, if u can kindly throw some light on few of ur following comments:

1. Time is not too far when Blauchistan and Pushtun areas get broken away (substantiate with reliable facts/comments, plz no wishful thinking).

2. Indian Muslims have done much better economically than average Pakistani or Bangladeshi muslims(substantiate with reliable statistics)

3. India has no ill will against Pakistan (Plz read history of Kashmir, 1971 war and Indian role in it, read India PM Indra Ghandhi statement after 1971 war about two nation theory, 1987 BrassTack exercise cum attack plan)

I would appreciate ur comments but plz be an academic, no emotions. I would love every criticism but should be based on facts. Thanks

the mere suggestion of saying pakistan should have to concede anything to india is a joke. no nation regardless of how strong or how weak their economy or military is should have to concede anything to anyone. yes Pakistan has a long list of problems. but let’s not forget this country became a country over night only a 60 years ago.it takes many decades an even a century or two for a country to be able to weed out its many problems. indians act as if their country was not a backwards civilization for thousands of years. it was after hundreds of years of british rule and after they were able to over come that they have arrived to this point.let’s also not forget the fact that india prides itself on being able to bring down pakistan as a way to make itself look better and kiss up to rest of the world. yes indians have accomplished alot but they are not worthy of any country having to kiss up to them. Pakisan has a long way to go before they are able improve the condition of their country but there is no reason for them to have to concede anything to India.

Posted by john | Report as abusive

Pakistan is a country built on a pathological hatred of Hindus. A country build and bound together only by hatred cannot survive. Hindus were the ones who were genocided ,butchered for centuries and their dignity taken away. Pakistan has been living on handouts from from Saudi and the U.S. There is nothing productive built from Pakistan. If Pakistan wants to rant and rave about Kashmir, then Balochistan should become separate, Sindh, Punbjab and NWFP, all of those respective areas should also become their own countries or join with Iran, Afghanistan, etc…

The establishment in Pakistan as well as all the Pak people know that it is the end of their country, if they end the pathological hatred of the Hindus.

Posted by Rick | Report as abusive

Pakistan is a country built on a pathological hatred of Hindus.

A country build and bound together only by hatred cannot survive. Hindus were the ones who were genocided ,butchered for centuries and their dignity taken away.

Pakistan has been living on handouts from from Saudi and the U.S. There has been nothing productive built from Pakistan, except blame on others, just like a small child who does not understand its own behavior.

If Pakistan wants to rant and rave about Kashmir, then Balochistan should become separate, Sindh, Punbjab and NWFP, all of those respective areas should also become their own countries or join with Iran, Afghanistan, etc…along cultural similarities, so why the double standard with Kashmir?

The establishment in Pakistan as well as all the Pak people know that it is the end of their country, if they end the pathological hatred of the Hindus. The ISI, military and most of the population fuel their existence through hatred, jealousy and blame.

The myth has no honor or integrity. It should be disarmed first and then disintegrated by the U.N.

India is poised to become a super power because of hard work, determination, perseverence and taking responsibility for its actions. India only attacked when attacked and never instigated any war with any body.

The truth hurts. Take a look into yourself.

Posted by Rick | Report as abusive

to rick since you seem to be a hindu facist let me tell you something it is hindu india which is hell bent on the destruction of pakistan which it hates because the muslims got there freedom from hellish hindus like you india is poised to have the most starving population by 2020 look into your food plate then start barking like the rest of your radical hindu bjp monkeys lol look at your country its hatred and jelousy of pak is so clear it hurts

Posted by Bilal | Report as abusive

Bilal,

It is pakistan which would be starving i mean no ( will there be pakistan ) since balchistan,sindh would want their independance from you during that time.

Wake up to the fact that it is better to starve than to feed yourself with money from other countries.

Posted by Vijay | Report as abusive

Dear Vijay

I have requested Mr Karzai also to quote some facts from a renowned unbaised writer preferably not from Pakistanor India to support your wishful thinking. The problem which I understand is that ur media is too much busy in misguiding the people about Sind or Baluchistan. if u really wanna be informed then search urself. Or if u wanna rtemain holding anti Pakistan mantra all the times then no one can help u out. I don’t mind if u speak for India but just be sure and truthful so that ur comments should be rtespected. Regards and Bye

To my Indian friend Vijay

Since last six decades Indian politicians, media and intelligentsia seems to be acting part of an age long campaign to demonize Pakistan, a failed state plagued with terrorism and at the verge of a collapse. At the same time, theses elements are quick to remind how India in all these years has risen as the world’s largest secular democracy, where people of all castes, religions, color and creed co exist in harmony. Of course it all sounds very remarkable. But if truth is to be told, this impression of Incredible India couldn’t be more erroneous. Let me quote William Dalrymple’s a respected British historian renowned for his expertise in Sub Continent history. His latest book. , The Last Mughal: The Fall of a Dynasty, Delhi 1857, has been awarded the Duff Cooper prize for history. On 14 Aug 2007, he writes in GUARDIAN, under the heading “The ‘poor’ neighbour” (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/au g/14/pakistan.india1)

William Dalrymple, notes, “In the world’s media, never has the contrast between the two countries appeared so stark: one is widely perceived as the next great superpower; the other written off as a failed state” ….He further adds, “On the ground, of course, the reality is different and first-time visitors to Pakistan are almost always surprised by the country’s visible prosperity. There is far less poverty on show in Pakistan than in India, fewer beggars, and much less desperation. In many ways the infrastructure of Pakistan is much more advanced: there are better roads and airports, and more reliable electricity. Middle-class Pakistani houses are often bigger and better appointed than their equivalents in India. Moreover, the Pakistani economy is undergoing a construction and consumer boom similar to India’s, with growth rates of 7%, and what is currently the fastest-rising stock market in Asia”.

I agree that all is not good in Pakistan. There are lot of issues. You ppl are also having issues. Although, the nature of problems of the both countries is different. We need to accept it and try best to build our respective countries to the best of our abilities.

the actual problem with the Hindus is the accute sense of deprivation and low self-esteem caused by the pesistant and prolonged slavery and degradation. Often ruled by the great Muslim and somtime by the Farangis. the egoism manifested against muslim is natural. they are, influenced by their natural meanness, always looking for some failed opportunities to bash their ex-rulers. But all this crying does no favour to them as the pplz around the world are not blind. They know very well abt their nature and not ready to be trapped by thier mean prpaganda.
Pakistan Zindabad

Posted by Shayan | Report as abusive

I do not know what is fed to all these indians, because they all are saying things for which their exist no evidence only media news which we see on TV and press is again repeated here. What makes them think Pakistan is involve in terror attacks in India. One question that I am asking all indians that ok if you say it is Pakistan tell us one thing was their navy sleeping when ten people were crossing border, hijacking boat and killing their people. Further, everybody watched the CCTV video of police being hidden behind some pillar, I agreed police doesn’t have weapons to fight, but they could have call with any phone, why didn’t they do that. Please stop raising finger on Pakistan, and start revamping yourself and think out of box – Peace is the only solution.

One more thing don’t even think of harming prosperity of Pakistan – the country of great nation – because this will never happen. india had tried it earlier through element of RAW in Karachi, now this false propaganda on media, this dream of your will never come true.

Posted by Peace | Report as abusive

Indian media has posted pictures of so-called terrorist and say they were muslims and from Pakistan, however the truth is otherwise because the picture clearly shows terrorist was wearing thread band on his right hand which is symbol of hinduism and they wear it to have success in their mission.

Posted by Peace | Report as abusive