What does Pakistan want from U.S. envoy Holbrooke ?

January 30, 2009

Former Pakistan ambassador to London and Washington Maleeha
Lodhi has given a taste of what Richard Holbrooke can expect when
he makes his maiden visit to Islamabad next week in his new role as
President Barack Obama’s special envoy to Pakistan and
Afghanistan.

She may have owed her diplomatic career to General Pervez Musharraf,  but being an ex-official does not mean she has lost touch.

Writing in The News, the paper she used to edit, Lodhi listed an eight-point agenda for Pakistan as it braces for Holbrooke, a diplomat with a reputation for playing hardball.

Lines have to be drawn to make the United States respect Pakistani sovereignty and understand the limits of cooperation, Lodhi writes in an opinion piece titled “Back to the Future”.

Here’s the Pakistani agenda as she sees it :
1. U.S. missile attacks on Pakistani territory should end.
2. Assistance under the Biden-Luger bill should be offered
with no strings attached.
3. Give Pakistan helicopters, night vision, radar to fight a counter-insurgency, it doesn’t need conventional arms from America.
4. Give Pakistan a break in trade agreements. The all- important textile industry needs a lifeline.
5. Make India part of the equation for stabilising Kashmir, by recognising Pakistan’s security concerns on its eastern border.
6. The United States should reshape its Afghan policy to take into account Pakistan’s security concerns, otherwise no strategy will work.
7. Pakistan must also tell the United States that sending more troops to Afghanistan without a change in strategy will backfire.
8. Policies to stabilise Afghanistan should not end up destabilising Pakistan. The Taliban should be prised away from al Qaeda, and a reconciliation process with the Taliban begun.

President Asif Ali Zardari in an op-ed piece for the Washington Post also covered some of that ground, urging the new U.S. administration to boost both military and non-military aid to help Pakistan fight extremists. “Give us the tools and we will get the job done,” he wrote.

And he made clear too he expected Holbrooke to work with both Pakistan and India on the issue of Kashmir, although as special envoy for Afghanistan and Pakistan, India was technically not part of his remit.

 ”Much as the Palestine issue remains the core obstacle to peace in the Middle East, the question of Kashmir must be addressed in some meaningful way to bring stability to the region,” Zardari said.

Reasonable expectations of a sovereign nation ? Or is the time for expectations over ?

[Pics of Richard Holbrooke and a protest in Karachi against U.S. missile strikes in the northwest]

Comments

Why do we need eight points to describe Pakistan’s agenda.

” Don’t hurt our militants,but give us aid,military goods so we can use it for a future covert operation against India. But in the end don’t expect a damn from us because it will destabilize our pure nation”.

I think that’s what Ms.Lodhi is trying to say.

Posted by mitchell | Report as abusive
 

to me it sound like,

give us the money, give us the arms,
give us kashmir, and give us afghans.

and then shut up.
:D

p.s.: pakistan seems to have a pathological obsession about kashmir. urgent treatment is necessary before they sacrifice pakistan for kashmir.

Posted by basu | Report as abusive
 

“5.Make India part of the equation for stabilising Kashmir, by recognising Pakistan’s security concerns on its eastern border.”

This statement is really obnoxious for an Indian observer because pakistan is primarily responsible for all the militancy fiasco in its eastern border. The primary solution also lie with the pakistani state-CURB MILITANCY WITH HONESTY.
If it succeeds in curbing militancy then the entire world will pressurize India for talks,but until Pakistan realize this sane solution it will be a hell for Pakistan in both of its borders.

Posted by mitchell | Report as abusive
 

Well we all know what pakistan will expect:

Kashmir/Money/Arms/Chicks/Drugs………

But million dollar question is, will Holbrooke listen to these demands ??

Posted by punjabiyaar | Report as abusive
 

These are reasonable expectations, & if they are not met as per Pakistans accordance there will only be more bloodshed in the region. India has effectively frozen the conflict in Kashmir & hence is contributing to t-ist attacks such as those which occured in Mumbai. Afghanistan on the other hand, has only 5% of the country under government control…so how can Pakistan be blamed for all that is going on?

