India turns up the heat on Pakistan, where will this end?

November 29, 2008

The language is deliberate, the signals unmistakable: India is turning up the heat on Pakistan for the Mumbai attacks that have  killed at least 195 people, and there is no knowing where this downward spiral in ties between the uneasy neighbours will end.

Beginning with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s warning that a cost will have to be paid by neighbouring nations that allow militants to operate,  to Foreign Minister Pranab Mukherjee’s direct call to Islamabad to “dismantle the infrastructure of terrorism”, there is a sharp, cold edge to the tone that you can’t miss even factoring in the immediate anger and sense of outrage the attacks have evoked  across India.

Then the signs: Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi in India on a previously scheduled visit to review the peace process packing his bags and heading home because Indian political leaders cancelled meetings with him following the attacks.

We have been here before, for sure. A 2001 attack on the Indian parliament, for which like the Mumbai attacks, the  Lashkar-i-Taiba was blamed, triggered a set of measures by New Delhi including breaking sporting and cultural links, downgrading diplomatic relations, and the deployment of the military in full combat readiness all along the Pakistan border.

That military stand-off ended six months later after considerable diplomatic pressure from the United States, Britain and other powers worried about two nuclear-armed nations on the brink of war.

So what are the options for Delhi this time around, beyond striking a menacing posture to force Pakistan to go after elements there which it believes are responsible for violence in India?

It can’t risk another extended military deployment – you can only do that sort of “coercive diplomacy” once a while for it to be taken seriously. Limited military strikes on the militant camps that New Delhi says exist across the border?

The New York Times raised that possibility following what were arguably the most audacious attacks India has ever seen even its violent history as a free nation.  It’s hard to tell, especially now that those training camps don’t exist so openly, given the Americans’ scrutiny of Pakistan. And India has always been reluctant to cross the Line of Control dividing Kashmir, fearing this would undermine its status as a de facto border and basis for a permament settlement to the Kashmir dispute.

Ending a five-year ceasefire along the Line of Control, which has in recent months comeunder strain? Or a freezing of ties, turning back the four year-peace process which if nothing else ensured the foes kept talking?

All bets are obviously off . The Times said American military and intelligence officials believed there was mounting evidence that the Lashkar–Taiba was most likely involved in the Mumbai attack. That can only strengthen New Delhi’s case as it confronts Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence with evidence when its representative arrives in India to discuss the attacks, itself an extraordinary move.

Islamabad had earlier agreed to send the head of the ISI to India but it later lowered that to a representative.
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Comments

A NUCLEAR BIG SCALE WAR.There is gonna be no result of this.Both countries should come together and fight to show us the nuclear bombings then we will undersytand what is it.Indian media i have seen is inciting the war.Govt seems to prepared now Pakistani acceptance is required then A NUCLEAR BIG SCALE WAR.

Posted by David | Report as abusive
 

Pakistan is living in the past, they need to wake up and get with the program. The majority of their citizens live in poverty, while the government spends billions on the military to accomplish ghastly endeavors such as these. I live in the US and always believed that you cannot paint people with a single stroke, but I think I no longer feel that way. Islam teaches intolerance, mayhem and murder. All the conflicts in the world have some aspect of muslim involvement. Its sad for me to say this, but all muslims are alike with their fanatic agenda. What will these people accomplish with violence, just hatred towards their people and their religion.

Posted by raj | Report as abusive
 

David,I have lived in India, there is only hatred aginst islam since you want to destroy us.

Posted by vijay | Report as abusive
 

no its not islam, islam teaches peace…the word islam itself means “peace”..but you know what the sad part is, is that you people forget what you have done in the past, but when it ocmes to finger pointing you are the first to say soemthing..i mean i feel bad for what has happned, and that innocent people died, but you know what why do you think these people did this?? for fun???because they were bored??? NOOOOO they did this because their whole families were killed like he said, it’s ok when you kill muslims like that incident with samjhota express where some 200 people were burned to death, the doors and the wondows were locked by hindu extrimist..i bet no one knows about that, and why would they, that would show their hatred and of course you guys are not like that right??? IT’s ok when muslims are killed and their mosques are torned down for example, babari msque in india and thousand people were killed by hindu extrimist, but thats ok, who cares as long as muslims are dying, but when they want revenge its islam..no its not islam its ignorant people who interpret it as islam..islam is the fastest growing religion all around the world and i don’t think if it was the religion that taught violence so many people would convert…think before saying,and put your self in these people’s places first and then say something, i bet they are not doing it for fun either, but if you kill their families i think they have no reason to live themself and the anger comes out nasty..

