Comments on: And now the Chinese navy in Somali waters… http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/12/17/and-now-the-chinese-navy-in-somali-waters/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Michael http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/12/17/and-now-the-chinese-navy-in-somali-waters/comment-page-1/#comment-9304 Fri, 26 Dec 2008 14:00:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1200#comment-9304 The Chinese ships departed today. I think that there are a few countries taking advantage of this situation to get there ships in the area. The problem will not be solved with these ships for a number of reasons. With so many ships, from so many countries that “don’t play well” together, they will spend more time and effort watching each other than the pirates. Another fact is, no matter where you are in the world, the criminal mind basically works the same way. These pirates will adapt. They will move to further waters, up and down the African coast, and adapt their intelligence capability. With the financing gained from ransom payments, the pirates will simply know where the naval vessels are and direct their attacks accordingly. Another problem is, any time a criminal enterprise is this profitable, there will be many more to join the trade. This should have been learned with drug smuggling from South and Central America, but who says the U.S. Government learns?

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By: Cowboy http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/12/17/and-now-the-chinese-navy-in-somali-waters/comment-page-1/#comment-9300 Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:41:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1200#comment-9300 At least someone is using their noodle.

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By: Amar http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/12/17/and-now-the-chinese-navy-in-somali-waters/comment-page-1/#comment-8872 Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:56:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1200#comment-8872 China can afford to pay the pirates the money they demand which would more or less same amount that is spent on deploying navy. They can negotiate better with pirates, than any other nation. Somebody have to publish the make of arms used by pirates!!
THe main reason for sending navy is, there is shipment destined for Iran/Pak conatining things which they dont want world to know. They want to save from embarasement if that ship is caught by pirates. They dont want to in situation of MV Faina!!

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By: Amar http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/12/17/and-now-the-chinese-navy-in-somali-waters/comment-page-1/#comment-8871 Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:24:12 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1200#comment-8871 @umair, You are proud of 1999 kargil. It is most cowardly act from Pakistan. sending army regulars in civilian cloths as terrorists. It is most disrespect any country can do to their soldiers, ie degrade ones uniform. After denying later your army picked the bodies of those unfortunate brave soldiers. My due respect to foot soldiers. It is their stupid/coward chiefs. There are plenty in Pak army.

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By: Tracy Lloyd http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/12/17/and-now-the-chinese-navy-in-somali-waters/comment-page-1/#comment-8852 Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:54:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1200#comment-8852 At last, China flexes her muscles in naval
power, notwithstanding a mere escort or
standby mission. But I am interested to
see if this Chinese fleet would be willing
to salvage other endangered ships of non-
Chinese nationalities, given its terms of
reference to fight pirates who are in harm’s
way to Chinese merchant ships.

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By: Brendan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/12/17/and-now-the-chinese-navy-in-somali-waters/comment-page-1/#comment-8847 Sun, 21 Dec 2008 05:13:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1200#comment-8847 If the Indian Navy interdicts another “Pirate Mothership” packed to the gills with “Thai Fishermen” maybe the “Chinese Navy” should consider sending a submarine as part of its anti-privitation flotilla.

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By: Jim http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/12/17/and-now-the-chinese-navy-in-somali-waters/comment-page-1/#comment-8845 Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:22:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1200#comment-8845 I highly doubt that in the long run the Chinese are going to opt to be on the side of any country that makes its decisions based upon some “religious” dogma. The Chinese are historically non-religious, and therefore distrust anyone who is……

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By: Teby Mathew http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/12/17/and-now-the-chinese-navy-in-somali-waters/comment-page-1/#comment-8817 Sat, 20 Dec 2008 08:42:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1200#comment-8817 On an operational level, I doubt Chinese navy can match the sophistication of other nations in Somali waters nevertheless to say Indian Navy! But the psychological boost is an important matter and I believe is the part of the GREAT INDIAN OCEAN GAME. They can also grab some headlines with real time action and experience the challenges of warm Indian Ocean currents.

