Comments on: Battleground India but Delhi clueless? http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/11/27/battleground-india-but-delhi-clueless/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Akshaya http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/11/27/battleground-india-but-delhi-clueless/comment-page-1/#comment-8101 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:29:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=973#comment-8101 I am sorry to say that most of this INFORMED debate is also unfortunately limited to criticizing the government. Not a single post has managed to suggest a strategy for countering the terror threat. My attempt is so suggest such a strategy.

To fight terror – three possible strategies come to mind. The first is use of total military campaign the like of which was tried in Algeria by France and by Russia in Chechanya. This leads to a military victory byt a political defeat. The second strategy is to denationalize security and allow the possible victims to arrange for their own security. The kind that was tried in Somalia, Democratic Republic of Congo and some other African and South American states. This leads to a proliferation of weapons and the power that is linked to the barrel of the gun. Invariably it leads to creation of warlords and civil war. The third option is to target the space and support for indoctrination, training and activity. In this the supporters of the terrorists have to be targeted at par with the terrorists. The kind that was tried in Malaya against Communist rebels and Punjab. I would suggest that India takes a conscience decision to adopt the third.

Implementing it on ground would involve the following steps.

One, pass a legislation under which the nation reserves the right to declare another nation as a supporter of terrorism. If any nation is so designated India reserve the right to impose economic sanction against it. The said sanctions should not only bar any national trade with the said state but also bar any companies which are trading with the said nation to trade with India or Indian companies. The aim being to impose an economic threat based on the size of the national market, to virtually strangulate the opponents economy. It is presumed that with our size companies would have to chose India no matter in which industry they operate. This would crush the opponents domestic economy and generate internal pressure against supporting terrorism.

Two, join all international forums which support blocking funds to such organizations. A number of such organizations have been created post 9/11 but sadly India has chosen to remain away from them. Simultaneously tighten domestic laws to not allow unknown money to enter the country. Instruments like PN notes etc would then be history. Know your customer schemes would have to be diligently enforced and then accountability of the branch assistants increased.

Three, an instrument to target the active supporters of terrorism under what ever name – POTA, TADA, MOCOCA, etc – has to be implemented throughout the country.

Four, speedy and time bound justice in terror cases by daily sittings of the courts would add effective teeth to the laws.

If implemented, these would constitute adequate deterrence against terrorism. The other suggestions like strengthening the security forces etc would have to be implemented concurrently to enable response to any such act.

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By: Indian http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/11/27/battleground-india-but-delhi-clueless/comment-page-1/#comment-8040 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:19:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=973#comment-8040 John W
‘Always ask “who benefits?” before immaturely blaming people’

–Maybe malicious liars & self-syled ‘holier than Thou’ moral brigadiers like you…

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By: John W http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/11/27/battleground-india-but-delhi-clueless/comment-page-1/#comment-8030 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:02:21 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=973#comment-8030 Reading these comments, it is very clear there is sheer ignorance on both sides. I wonder whether these readers are immigrants in countries like the UK or the US where their ignorance metastasizes in the above societies and breeds further miscommunication. I was stationed in both Pakistan and India for about 15 years and traveled them extensively so I feel I should put in my 2 cents.

Ma Moxti, your comments against moderate Muslims conniving with fundamentalists is plain naive. What do you expect the taxi driver in NYC or the janitor in Peshawar to do? Take a day off and go live on the BBC or CNN and rail against extremism? These people are dirt poor, they are more concerned about feeding themselves and their families rather than uselessly declare something everyone already knows. Informants? Someone has been watching too many cop shows… And your insinuations of killing Muslim women and children are very, very dangerous. Your language echoes the likes of Hitler and Stalin. I hope something psychological or physical (like a slap to the head) changes your evil view. By threatening Muslims with persecution, you only push them to side with the extremists who fight for no cause but their own.

This attack only hurts Pakistan, who needs good relations with India. Always ask “who benefits?” before immaturely blaming people that look and talk exactly like you (sorry but all you ‘desis’ are the same people). I’ve seen firsthand accounts of the horrible atrocities the Gujarat mobs did to the Muslims as well as the Christians further east; I’ve also seen the aftermaths of the 1993 attacks. This problem is way too complex to be decided by biased ignorant populations that know little if anything other than what their propaganda news channels provide them with. If only you South Asians visited and interacted with each other more would you understand the sheer stupidity of all these vitriolic remarks.

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By: Milind http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/11/27/battleground-india-but-delhi-clueless/comment-page-1/#comment-7922 Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:40:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=973#comment-7922 Indian govt must be held accountable for this mayhem. Being tolerant towards the worst kind of terrorism is the most henious crime it has commited among others.It removed the anti terror law required as per the guideline of UN.This time too, its not telling the truth about the actual no of casualities. It is also not sure about the no of terrorists who may still be present in Mumbai.Its extremely dangerous approach. Foreigners must not visit Mumbai.