Posted by zeba | Report as abusive
 

Please people watch out. Whoever did this deplorable act wins if both countries fall into their trap and suspend peace talks and recent warming up of relations between both countries.If these countries go back to confontration guess who wins. The crazies with ulterior motives.

Posted by moby | Report as abusive
 

There are some circles who claim that there are some rogue elements in the ISI or even the Pakistan Army, maybe disgruntled and power hungry Generals or ex-Generals who want a piece of the huge billion dollar defence pie from the US. By planning these attacks on India, they now have the excuse to justify their arms build-up to ‘fight terror’ and/or to defend themselvesagainst a now hostile India, much to their benefit through their arms dealers, their lackeys, cronies or proxies in the arms business.Anyone who has read Machiavelli “The Prince” would know that this is one of the ways to divert attention from the real issues at hand and get away with whatever agenda they have in mind.Any terrorism analyst worth his salt cannot ignore this scenerio, and I am surprised that no such theory was forthcoming from the Indians or even the Pakistanies.They should asks themselves who’s to gain from this dastardly event monetarily? By the way, why weren’t the merchant ship(s) from Pakistan searched, when they Indian authorities were forewarned about it? At the same time, the elections in Kashmir was also underway, an indication that there would be trouble, which would work out to the benefit of these rogue elements in Pakistan, i.e. that’s all the excuse they need. These terrorist, mere pawns in their whole scheme of things could have been brain-washed by these rouge elements into believing that they are dying for their country, fighting for their religion viz.Islam, which is becoming a misnomer, ironically; or whatever twisted megalomaniacal reason they may have. Or maybe hugh sums of money were offered to their next of kin if theyundertook this inhuman mission.As expected the captured terrorist(s) say that they have no regrets!In short, it’s all about money; and absolute power corrupts absolutely!Now it seemsthat Pakistan has made an about-turn and not send their ISI chief to India. Maybe he needs to be debriefed in Pakistan for fear that he may inadvertently ‘spill the beans’ to the Indianinvestigators.Where is the Delhi born General Musharraf now after all this mess? What is his input into this matter after all his rhetoric about uniting the two fueding countries? What wouldbe the founding father’s of India and Pakistan viz. Gandhiji would be thinking now, if they were alive now? What has Ali Jinnah and his cohorts have acheived after all the blood and tearsshed during the partition of India and Pakistan? More blood and tears? The ball is in the court of the so called analysts and experts and I ask them whether there would be a more plausiblescenario.I am new to this conspiracy theory game and I hope to get some feedback from thoes concerned.May God Bless India and Pakistan!

Posted by Charles Thomas | Report as abusive
 

well said Zeb i totally agree with you, islam teaches peace and islam will be the bigest religion in the world inshallah

 

Pakistan has always been a pre-modern society controlled by a few foreign-educated elite, a defeated and shamed army, corrupt politicians, and an ultra right Islamic clergy. No good can come out of its people. I have lost hope in Pakistan. BUT not in Islam. I am not Muslim, but I still feel that religions are all the same – Islam can also be reformed and made truly tolerant and peace-loving. But this cannot be done in Pakistan. India is rendered most vulnerable by US’s strategic needs in Pakistan. But this can also be India’s biggest strength. India has to flex its economic bargaining power to have the US do more cleaning up inside Pakistan. This is in everyone’s interest – even in the interest of innocent Pakistanis.