The Somali pirate issue has been going for ages in Gulf of Aden, but all of a sudden it becomes a big issue especially after the oil super tanker attack. Why?? Read the recent visit of Indian PM to Yemen, Iranian boat’s adventurisms, eminent US withdrawal from Iraq and US reluctance to get involve in this menace. The deployment of Chinese Navy also need to be connected to the Mumbai terror attack – Is it a sort of assurance to Pakistan navy that they are here to support Pakistan – in case of an air attack or blockage from India Navy – Possible.

If pirate concern is the real issue, my impression, is that Chinese need top concentrate on Malacca strait and their current capacity is enough for that. But straying to Western side of Indian Ocean needs much more “Blue Water” capacities and I believe this particular deployment will not have any impact on pirates other than a small move on their part linked to the grand Chinese idea of “STRING OF PEARLS” which again, I think, will not sustain especially when Japanese, Australian and Indian navies are cooperating each other under the mentorship of US policy makers.

Another reason is economical – unbalanced growth of Chinese economy will soon touch its brake. It is only a matter of time when their export oriented development declines and once the cash reserve drains; there is no more room to think about Blue Water naval issues.

About the Pakistan Navy, I think they are as insignificant as Iranian navy or other Middle Eastern navies. They don’t have much role to play other than to secure their own exclusive zones and may be help to control the real Masters of Somalian pirates – which traces back to the kingdoms of Gulf. The only beneficiaries of this pirate menace are the “Arab Dons” and unfortunately Africans are helpless though it happens in their territorial waters.

The solution to pirate issue is the need of a BIG BOY in Africa – a complete black nation (neither Egypt nor South Africa) which can pressurise its neighbours politically or economically. May be a stable Kenya or its role is worth considering as a part of the solution!

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By: Vijay http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/12/17/and-now-the-chinese-navy-in-somali-waters/comment-page-1/#comment-8811 Sat, 20 Dec 2008 05:34:03 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1200#comment-8811 Umair,

Keeping adding more to your crimelist kargill,parliament attack,mumbai,guesthouses for dawood ,some more here & there so that indian government is pressured to act someday or the other.Your leaders say you may not be able to sustain a war even for a week considering your food security, oil stock, weapons procurement, medical personnel etc etc.India’s policy is non intervention in any conflicts,bangladesh was created because of your problem not by us. We stepped in on humanitarian grounds & nothing more.

Majority of Hindus have suffered brutality in both Islamic & Christian Rulers,Our wealth was snatched from us & taken both by persia & others.Africans, Hindus,red indians, aboriginess, Latin Americans have been the most exploited race in this world.Despite all the crimes in history we have been peaceful & chalked our destiny on our own.

The fact is china is superior to india & india to pakistan.Indians want fairness & justice,we are interested in pakistan only to extent whether your political manipulation leads to killing our citizens in cold blood & murdering them in brutual fashion.A war with India is a war about your existence & in 2 days time it will be a nuclear flare up & in 4 days you will cease to exist as also killing more than 200 million indian citizen.

Slaughtering Indian citizens for your domestic goals is wrong & atrocious,People who attacked mumbai should be brought to book for sake of justice & dawood should be hanged either by pakistani or by indian government.If you have the most professional & brave army then kill the people who killed our innocent citizens.

If these mastermind continue to abscond freely justice has to be brought by other means including war on pakistan despite every negative consequences to this world.The threat of nuclear attack has increased because of your unprovoked attacks on us & inaction assuming all your crimes will go unpunished.

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By: Indian http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/12/17/and-now-the-chinese-navy-in-somali-waters/comment-page-1/#comment-8803 Fri, 19 Dec 2008 23:45:53 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1200#comment-8803 More than half of that so-called country called Pakistan is not under direct control of the so-called civilian govt and the rest is feudal society of 18th century with GDP generated by terrorism, drug smuggling & fundamentalism. This country can’t even survive on its own & recently went with a begging bowl to all its allies only to be snubbed. Now they have a IMF loan & hope they use it to provide some food & shelter for their people rather than spend on its ISI. This is the hard reality of Pakistan Umair.You can’t eat a nuclear bomb for your supper. All roads of terrorism lead to Pakistan even according to the US & UK.

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