The riddle of India, China military exercises

December 6, 2008

India and China are holding joint troop exercises this weekend in southern India.  As exercises between nations go nowadays these games named “Hand-in Hand 2008″ are fairly low level and limited in scope. Certainly not on the scale of the naval, air and ground exercises that India and the United States have embarked upon in recent years.

But this is a difficult time in South Asia following the attacks in Mumbai which New Delhi says were orchestrated from Pakistan and for which it is seeking decisive action. So, for China, – Pakistan’s all weather ally -  to be sending a bunch of  troops to India at this fraught moment is certainly worthy of note, if nothing else.

Obviously the exercises were long-planned and perhaps both sides didn’t want to send a negative signal by calling them off at this stage. Relations between India and China are themselves dogged by deep distrust long after they went to war in 1962 and every move forward or lack of it is closely watched by Indo-Sino watchers.

 

[Chinese and Indian soldiers at an exercise in 2007. Pic by Reuters/China Daily]

There is even an anti-terrorism element to the exercises. An Indian defence ministry statement said that troops taking part in Hand-in Hand 2008 will carry out tactical manoeuvres and drills interoperability training; and finally “culminating in a joint counter-terrorist operational exercise with simulated enemy.”

In India’s case elements in Pakistan can only be the simulated enemy, especially with the wounds from the Mumbai attacks still raw. The reverse holds true for large sections of Pakistan who have for long felt threatened by India, its bigger neighbour to the east.

But what of the Chinese? Who are they thinking of as the enemy when they go through the drills? Separatists in its Muslim-majority Xinjiang region or perhaps Tibetans who were the target of a clampdown following unrest this year?

A little Chinese riddle perhaps, these exercises at this time ?

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I have a question to ask the Indian smart government and its intelligent people. I am a doctor who trained in several instititutes of USA, I go to India and kill sveral hundred indians as I practice medicine because I went crazy, should the Indians blame the USA and the institutes that I was trained in?

Posted by Tahseen Khan | Report as abusive

very well. Indians have to open-up their mind and see the reality.

Posted by shadowleaves | Report as abusive

@Tahseen, India cannot blame a crazy doctor trained in a US university/institute for murdering people through his/her practise. But this is not a true analogy. In this case the murders comming from Pakistan have the support of thier goverment.

Posted by Achimus | Report as abusive

Pakistan should know it’s role. It was created under the pretext of a religious anatomy. It is a small fish as far as security goes for India. It will never be able to challenge what India stands for. The bigger threat to India and the region is China. So pakistan should stop playing the fiddle for China and stop their chest thumping like apes. Pakistan should get rid of those terror groups bcause you never were interested in Kashmir in the first place. Check what your founder Ginna said about Kashmir.

Achimus,
So you want to say murders of Banjeer and terorist attack on pakistani cities which kills lots of Innocent people almost everyweek have the support of the Pakistan goverment ????

Posted by Sayeed | Report as abusive

While I was playing golf with a Minister from one country one day.. I was told that the biggest potential threat to his country and the region is “INDIA”. With its big population, the extremism, dogmatism and its might as boosted by uslijat can create havoc for any of its neighbors any time.

Maybe India should look at itself and reflect – then look after its own security better before accusing Pakistan or other nations. After all, it helped to create Bangladesh? Why not, let go of Kashmir?

Conquests by force have never work permanently through out the human history. Japan lost the Second War with all its mighty and brave warriors.. but now conquer the world with its technology and brain. India also has those potentials but needs younger and more vibrant leaders to articulate and promote them and conquer US, Europe and others, with your wealth like China is slowly doing now.

Use the Army and/or force, millions of Indians will have to be sacrificed for a possible fleeting moments of glory.

siburp
‘Why not, let go of Kashmir?’

–In response of the “Great Kashmiri lies’ & anti-Indian rhetorics propagated by ignorants like yourselves & your paranoid minister friend, permit me to quote parting of a wise man’s wisdom to his son -
“NOT to worry about what people said about me or do to me as long as I am NOT guilty as charged. By being so, all those bad things said or done to you will go back to them.”

Posted by Anup | Report as abusive

Siburp,

I can only admire the ignorance of the minister whom you were talking to.India can never be a super power or even a emerging power also.This country will soon denigrate & decay very quckly, a civil war is simmering already.

The upper caste brahmins are already isloated, powerless,alientated they will unite & migrate into a new land.This will germinate in next one year when a strong leader from their community will emerge. They may forge a alliance with a neutral country with mass tracts of land & decide to migrate.This will perhaps be the first step which to me will concretely take place very soon in next one year.Once that ideal is cemented then i think the rest of India & Indians will find the place easy to collaborate with all their other interests.

The brahmins today have nothing in common with most indians in terms of personal integrity,politics & political representation,culture
religion,equality,obedience to law & compliance to taxation, fairness,fearlessness & courage, educational system which is anti scientific and preservation of their language sanskrit.It would be in their new land alone they will seek their cherished ambition of intellectual speculation from where will be seeded progress for themselves in what they beleive their cherished goals of integrity, honesty,character will be seeded.Unfortunately their goals are alien to most indians, we have been reduced to such a corrupt society that everything is sabotaged right from the grades in schools where cheating is encouraged to hardwork,to a public distribution system of food where food is adulterated,in our weapons procurement where a bullet can pierce the bullet proof jacket,where the words of lie can be overpowered into truth,where sacrifice can be wasted.This was not land for brahmins which they held custody for 5000 years in their history with statistical majority having high probity in public life.This is the land for Mulayam singh, Karunanidhi, Lalooyadav,Praksh karat,Sonia Gandhi,Mayawati,LK Advani,narendra modi,raj thackeray,shahi imam.They have infiltrated incompetance & corrupthood in every walks of human life.Their intercourse is with goons & goondas, with business magnates,traders who blatantly cheat tax systems,students who indulge in malpractices to get better grades,employees who seek job with false CV.