Posted by surge | Report as abusive
 

First — I have to correct one particular mistake by Mr Thomas : the Pakistan-origin ships in Mumbai port were searched and nothing was found to connect them with the atrocities, and they were sent on their way. (It would have been strange indeed had they remained in harbour if they been responsible for conveying the vicious barbarians who killed 200 people.)———–Sanjeev Miglani hits, as usual, the nub of the subject when he indicates the futility of armed confrontation between India and Pakistan. There is no point in a rerun of 2001-2002 when the Indian army closed up to the western border. The operation cost a fortune – and over 400 Indian soldiers died though non-combat causes in the course of that menacing but futile demonstration by the then BJP government.It is time for unemotional, considered, mature diplomacy.I much regret the reversal of Pakistan’s decision to send the Director General of ISI to Delhi. That would have been a sensible thing to do – as well as being a considerable public relations coup. General Pasha’s visit to India would have had a soothing influence.But in spite of that PR disaster – there is no other word for it – there is room and opportunity for Pakistan to recover and to assure and convince India, by sincere cooperation, that there was no State involvement.The tabloid newspapers in the UK – the Sun, Times, Express, Mirror and Mail – are humming with silly stories about British-Pakistan-origin terrorists, and today’s (30 November) Times of India declares that :”Pakistan’s envoys and spin meisters have taken to the air in the west in a glib effort to counter the universal disgust and opprobrium the country is attracting for its alleged role in yet another terrorist carnage in the sub-continent.”"Disgust and opprobrium” for “its alleged role” ?Were there to be the smallest piece of evidence indicating that Pakistan had a hand, or any influence at all, in the evil Mumbai savagery, then there would indeed be reason for disgust and opprobrium.But there is no evidence. None at all.Let us all cool down. The Times of India’s comments are regrettable and inconsistent with its usual dignity and objectivity. It is in danger of lowering itself to the level of the Sun and the Times of London.There is much more heat than light, at the moment.And let us hope that mad Modi of Gujarat does not send out his extremists to conduct another pogrom. At the moment there is temptation for the fanatics of extremist organisations in India to take to the streets and murder Muslims.If this happens, it would be a disaster. In terms of humanity, of course, it would be terrible — think of all the innocent lives, the children butchered as they were in 2002.In terms of civilisation . . . ?

Posted by Brian Cloughley | Report as abusive
 

Kumar,As you indian hindus (even wonder who named you that?) continue to ‘westernize’ and sell out your land and people it is hinduism that will cease to exist along with India (ever wonder where that name came from?), keep it up its only a matter of time.

Posted by foresight | Report as abusive
 

India needs to once and for all pay the price and enter Pakistan. India needs to break up Pakistan into little feifdoms. The continuing murders of Indians by these barbaric cowards is not acceptable. We can not contiune to turn the other cheek.

Posted by steve | Report as abusive
 

Bring back Musharraf. The reason nothing like this happened while he was in charge was because he actually ran the country. Mr Zardari might mean well but he has no direct power. I remember being in Delhi when Mush was forced out and a lot of the government and military types were openly upset he had to leave.

Posted by pam | Report as abusive
 

looks like everything’s pretty much going according to plan.PNAC Project for the New American Century map: http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7079/ pnacplanqf4.jpg

Posted by wadosy | Report as abusive
 

The fact remains that India has progressed so much after freedom and partition whereas pakistan. People whether extremists or not in pakistan should try to build their nation.

Posted by Lakshmipati | Report as abusive
 

Zeba,what u said just shows ur total ignorance of the matters.Don’t use this forum for propagating ur false beliefs.India instead of turning the so called heat on Pakistan,should devise some other fruitful mechanisms. Those pakistanis who plan to kill innocent lives in India ironically, roam fearlessly in Pakistan. India must send agents to target & kill terrorlords like Hafiz Md Saeed, Masood Azhar & Salahuddin.Wipe out the menace once & for all.

Posted by Milind | Report as abusive
 

It is indeed depressing to know that Pakistani terrorists were again involved in these attacks. They are spoiling the name of the nation and the religion they pretend to uphold. India and many of the global powers need to get together and ensure that Pakistan is rid of this menace which is proving to be costly, not just for Mumbai but for the entire world

 

Its imperitive,given the situation, that both Indian and Pakistani Govts should jointly address the issue with evidence based leads. And importantly, refrain from issuing premature and unsupported statements as to who is responsible. May be this time countries like USA,UK and Israel and possibly one of the middle eastern countries should assist out in thrashing out a common ground.Give the democracies a chance to resolve this conflict. Follow it up with strengthening the coastal gaurds and internal security within India.Down the line, continue the free trade opening trends that have been persued lately. Living togather is the only way forward.