I am not saying Pakistan is innocent…however all three nations (Ind,Pakistan,Afg) have a role to play & hence should fulfill their responsibilities in the region

Posted by Qasim | Report as abusive
 

@ mitchell

With respect, militancy in the South Asia region is primarily fuelled by the butchery of Indian troops in Kashmir.Few outside the region know that India maintains half a million troops in the valley,against a population of four million.Indian troops have dug mass graves for Kashmiris,is it oblivious to you that violence breeds violence?

Google “Kashmir mass graves Amnesty International”

Posted by Qasim | Report as abusive
 

Well we all know what pakistan will expect:

Kashmir/Money/Arms/Chicks/Drugs………

But million dollar question is, will Holbrooke listen to these demands ??

Posted by punjabiyaar | Report as abusive
 

@basu

Pakistanis dont have an obsession with Kashmir;few have ever been there & we know its just a rallying card for our military to stay in power. In private dinner conversations,we sometimes wish it could be given away so as to just “get on with it” i.e. make peace in South Asia & move towards trade,cooperation & an eventual economic union.Pakistan wants to solve the crisis & General Musharraf even made an offer to meet India halfway over Kashmir. Did india listen? NO!!

In addition, Indian intelligence agency RAW has been sending terrorists into Pakistan to destabalize Balochistan province. How can we make peace with a neighbour that kills our citizens?

On the one hand, India sits on the table & talks peace with us. On the other hand,it sends terrorists into our country to kill our citizens. If this is not hypocrisy,then I dont know what is

Posted by Qasim | Report as abusive
 

@punjabiyaar

Pakistan believes it is at the centre of a join Indo/US/Afghan pact to dismember it…its a widespread feeling in our country. I hope its wrong,and I hope its proven wrong….but I doubt Holbrooke will want to listen to us. He will collaborate with our neighbours to try & destabalize us

Posted by Qasim | Report as abusive
 

Excellent Points by Dr.Lodhi. Pakistan is not reponsible for Militancy but the rise of Fundamentalism among the followers of Hinduism,Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Pakistan just doesn’t have any able leader and strong media presence in the world to counter these issues. To Indians all I can say is if you want to be a player then here is what you need to do:

Stop blaming ISI for all your problems
Stop harassing & killing minorities in India
Work on your infrastructure if you want to compete with China.
Start treating 300 Mil Dalits as human beings
Look at all the Independence movements in India(no International coverage).
Stop interfering in other countries affairs e.g 1971 East Pakistan affair, Sri Lanka, Afghanistan etc
Stop blaming ISI for all your problems

The list can go on but Indians like Pakistanis tend to igonore the root cause as always. Good Luck.

Posted by K.M Sheikh | Report as abusive
 

Pakistan military is a islamic mafia with interests in drugs (for funding terrorism) and terrorism. It openly uses nuclear blackmail to defend its existense. Remind me what brought Musharaff on track after his initial bouts at Kargil and 9/11? Oh it was long economic sanctions and technology denial. In the short term this is the only weapon which will work. In long run hope you have perfected your anti ballastic missile shield!

Posted by Alok | Report as abusive
 

Qasim,
Let’s not forget that India or Kashmir is not in Holbrooke’s agenda. So collaborating with you neighbor there is no plural.

Posted by Blogger | Report as abusive
 

If president of Somalia or palestain asks for a aid there is a meaning to it..but why is prez of pakistan asking for it ? Pakistan has rich natural resources, has ample man power and talent what it lacks is a good leadership to make use of what is available..the so called sovereignity is lost the moment the head of the country resort to begging, the worst part of it is creating a sense of holding a giving country like US at ransom by calling the process of cleaning the self-created mess as fighting american war…
The mentallity of the head of pakistan is so much reflecting in the people of that nation.look the banner they hold in the picture, “first gift of Obama” ?? So these people like their leader expected a goodies basket as gift from Obama !! why the heck should Obama give pakis a gift ??what for ?? For sucessfull 9/11 or mumbai operation ??
Sovereignity is respected if the foreign aid comes into this country to clean the mess..but it is lost if a foreign soldier steps in to do the same !!
This guy, zardari is a joker if not begger..