Never in my life have i felt as much ashamed as today thinking i am a Indian which is a a race of cowardice,cheats,manipulators. Nobody practices any religion the muslims are as much of a thugs & swindle government property & cheat their customers on auto meter as much so called hindu who violently abuse their power & are corrupt or the christians who throw their money to get thmeselves a few more people converted to their religion.Brahmins are equally a race of corrupt but atleast they have a better average they can organise themselves & fight their conscience & get out from this land & its prejudices,their religion was always “satyamave jayate” ” Truth alone is victorious”.

Posted by Vijay | Report as abusive

India still is far better and comparing with Pakistan is futile. Agreed there were many problems in India , but we had much better social fabric, far better governance and much better economy in the end. We have some future unlike pakistan.
So many harping on caste system or religiuos divide or kashmir or maoist etc India will overcome all these. Now in jobs in high tech cities in India nobody is questioning or even knowing castes and even religion.

Main problem that India faces is china, which has grabbed a country in recent years and then claiming it to be historically theirs!. Unlike kashmir which was never independent. Valley being mostly muslims can not claim independence what about Jammu and Laddakh?

What about history that all the subcontinent was Hindu ..upto hindukush mountain and Hindus have been historically wronged and all the land belonged to Hindus. So being muslim doesn’t make Indian Muslim a Pakistani. Indian Muslims wants pakistan to be declared terrorist state, sooner or later Kashmiri muslims will also realise that Pakistan has failed and it can not survive without Indian help.

Regards – Gus

Posted by Gus | Report as abusive

If I replace the term Indians with Idiot than this would not be so inaccurate to do so. They don’t see the true picture, and they are really do not see the truth. Pakistan, the nation of great religion, has been many times accused of being sponsoring and supporting the Kashmiri freedom fighter, Afghan defense against soviet invasion and on many failures of indian defence for protecting its people, but no viable evidencs has ever been given either to Pakistan, United Nation. Many people from Pakistan have been accused of links with many riots in india but why no evidence has been provided or Interpol being contacted?. Recently they establish that the detained terrorist belongs to Pakistan, however the truth is that, which being hidden by Indian media is that all such details provided by india pertains to a person who have died 15 years ago – just ask yourself why indian or supporters of indian media are not showing the relatives of detained suspect, why not showing the videos of villagers who said that they knew that detained person – We all know that Indian media – Indian govt. is lying and lies don’t live and speak for long.
A person who had seen his mother, wife, sister, daughter being raped by soldiers, knives being put into thier sensitive body organs, infants being burnt alive, killing for no reason – this all happen in indian occupied Kashmir, indian Gujrat, and even mumbai – what do you expect him to do – he’ll fight for his defense – and will be termed by cowards as terrorist – yes he is a terrorist to those who made him to become one.
Previously they were showing photos in which so-called terrorist was wearing the thread band on his right hand – now they are showing the same picture without that band – isn’t it their effort to hide the truth that those persons were infact Hindu and actually planted by indians themself. How can they simply said that there exist no evidnce of any indian support – nobody would believe that only idiots can and they have accepted that as truth. Think out of box – Comments by Achimus, made me smile.

Long live and prosperous Pakistan.

Posted by Peace | Report as abusive

HEY ALL OF YOU BLOODY ILLETRATE INDIANS.
U THINK U PEOPLE ARE VERY SMART, INTELLIGENT AND LITERATE .BUT I THINK THAT THE FOOLISH NATION IN THE WORLD IS INDIANS. COZ YOUR BRAINS ARE CONTROLLED BY YOUR MEDIA. AND MEDIA IS CONTROLLED BY BJP TERRORISTS WHO WERE INVOLVED IN SEVERAL KILLINGS AND TERRORIST ACTIVITIES INCLUDING THE SAMJJHOTA EXPRESS.WHICH YOU BLUDY INDIANS KNOW THAT BETTER THAN ME THOSE TERRORIST HAS EASILY CHANGED THE FLOW TOWARDS PAKISTAN FIRST BY KILLING THEIR TARGETED PEOPLE ( THE THREE POLICE MAN WHO WERE APPOINTED TO FURTHER INVESTIGATE IN THAT CASE ) AND SECOND BY THEIR TYPICAL KILLINGS AS THEY USUALLY DO BY DIFFERENT NAMES OF HINDU-MUSLIMS CONFLICTS ETC.LIKEWISE THEY HAVE DONE IT ONCE AGAIN . THEY GOT KILLED THEIR DESIRED MAN AND NOW THEY ARE BLAMING PAKISTAN FOR ALL THAT

MIND YOU INDIANS PAKISTAN MADE ITS NUCLEAR PLAN IN 1988. 11 YEARS BEFORE YOU. AND THEY SHOWED IT NEXT DAY OF YOUR BOMBARDMENT . REASON WAS NOT TO HAVE BAD RELATIONS WITH THE WESTERN WORLD.

ALLAH BLESS PAKISTAN. LONF LIVE PAKISTAN. PAKISTAN ZINDABAD PAKISTAN PAINDA BAAD.

@ Doctor Sandhu

No one really cares what Pakistan thinks about India. India is a strong developing nation and is all set to surpass Pakistans big brother China in the not too distant future.

Pakistan Can choose one of two options, normalize relatuions with India and stop thier religious extremism, or continue to climd the in the failed state rankings.. :)

Posted by russel | Report as abusive