Posted by kanwal chopra | Report as abusive
 

kanwal chopra says, “May be this time countries like USA,UK and Israel and possibly one of the middle eastern countries should assist out in thrashing out a common ground.”too bad the USA, UK and israel are planning on resource wars and wars to secure israel… and to that end, they want india to do the heavy lifting in pakistan… which will eliminate the pakistani nuke threat to israel and india……not to mention the fact that india will be a useful tool in limiting chinese access to persian gulf/caspian/central asian energy.have you forgotten that china is israeli america’s prime rival for acquiring energy?and it looks to me like india is being groomed to succeed america in its role as protector of israel, seeing as how america is not gonna make a graceful adjustment to oil shortages.that’s something to look forward to, isnt it?

Posted by wadosy | Report as abusive
 

Indian political leaders are threatening Pakistan because, allegedly, the terrorists came from there.There are parallels being drawn between the 2001 New York Twin Towers atrocity and that in Mumbai.15 of the 19 suicide hijackers on 9/11 were citizens of Saudi Arabia.But the US didn’t confront Saudi Arabia.

Posted by Brian Cloughley | Report as abusive
 

foresight,first of all don’t be ashamed of showing ur name.if ur muslim we can understand us shame of being a muslim.before exploring much abt mighty hindus and my name ,try to find out abt ur religion of shame.its few days of existance is abt to over.

Posted by Kumar | Report as abusive
 

Kumar,I see you didn’t ponder the questions I asked, shame, and btw when exactly did you as a people become mighty in between being slaves to us muslims for the last 1000 years and the west now?As for me being ashamed of using my real name on an internet message board, don’t make me laugh, you calling your ‘ab ke maar ke dekho’ scrawny self ‘mighty’ is enough jest for one day.In any case I do not feel it is right for me or anyone else to use this dark momemt as a podium to get across personal beliefs or political agendas, something your politicians and hindu terrorist vhp/bjp bretheren are clearly seasoned in.

Posted by Foresight | Report as abusive
 

it is not a fact and serious ness showned by the indian authorities on blaming pakistan for this incident they are just bothering here and there

 

I have been reading some of the comments posted here, and, barring a few sane voices, it looks like we have have gone back to our previous polarized positions.I am from India. Yesterday, the TV channels here were full of ordinary people being asked their reactions to this whole episode, and i was left wondering what mine was. The truth is, I am scared to spell it out. I also do not have a foolproof ‘solution’ to what one network put it as ‘we do not want a repeat of any episode like this, ever. Enough is enough’!The real thing, to my mind, is that we must stop making statements of religion in public. If we are citizens of the modern world, we should keep our religion inside our houses, and the moment we step out, we must cease to refer to it. I know this is difficult, since many countries have based themselves on a religious ideology, but that’s what it is: we MUST come to terms with the fact that religion is an outdated concept, there is no religion beyond peace and love for our neighbours, brothers and sisters, and the silent obeisance to the Supreme Power , God. We live in a world that is dominated by work, and business, and one’s profession, and thesooner we make that our religion, the better.Hence, we must not write about the the virtues of Islam in a public forum like this, all that is well-known and documented. We must inculcate this discipline in us, otherwise we are doomed. Nor must there be a Pakistani who says Muslims are being burned in India. Firstly, it is none of his business, and secondly,sane-minded Hindus have been quick to come out and condemn the Gujarat incidents as barbaric.Finally, what is the solution to the Mumbai episode?If evidence of the security forces find that these 10 people were indeed from Pakistan, trained in the camps of Lashkar-e-tayyeba, and India confronts Pakistan, then what? In my limited capacity, I believe that Pakistan should be taught some kind of a lesson, otherwise they will never learn. But what lesson?I think finally, that Barack Obama and Hilary Clinton will have to do some heavy-hitting with India and Pakistan before this gets sorted out.