Posted by Anitha | Report as abusive
 

@Blogger

The conflicts in Kashmir & Afghanistan are linked because they have been fought by the same people,in the name of liberation…ie liberating Kashmir from Indian rule & liberating Afghanistan from Western forces. T

The Pakistani army already has to contend with insurgents on its NW border, so it would be helpful,for the sake of India AND Pakistan,if Kashmir gets solved because then our army will be able to concentrate on the threat from the Tlbn & wipe them out

Posted by Qasim | Report as abusive
 

Interpreting Ms.Maleeha’s demands:
1. U.S. missile attacks on Pakistani territory should end.

We are the best armed force in the world. If drone attacks do not end, we will keep protesting…

2. Assistance under the Biden-Luger bill should be offered
with no strings attached.

Pakistan if fighting America’s war against terror. We would have been happy to have Al-Qaeda and Taleban based in NWFP/FATA, as long as they stayed there, or in Afghanistan. Since or army now has to fight against the tribals it trained to destabilize the world, give us all your money or else…

3. Give Pakistan helicopters, night vision, radar to fight a counter-insurgency, it doesn’t need conventional arms from America.

We have an out-of-control small arms industry in FATA, that we outsource to. We need the helicopters, night vision, radar to fight a low-intensity conflict against tribals who fight with AK-47s and missiles on land.

4. Give Pakistan a break in trade agreements. The all- important textile industry needs a lifeline.

We were so busy manufacturing terrorists that we forgot the all-important textile industry earns FOREX and is required to keep the country afloat. Our terrorist exports are getting returned due to low demand in other countries and we are now trying to keep the stock in NWFP/FATA.

5. Make India part of the equation for stabilising Kashmir, by recognising Pakistan’s security concerns on its eastern border.

We destabilised Kashmir so much that we now need India to stabilize Kashmir and make sure that the exported terrorists are not returned. India should ensure that terrorists not come back from its side of the border as we do not honor a returns policy with India.

6. The United States should reshape its Afghan policy to take into account Pakistan’s security concerns, otherwise no strategy will work.

Do it my way or we will not fight the NWFP/FATA militants.

7. Pakistan must also tell the United States that sending more troops to Afghanistan without a change in strategy will backfire.

I am scared Afghanistan will get more secure and the exported Taleban will take refuge in Pakistan’s uncontrolled areas. We already have a lot of mess on our hands and the army will falter if militant ranks swell.

8. Policies to stabilise Afghanistan should not end up destabilising Pakistan. The Taliban should be prised away from al Qaeda, and a reconciliation process with the Taliban begun.

Oops… I reworded point 7 as point 8. However, we are trying to come up with good taleban and bad taleban concept so that no one knows what we fighting against.

Posted by Jerry | Report as abusive
 

It is high time that India appoint an envoy to Pakistan-Afghanistan and monitor the activities of USA, China, Saudi and others in that area. Any foreign donor to Pakistan should certify that the aid is not going to be used to train terrorists or any other anti-India activities. India has been too soft and passive on this. Look how Israel controls it’s borders and neighbors. The terrorism that India is facing for last 30 years is the result of this uncontrolled, unmonitored foreign aid $$ pouring in to Pakistan. Foreigners donate money, weapons, use Pakistan as they want and leave. Ordinary Pakistanis, Kashmiris and Indians suffer. India should question these foreign donors and demand a compliance certificate that their aid is not used for anti-India activities.

Posted by danny | Report as abusive
 

The new Indian envoy to Pakistan-Afghanistan should also make sure that any military hardware US brings to the region takes it back to US after the mission is accomplished or donated to Afghanistan. Pakistan should never get access to those hardware. Every time Pakistan gets new military stuff, it runs to test those on India. Any military aid to Pakistan should be accountable and approved by India. Because India is the victim of US military aid to Pakistan. Again, why should US tax payers pay for Pakistan military to kill Indians. Let Pakistan military maintain a size it can afford. No country maintains an over-sized military on donations or begging.