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By: Danyal http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/11/27/battleground-india-but-delhi-clueless/comment-page-1/#comment-7921 Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:23:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=973#comment-7921 It’s sad to see Pakistanis and Indians arguing and blaming each other for everything bad that’s happened. When will people realize that we are all one? Our institutions have failed us and this is what really needs to be questioned. This is a world built on fear. Love is the key to building a better world but this will only come once we put aside our selfish egos.
These horrific events are a sign that our world has gone to hell. My solution is simple. Don’t spread more hate by arguing amongst yourselves. Its fruitless. Instead call into question your institutions such as irrelevant religions , lying governments, unfair monetary systems and economies built on consumerism. These are the root causes of all our discontents. Just think about it.

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By: zubaid http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/11/27/battleground-india-but-delhi-clueless/comment-page-1/#comment-7920 Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:13:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=973#comment-7920 As a proud Indian Muslim who is deeply shattered by these recent spate of attacks on our motherland…

Initially I was skeptical about it but now its imminent that our neighbour & its so called jihadis dont understand a word about Koran – e – pak, Islam or Jihad…

Koran -e- pak is the ultimate guide for one to attain the highest level of thinking & a noble life, it doesnt sanction hatred, killing of innocent & total disrespect for lives of children, females & elderly…

This headless killings, witnessed over last 10 years in various parts of my motherland, has affirmed my beliefs…

I truly thank pak parvardegar that I am not born in that insane country which formed on the basis of hatred & mutual distrust…that nation is a failed state & its successive governments, in order to shield their failures resorted to Anti – India gimmicks…Be it Zia – ul – Haque, Musharraf or any other leader…

I am blessed to have received a kind of education in my motherland which gives me a standing of honor in this world, as even Hajarat Saheb has said that Taleem is most precious…I feel extensive reforms are required in our neighbouring country to help their younger generation who are misguided in so called Madarsas (we too are a Namaji but my father never permitted to go to these orthodox institutions)…

I urge all the ppl of that country, please open your eyes & see the light of the day, this hatred has doomed you & your future generations…

May you ppl get some sense…

May Allah show them righteous path…

Amen!

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By: Suresh Kumar http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/11/27/battleground-india-but-delhi-clueless/comment-page-1/#comment-7918 Sun, 30 Nov 2008 16:16:12 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=973#comment-7918 The hatred between Indians and pakistanis is fuelled by power hungry leaders. People love each other. I have good memories of living together with muslim families.

The terrrorists who attacked mumbai are innocents whose body and mind were trained by perverted fundamentalists to commit such inhumane acts. They lost their lives and killed so many. The people who derived sadist happiness by sending these scapegoats are still at large in pakistan

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By: Sujit http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/11/27/battleground-india-but-delhi-clueless/comment-page-1/#comment-7911 Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:21:54 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=973#comment-7911 To all the Indians..We need a govt, not like the one that we had of Indira G, where we went inside Pak till Lahore and had to come back under her stupid Leadership..What we need is a leadership in which we combated paki’s in kargil and then captured till the point our jawans laid their lives..Bcz, THEY ARE OUR SOLDIERS AND WE RESPECT EVRY BLOOD THAT THEY SHED FOR INDIA..Vande Mataram

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By: RR http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/11/27/battleground-india-but-delhi-clueless/comment-page-1/#comment-7877 Sun, 30 Nov 2008 03:03:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=973#comment-7877 Agree with every word Mr. Marut has said. Especially the last para. Never understood why we are two separate countries anyway – we fell prey to the British trap (divide and rule) and are still falling prey to it!
Mr. Samir Pakistan – you need to grow up. Its because of immature people like you that the world is going to the dogs… a little reading and travelling would help as a starting point. and then hanging out with a different friend circle maybe. And if I am not worng, your comments are probably embarrassing most of your other countrymen.
In any case the terrorism problem has nothing to do with religion or nationality, as such. Its a disease that has struck humanity in general and needs to be cured at any cost.

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By: Marut http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/11/27/battleground-india-but-delhi-clueless/comment-page-1/#comment-7834 Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:50:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=973#comment-7834 This is in response to the guy from pakistan.First thing,Pakistan was defeated every time it attacked India, It is not known to him, I’m surprised.
Pakistan is not only involved in this Mumbai attack but every attack by islamic radicals anywhere in the world. Sooner or later USA will take care of it. The real problem is the radical pakistani army which has illegaly ruled it for the larger part. The ISI creates satans like Lashke-e-Toiba chief Hafiz Md Saeed & Jaish-e-Md chief Masood Azhar who in turn mislead young people to act & die like insane dogs.
How can pakistan deny the existence of every terrorlord be it Bin Laden or Sayed Salahuddin on its soil? Everyone knows this, you too deep in your heart Samir.
Indian leaders of the preindependance time should never have buckled to the Pakistan demand pressure. Now, that carcinogenic mistake is full grown malignant cancer affecting not only the mothernation India but the entire humanity.

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