Posted by Siddharthh | Report as abusive
 

Earlier, even until recently, I believed that Islam was a peaceful religion, even though over the last decade, the world’s terrorists have exclusively been Muslim. I now feel stupid for believing this and propagating the lie that Islam is a peaceful religion. It is an intolerant, sadistic and violent ideology, and according to the True Islam, these terrorists are probably going to reach some heavenly place and be surrounded by several virgins. Pakistan is the land where these people are brainwashed. Madrasas or Muslim schools teach a curriculum of hate towards any non-Muslim. Pakistan’s government, instead of building infrastructure, giving education and producing employment for its poverty-stricken population, channels all of the billions of dollars of aid towards India, a country that has come this far on its own in such a short time, given all of the anti-India forces working against it. These Pakistanis are unable to see Indians progress, as they are surely not about to.It is time for the world to wake up to the two-face lie that is Pakistan, and the terror and mayhem that this country is on its way to exporting to the rest of the world. Pakistan’s government harbors and protects the most wanted terrorists in the world. This is not a joke anymore. Islam and Pakistan are a danger to humanity. They have to be checked right now, or its going to be too late.

Posted by Matt Williams | Report as abusive
 

This attack must be an eye opener for all of us Indians and seems to be a pilot scale operation fully encouraged by our hostile neighbours to check out our reactions.If this is not contained now, what prevents our enemies and terrorists to carry out similar attacks on a mass scale, with hundreds of them at the same time, in multiple cities within India, and that too having a vast number of their symnpathisers in our midst to support them. Just the thought of it is mind boggling.I hope the right signals are conveyed to these attackers in order to prevent a complete breakdown of our beloved country.

Posted by Sooraj | Report as abusive
 

How come most of the Indians comes out with comments like “it’s time for world to wake up” or Barak & Hillary have work to do? No body is going to our job, they might support or stand up with us. The job has to be done by our selves. Pakistan is not feeling any heat on the contrary they just had to mention that they will move 100 thousands of their milita to Indian border.The terror attacks are own faults such as the government and the rest of political maffia. we cant blame our problems on some one else, not even on Pak. If we beleive its Pak behind the mumbai terror, just hit back bluntly like the Isralies don’t ask for anyone permission. If we are scared, have no guts just shut up, but stop making mockery of ourselves overseas.PS

Posted by PS | Report as abusive
 

First of all i appeal to all you narrow minded hate preachers lets keep religion out of this. No religion especially islam encourages such acts, in fact such acts are truly detested.Secondly Pakistan has always been a easy target for india so we shouldnt be surprised they have copped the blame, however before blaming the pakistani govt foolproof evidence should be presented – however it seems this isnt necessary.India fails to acknowledge it has its own internal religious/ethinic problems and there own dissatisfied citizens may be behind this.It may be that pakistani citizens could be behind this babaric act but does this mean the pakistani govt is involved 2?Pakistan has its own problems with terrorism (Marriott hotel etc?) and both countries should stand toe to toe and face these problems together. Indias reaction is a convenient deflection of their own shortcomings

Posted by Zak | Report as abusive
 

^^^^I am quite sure that they teach you facts like “Muslims ruled India for 1000 year” in your Madarasa.Not your fault…Personally I blame your parents who decided to get you educated in a Madarasa.

 

It is time for India to make a serious decision about its future. India needs to strengthen all sort of communal ties with all the muslims of India. At the same time, all muslim terrorist groups and extremists madrassas must be dismantled and all terror cells killed. Again, this should be done as commmunal friendships with everyday average ordinary muslims are strengthened for an inclusive India.Then comes the hard part, dismantling the terrorist infrastructure and each and every madrassa in Pakistan.Every Jihadi Imam or heads of the Mosques should be taken ‘away’.Pakistan is not willing to close the madrassas or reign in its terrorists. If Pakistan cannot, it should ask for help from India. If it does not want help, India should clean up Pakistan for Pakistan and then leave Pakistan shiny and squeeky clean. Sounds insane?Perhaps an insane country requires an insane solution.Ultimatly, Pakistan should be denuclearized and its military structure dismantled and all the different cultures, join with their mother countries, namely Balochistan with Iran, NWFP with Afghanistan, etc…all co-ordinated under the guide of the UN.The World is fed up with Pakistan.