Posted by danny | Report as abusive
 

The new Indian envoy to Pakistan-Afghanistan should make sure that any military hardware US brings to the region takes it back to US after the mission is accomplished or donated to Afghanistan. Pakistan should never get access to those hardware. Every time Pakistan gets new military stuff, it runs to test those on India. Any military aid to Pakistan should be accountable and approved by India. Because India is the victim of US military aid to Pakistan. Again, why should US tax payers pay for Pakistan military to kill Indians. Let Pakistan military maintain a size it can afford. No country maintains an over-sized military on donations or begging.

Posted by David | Report as abusive
 

Just like Bin Laden is no position to demand or negotiate, Pakistan is no position to demand or negotiate. World has spent more than 2 trillion $$$ fighting the terrorists and the wars. And all that money was used to kill terrorists. Pakistan created Taliban and is the root cause of this. How much positive we could have done with 2 trillion $$$. We could have wiped out AIDS and 1o other diseases with part of that money. We could have gone outside solar system or made a base on Saturn with that money. But Pakistan forced us to spend that money on killing. We are in recession because of Pakistan , Bush got distracted by war on terror and economy got lose. Pakistan is a cancer and should be fixed ASAP!

Posted by wild | Report as abusive
 

I felt suicidal in my life and called up the support helpline.
The call went to Pakistan.I explained my situation to the person on the phone.I explained to him how I feel like killing myself.

The person on the phone was excited and asked me… “Can you drive a truck”!

Posted by nit | Report as abusive
 

Pakistan is at at it again with it perpetually empty begging bowl going door to door, its either whoring it self to the US or licking china’s ass, I think we will be better off helping india breakup pakistan in 4 new “istans” and while dismantling their nuclear forces. After that they can stew in their own religious hate and hypocrisy.

Posted by Kersi | Report as abusive
 

Qasim Wrote:
“Pakistan believes it is at the centre of a join Indo/US/Afghan pact to dismember it…its a widespread feeling in our country. I hope its wrong,and I hope its proven wrong”

I hope that your hopes dont make you hopeless. Reality is that we don’t discuss pakistan/china at all in our lives, our media or our policies. Well sometimes we discuss low quality of chinese products but Pakistan is only discussed when there is a terrorist attacks on the Indian soil.

Yes I believe pakistan should be dismembered and split into small toothless states, if pakistan dont stop sponsoring terrorism. But there is a BIG IF in between. What else can one do when you dont stop this crap. Nobody wants to be under constant fear and danger of another bomb blast or another mumbai attack or another 9/11.

It is pakistans duty to deal with terrorist elements as they had created them, if they cant do it themselves, ask India for help. But they are so filled of hate and anger, that they feel ashamed of asking help from India.

At long as Pakistan make terrorists there will be probabily and effort to dismember it.

Posted by punjabiyaar | Report as abusive
 

Well, All Pakistan wants it seems is equality with India. When it is unable to control its existing terriotories what would it do in case India agrees(hypothetical situation) to part with kashmir ? Pakistan needs a governement that probably can control its armed forces otherwise they are not going to be effective in achieving anything from US perspective imho.

Posted by Michael | Report as abusive
 

On the lighter side:

An insect falls into a mug of beer….

American : Takes the insect out and drinks the beer
Chinese : Eats the insect and throws the beer away
Indian : Sells the beer to the American and insect to the Chinese and gets a new mug of beer..

Pakistani : Accuses the Indian for throwing insect into his beer. Relates the issue to Kashmir. Asks the Chinese for Military aid. Takes a loan from the American to buy one more mug of beer, but never used it for beer (You know where will they spend it)

Posted by punjabiyaar | Report as abusive
 

@Quasim,
‘people who live in glass houses should not throw stone on others’:)
Let the Indian forces move away from kashmir and make it a SWAT,is it? Why is that people who mention Kashmir aggression always forget the Pakistani incompetency in Bangladesh?

Posted by mitchell | Report as abusive
 

An another lighter side:

No offense meant to any nation!

During the war,two soldiers are discussing,
SOLDIER A:How will we stop our neighbor’s tank that is approaching towards us?
SOLDIER B:Shoot the men who are pushing it.

Posted by mitchell | Report as abusive
 

if Mr Holbrooke is going to ignore Pakistani views and expectations, he should not even bother showing up.

 

Pakistan is nation who’s leaders are beggars. leave them on their own and their nation will self destruct into smaller provinces. The world will be relieved at the demise of pakistan, the epicentre of all terrorism.

Posted by Rajen | Report as abusive
 

Simon
170 million muslims people, a nation bestowed with all kind of national resources, professional military and nuclear weapons. A desire to live with peace, honour and dignity. Well enough is enough, it is about time Pakistan’s soverignity is respected. Otherwise with a sinking economy and resurgent Russia, American worlwide influence is already declining. China has aspirations, Russia will not mind good relations. Iran is at our doorstep and we have precious toys to sell them in exchange for just about anything from oil to a military alliance and defence pact. The options for Pakistan are much better and provide the much needed breathing space while for the US time is not on their side. Before Mr. Hoolbroke cathes a flight to Islamabad he must make sure he does his homework. US victory in Afghanistan is impossible without active pakistan cooperation. Active Pakistan cooperation is impossible without US recognition of Pakistan’s legitimate security concerns.
Good luck Pakistan.

Posted by Umair | Report as abusive
 

@Umair wrote:
“Before Mr. Hoolbroke cathes a flight to Islamabad he must make sure he does his homework”

On the contrary Pakistan should be prepared to agree everything Americans say. Otherwise If they stop the aid, half of the Pakis will have no food and they will be eating each other.

And as Mushy said, Americans will make a TORA BORA out of you.

Posted by punjabiyaar | Report as abusive
 

@All
Be in Pakistans position:
1) An emerging power on the eastern end with a clear agenda against pakistan and an obsession to prove its regional imperialist view. Moreover time and again have proven with actions its absolute rejection to accept Pakistans existence and have hardly ever over the past 62 years have let go any possibility to lessen the exposure that destabilizes its neighbor.
2) A turbulent neighbor on the western border who has been an open war ground of 20 years of cold war during which they have only learnt to count bullets in or out of guns.
3) Meagre non existent govt. structure rigged with corruption.

Given the above frame, Pakistan cannot be let to go down hill anymore and if agenda is not tailored to balance security and economy at the same time in the country, the nation of 170 Mio can prove inevitable death pill for the world. Pakistan has to rely on the world stage with dependable powers and policies to defy the norms and for this reason Mr. Richard better listen and adhere to the agenda or else the world migraine with be very painful.

Posted by Pakistan | Report as abusive
 

@Blogger

Well it SHOULD be on his agenda because the only way to solve Afghanistan is through resolution of Kashmir first. Its the long term solution to the crisis & will be beneficial to everyone in the region…ignoring the Kashmir issue & dealing with Pakistan-Afghanistan independant of that will only lead to short term solutions.

And we all know what short term solutions bring….they are useless & usually result in further conflict

Posted by Qasim | Report as abusive
 

“Reasonable expectations of a sovereign nation? Or is the time for expectations over?”

–Pakistan has never established itself as a Sovereign Nation, it’s either been under the thumb of a despot or a toothless provisional government, as in the present scenario…
The crux of the matter is , if there had been any faith in Pakistan to sincerely neutralize terror or live up to it’s promises, then why send a Holbrooke in the first place, & ultimately, the empathy shown towards the Taliban, divulges the ominous designs….

Posted by Anup | Report as abusive
 

Pakistan has suffered the most because of the ‘war of terror.’ What did India do to help the West. Zilch.

India meanwhile supported the Tamil Terrorist for 20 years. They are the biggest Hypocrites.

Holbrooke better come to Pakistan to listen. If he comes as a an Indian stooge he’d better not bother.