Posted by Rick | Report as abusive
 

I thought we will get condolances and consolations from our friends all over, but what is happening is the same poisoning of mind here also, ill minded people like kumar and foresights are requested to refrain from commenting, and piersing the needle into wounded hearts

Posted by vivek | Report as abusive
 

Religion of “peace” ie. Islam strikes again. I cannot believe how can anyone justify Islam as religion of peace. All around the world common factor in all the conflicts is Islam. Many religion suffered becuase of Islam but no one performed such ghastly act against them. I wonder what will happen if everyone in world will be Muslim? Volience won’t stop for sure. Then Sunni and Shia will fight with eachother, afterall it is religion of peace.

Posted by xyz | Report as abusive
 

Where will this end? Over the last several years, Pakistan has sponsored terrorists to destabilize India as they are incapable of competing with the Indian military. In my opinion, the only way we can stop terrorism in that region is by striking Pakistan similar to the way Israel strikes Palestine every time there is a suicide bomb on their soil. These attacks not only take hindu lives but also muslims living in India. Not standing up for innocent lives is equivalent to accepting defeat in the fight against terrorism.

Posted by Hindustan | Report as abusive
 

The Bombay attack wasn’t the first neither the last one.India must act decisively and now before a civil war between Hindus and Muslims breaks out inside India, which is the ultimate goal of this attack and that of the Paki generals.The world can no longer ignore that Pakistan is nothing but a dangerous terror entity that must be dissolved as soon as possible.The attack shows the weakness of Indian intelligence agencies, government and that of Dr. Monmohan Singh, who has failed to take appropriate actions now or in the past.The vicious circle of terror must be broken, which can be done only when the international community, with a UN mandate, attack the epicenter of religious extremism and terrorism, Pakistan, and break it up once and for all.Indians should not fool themselves that it was the last one. Expect even bigger and bloodier attacks in the near future if you fail to act against the Paki army and ISI.India has the full support of Afghanistan and the Afghans!India MUST act NOW!!!Enough is Enough!As usual, ISI is behind it!

Posted by mirwais | Report as abusive
 

I expected that the Government Of India would have blamed their own total failure to combat the terrorists at the first instance. The police counter attacks were woefully inadequate as they were not trained or equipped to fight the well trained terrorists. It took a an unacceptable long time for the authorities to wake up to the situation. India is already considered a world power and its inadequacy was crassly apparent.If India can fight pirates on the high sees then what hinders them fighting terrorists on land. Surely Pakistan could be blamed but the jerk reaction shown by the officials over the years has made it very ineffective for a person to believe every word the government says. Only a week back my daughter was in Bombay and she came back praising all that makes Bombay a wonderful place.I know people who lived in Bombay before partition including my father, who were and are nostalgic about the great city. It was so cosmopolitan and secular. But the recent politics of communalism has taken some of the shine off that citys glamour.But behind the scenes there are other things India must consider now. First of all, the minorities should be taken along the journey of progress and well being that India has so successfully undertaken. The first tragedy of of independent India was the Partition. That process seems not to have stopped. Pakistan is going to be a State always on the verge of collapse. It has never had nor has proper values to guide it and is quasi a failed state living on the mercy of the IMF. Its poor people have been abandoned long time back. What rules in Pakistan is money, corruption, illitracy and mafia culture.

Posted by Dr. Arshad Khan | Report as abusive
 

No body is going to our job, leaders across the world might support or stand up with us. The job has to be done by our selves. Pakistan is resilient to say that they are nuclearised nation and move army to boarderIf the terror attacks are our own faults such as the government and the rest of politicalleaders , we cant blame our problems on some one else, not even on Pak. If we beleive and have proof to justify ourselves not necessarily any one else yhat its Pakistan behind the mumbai terror, just hit back bluntly like the Isralies don’t ask for anyone’s permission. If we are scared, have no guts just shut up, but stop making mockery of ourselves overseas.PS

Posted by Rohit mohanty | Report as abusive
 
 

Well said, Dr Arshad Khan…..at last, a courageous Pakistani who calls a spade a spade !

Posted by Siddharthh | Report as abusive
 

To Brian Cloughley: A Brit telling the rest of us about civilization?? God, has the world gone mad?

Posted by Layman | Report as abusive
 

Seems like the real intent of the attack was to derail any peace process and the ensueing finger pointing is evidence that it was successful. Pray that no harm comes to Obama. It will devastate relations between races in the U.S. and will greatly weaken the nation. I would not for a minute put this act past terrorist.

Posted by wolfex1 | Report as abusive
 

Haha this is really funny considering the incompetent Indian government would much rather blame their neighbor, Pakistan, than to admit that a portion of their Muslim population has become destabilized. In all probability this attack was probably one that originated from domestic terrorist activities not a foreign sponsored affair. Even if this was indeed an attack originating from Pakistan there is not much the country can do, busy fighting established terrorists along the Afghan border. It also wouldn’t make sense for India to invade Pakistan aside from the obvious dangers of attacking a nuclear armed country due to the fact that it would totally undermine their international reputation and it would increase hostile feelings towards the Indian government both in and out of India, which would almost certainly result in terrorist attacks every single day of the invasion. Stop hyping up the story and stick to the facts budz

Posted by weebs | Report as abusive
 

I don understand why would India try to kill us all when we are successfully doing it ourselves? It’s gonna hurt em more then it ll hurt us cuz we’ve become a dead and a senseless nation. US and Taliban are bombing us at will. Let India also do the same if it makes them happy. People are dying everyday in scores and we don’t have any sovereignty left No self respect No integrity. I don’t see anything left for us to “defend” from India??

Posted by Farjad Tanveer | Report as abusive
 

People are saying, that leave the religion out of it. I don’t understand why? All of those fascistic murderers are doing those horrible acts namely because of religion. The reason is Islam, they all are beating the drum about it. I understand, that most of the moslems in the world, don’t agree with terrorists views, but lets look straight and be honest here – the main and most important reason for those terrorist acts is Islam.If in the society, people start acting very strangely, you’ll start looking for the reasons. And if those who act strangely all announce something that they learned when they were children, then you’ll better look into your education system. I think moslems should check if there’s something wrong with what they are teaching to their kids. There must be something wrong.

Posted by kalamari | Report as abusive
 

It is, once again, proof that we the humans, so called civilized once, act in a way that even the animals are ashame of. I am always against those who don’t hesitate to take an innocent life and use religion for there acts. No religion teaches to take innocent lives. I do feel sorry for those who lost there loved once in Mumbai, India. At this time going into war will take sub-continent many many years back. Hopefully everyone will work together to take care of this terrorism once and for all.

Posted by Sajid | Report as abusive
 

Pakistan’s leaders and the Muslim world in general have to acknowledge unequivically that their culture has serious intrinsic flaws that contribute to the generation of homicidal psychopaths that believe they are doing God’s work. The President of Pakistan says he will take action if he receives “proof.” The President of Iran says terrorism is wrong but adds that it arises from “political injustices.” This simply isn’t good enough. No other culture produces people who regularly and systematically commit acts of indiscriminant mass murder of civilians who have no connection whatever to the internal problems of Muslim societies. It’s long past time for the Muslim world to take clear responsibility for putting its own house in order.