 

@punjabiyaar

“Yes I believe pakistan should be dismembered and split into small toothless states”—> Good yaar. You have proven my point.And you should be proud of your patriotic fervour in wishing this blow upon your enemy;however I have a warning for Indians who speak of dividing Pakistan to eliminate terror.

And my warning is,that beware of the destabalized neighbour.Look at how much Pakistan has had to deal with just because it shares its vicinity with Afghanistan….over the last 30 years Pakistan has had to deal with the effects of blowback from Afghanistan.

Similarly, if Pakistan were to break up into small states, they would not be “toothless” as you wish. There would be internecine warfare & the bloodshed would spill over into Hindustan. Suicide bombings, intifada, sabotage, murder, kidnapping, assassination etc would all spill over into your country if mine were dismembered. So if you speak of the breakup of Pakistan & get smug,think again…

Posted by Qasim | Report as abusive
 

Punjabiyaar
f*ckoff

Posted by Umair | Report as abusive
 

@mitchell

Whatever,we never wanted Bangladesh & the arrangement never made sense anyways.You on the other hand,have clearly forgotten that while there are DOZENS of liberation struggles taking place in india…Kashmir,Assam,Meghalaya,Manipur,Mi zoram,Tripura,
Nagaland,Chattisgirh & Andhra Pradesh

If Pakistan really was a glass house,why didnt India walk in after 26/11? :)

Huhh?

You are not accepting the truth,which is that your country is scared of Pakistan

Posted by Qasim | Report as abusive
 

@Umair – “Otherwise with a sinking economy and resurgent Russia, American worlwide influence is already declining. China has aspirations, Russia will not mind good relations. Iran is at our doorstep and we have precious toys to sell them in exchange for just about anything from oil to a military alliance and defence pact. The options for Pakistan are much better and provide the much needed breathing space while for the US time is not on their side”

Do you really think when pakistan stands opposite to US, Iran , Russia and China will side pakistan ??
Russia has already signed deal with US for transit route, US if needed can offer much better eye catching offers of toys that you say will pull China and Iran to side pakistan..
Sorry but Mr.Holbrooke is only coming to pakistan for some arm twisting and understandably Please notice how many previous bomb blast culprits are cought in just a week after Obama talked about CONDITIONAL aid and named Holbrooke for pakistan.

Posted by Anitha | Report as abusive
 

@mitchell

There are more liberation struggles taking place in India than the ones I have named;however much you may diss Pakistan always remember that Pakistan took land away from you,in the shape of Azad Kashmir.

We are a country 7-8 times smaller in terms of land & 3 times smaller in military terms…if I were you,I would be embarassed at having ceded land to a tiny neighbour,hahaha

Posted by Qasim | Report as abusive
 

But the question is – would Pakistan be in a position to tame these aspiration before a donor and messiah America.

Posted by dadhichd | Report as abusive
 

Qasim
“If Pakistan really was a glass house,why didnt India walk in after 26/11? ”

—Who wants to walk in such a filthy & messed up place? we not out of our minds, but be rest assured, Mumbai will be answered, this ‘Glass House’of yours shall be demolished… You’ll started it & paid no heeds of repeated warnings, therefore to finish it off is our right & privilege…

Posted by Anup | Report as abusive
 

More IMF funds hahah what else Pakistan is surviving on???

Posted by Afghan | Report as abusive
 

Although i am of pakistani desent I will talk about this issue from a third persons perspective. Firstly, Pakistan has an advantage over India because Pakistan has much to offer United States. Pakistan is leading the war on terror. Secondly without Pakistan how will United States policies towards Afghanistan be carried out? Pakistan can negotiate with the States to pressure India into dealing with Kashmir in a more sensitive manner rather than ignoring the situation in hopes of the best results. Lastly, if hypothetically United States turns on Pakistan the countries such as China, Saudia Arabia, Russia, all arab nations, and possibly even Britain might consider siding with Pakistan. The people of Pakistan and India are caught up in the propoganda, and need to unite. We need to stop the hostilities towards each other and increase trades this will ultimately create positive reactions for all of Asia…and for terrorism they will have a harder time trying to establishing there ideology…PEOPLE OF INDIA AND PAKISTAN THIS IS THE TIME TO UNITE NOT FURTHER FUEL TENSIONS…PROPAGANDA IS THE REAL ENEMY.

Posted by Talha Rehman | Report as abusive
 

What is Afghanistan surviving : Heroin and aid.

Pakistan is an integral partner of the US in the war on terror and without Pakistan, the war cannot be won.

 

@Qasim
“Yes I believe pakistan should be dismembered and split into small toothless states”

I was 400% sure you will quote this, But I also said IF PAKISTAN DOES NOT STOP EXPORT OF TERRORISM. You missed that buddy.

“Similarly, if Pakistan were to break up into small states, they would not be “toothless” as you wish.”

Its your history whenever Muslims are divided they fighting each other rather than a common enemy (Which you believe is West, India, Israel and 1000 other nations)

And we will make sure that all parts of former PAK is supplied with Arms and ammunition as last nail in the coffin.

Posted by punjabiyaar | Report as abusive
 

Hundreds of protesters have clashed with police in Srinagar, summer capital of Indian-administered Kashmir, police and officials say.

The demonstrators were rallying for the release of separatist leaders who have been detained in recent months.

They chanted slogans in support of independence for Kashmir and threw stones at security forces who fired tear gas shells to control the crowd.

The leaders were detained during elections held in December and January.

Posted by ALI | Report as abusive
 

Umair asking me to f*ckoff

Seems like some Paki ass on fire, Umair just tie a 4000 Kilo Warhead around your waist, yes yes where you guys tie bomb on sucide mission.

I bet you will cruise faster than your Korean Gauri or Shaheen missile.

It will be cheaper too. In fact free, who needs people in your country.

Posted by punjabiyaar | Report as abusive
 

Pakistan needs to reclaim its full natural geographic ‘space’ in order for stability to return to the region. This calls for a Greater Pakistan, or what the Indians can call ‘Akhand’ Pakistan, comprising of southern Afghanistan including Kabul, Kashmir, and maybe Indian Punjab. This will end Indian tendency to abuse Pakistan, end Pakistani insecurity about Indian intentions, and help both normalize ties.

Posted by Jon Nicolucci | Report as abusive
 

Well said Bangash Khan. Not stereotyping but your name says all about you. Its so Talibani Name hahah

“Pakistan is an integral partner of the US in the war on terror and without Pakistan, the war cannot be won.”

I agree with you and this is the point where I have been stressing on from the time I started bloging. Pakistan is the route of all evil, how can US win a war without Pakistan when Pakistan is still funding terrorist in both side of its borders.

Don’t Worry these Taliban are so going to destroy Pakistan. (Insha-allah) Just wait and watch. Deep down in your heart you know that Taliban can thrive a lot more in Pakistan than Afghanistan because 95% of your fellow terrorist country men are standing by their side.

You can’t run. On the West there are millions of Afghans anxious to see an ultimate destruction of Pakistan and on the West there are millions of Angry Indians who want to take their revenge back.

I am looking forward to see BJP win the election in India and see the start of an ending of Pakistan.

Don’t I just love to hate you terrorist Pakistanis>? hahah

Posted by Afghan | Report as abusive
 

Afghan, you missed out the third border where Pakistan indulges in cross border terrorism. The international community is not realizing the gravity of the emerging “Pakistan problem”.

http://www.haber27.com/news_detail.php?i d=21127

30 Ocak 2009 Cuma 19:27
Despite our diplomatic efforts and our contact with the Pakistani police, Pakistan’s Baluchistan Province has become a safe haven for militants, smugglers and drug lords,” said Iran’s Deputy Police Chief Ahmad-Reza Radan on Thursday.

Radan blamed the unrest on the failure of Pakistan’s border police to secure their side of the border.

“If Islamabad gives us the go-ahead, we will enter Pakistani soil and begin an operation against the militants,” Radan added.

The Iranian deputy police chief went on call for further cooperation from Pakistani security forces and authorities.

 

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