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**Gunmen spoke Hindi with strong Punjabi, north-Indian accent**”The young gunmen said little during the harrowing drive, but spoke Hindi with a strong Punjabi, north-Indian accent.” constable Arun Jadhav quoted and is the first of the evidences arising from the Mumbai incident.I think the world should take Kashmir and the issues of minorities in India very seriously. People in India are very desperate for their rights. Tackling and resolving the disputed Kashmir issue and putting an end to the human rights violation in Kashmir is going to be the biggest challenge the modern world will face. India does not accept peaceful resolution to Kashmir according to the UN agenda and yet aims of becoming a super power. More than 30% of the Indian population lives under poverty and all the government thinks about is making missiles and bombs. One should not forget the extremist hindus who have killed scores of muslims and christians much greater than the current Mumbai incident. It has been the failure of the global community that we live in who have been fueling the crisis. Unilateral policies of the US and UK towards India and similar of those of china with Pakistan is doing more bad rather than good.One should ask why did this happen? How can such a large country with immense forces be unable to tackle with 10 men? It is a failure of the Indian government and one thinks maybe they wanted this to happen to make an excuse for an action the Indian government wants to take. How can one forget the involvement of Indian agencies in supporting terrorism and fueling violance and attacks in Karachi for such a long time. About 40,000 people have been killed, I would rather say murdered over the past 19 years by Indian forces. Where was the world at that time? I would ask the readers to where were you at that time? How ignorant can the so called driving super powers of the world be? Killings in Kashmir have been close to genocide, a horror word we thought we would not listen to after the world war II. With current situation todays world is at the brink of such a man made disaster.I think it is time for world leaders to take things seriously and the UN should be strengthen to intervene. How ironic it is that the Indian government does not allow the UN to operate in Indian held Kashmir while Pakistan has opened all its doors towards the Azad Jammu Kashmir.I would like people who read this to think sensibly and not to follow false baseless political aquisitions which make confusions and misunderstandings.Let us all join hands, whether its Christains, Muslims, Hindus, Jews etc and make this world a safe and peaceful place to live in for ourselves, and our generations to come. The past is past, let us not blame each other anymore and look for solutions.

 

Hi guys,I’m a hindu born and I have many muslim friends. In fact my business partner originates from Kashmir (pakistan controlled). Of course it’s sad seeing what happened in Mumbai. My condoleances to all the family who are part of this tragic and hurtful moments.The answer to all these problems is to help each other and not by posting generalised negative messages which infuriate both hindus, muslims etc.Instead as outsiders, we should ask what can we do to help?I would not like to see any ordinary indians or pakistanis suffer through no fault of theirs. This is a time which the Indian and pakistani govt should cease and work together to eradicate the the culprits.In any society there are good and bad. Our service is to improve everyone’s ability to live amongst each other, without any discriminations.AN EXAMPLE: ONE CANNOT CLAIM TO LOVE GOD IF ONE FAILS TO LOVE EVERY HUMAN BEING WHETHER ASIAN, BLACK, WHITE OR BUDDIST,CHRISTIAN,HINDU,JEWISH,MUSLIM,ET C.I hope we can do something positive in this decadent world

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Ok!Mumbai DramaProduced by Hollywood, directed by Bollywood.As per a very very senior official of MI5 & ISI “India’s Osama bin Laden name Abdus Subhan Querishi or Tauqeer” is commander of 60,000 “supporters” and more than 6000 peoples within India support him politically & financially.Indians want war against Pakistan. If only 10 teenagers can engage “one of the best army” in the world for 59 hours then Ok! “Let The Show Begin” Its time for Indians to ask the right question from the securities agencies of India

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every eye soaks in tears for mumbai innocent lives too by not militants or whatever u say but inida itself..India has sown the seed of disparity, injustice and chankia for decades in minorities, specially the Muslims.. The actual mumbai monster is hindutva and its blind and blood thirsty fanatics.. and now she will offcourse reap it and it’s only the begining.. in 60 percent of indian soil, liberation movements are in full momentum..and india going on war with Pakistan, I say it will be blessings for Pakistan. it will unite the whole country and would make in one nation.. but I am sure, india can\’t dare attack Pakistan because she knows Pakistan..

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This is in response to PS and Rohit Mohanty — there are two kinds of blames we must be clear about — internally, our poiticians and bureaucrats have let us down, and therefore, their heads are rolling; three prominent politicians are gone. But the important thing is externally, if Pakistanis are found at fault, then this is an even larger blame to allocate; after all, if these 10 men had not decided to come to Mumbai, then none of this would have happened. Please let us not forget this.So the larger blame should go to the terrorists. In an international forum such as this one, we should do well to keep our internal problems to ourselves, and just talk about the external ones.

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A comment for Layman — you will notice that the Western world, including the Brits, are most civilized, contrary to the Pakistanis and Indians, who are barbarians in comparison………

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