Comments on: What does Pakistan want from U.S. envoy Holbrooke ? http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/01/30/what-does-pakistan-want-from-us-envoy-holbrooke/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Bangash Khan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/01/30/what-does-pakistan-want-from-us-envoy-holbrooke/comment-page-5/#comment-12883 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:42:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1769#comment-12883 Mr Holbrooke’s visit was pretty good. He listened to Pakistanis, and then will go back and formulate policy after consultations. The Democrats should not repeat the mistakes of the past when they stole F-16’s from Pakistan and put sanctions on the country.

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By: chirkut http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/01/30/what-does-pakistan-want-from-us-envoy-holbrooke/comment-page-5/#comment-12151 Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:58:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1769#comment-12151 yes Gandhi did offer PMship to Jinnah to pacify his aspirations. It was shot down by Congress, most particularly by Mr Nehru and hence this theory.
Again this theory could be totally wrong. But it does provide an interesting insight into the power struggle between different factions and forces during the British Raj.

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By: Saf http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/01/30/what-does-pakistan-want-from-us-envoy-holbrooke/comment-page-5/#comment-12141 Fri, 06 Feb 2009 10:55:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1769#comment-12141 Nice theory, Chirkut. However, Jinnah was offered to be head of state as PM by Gandhi. It was shot down.

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By: Saf http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/01/30/what-does-pakistan-want-from-us-envoy-holbrooke/comment-page-5/#comment-12140 Fri, 06 Feb 2009 10:46:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1769#comment-12140 Yes, exactly like Joe Biden and Sarah Palin. lol.
Good analogy, Rajeev.

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By: rajeev http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/01/30/what-does-pakistan-want-from-us-envoy-holbrooke/comment-page-5/#comment-12123 Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:51:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1769#comment-12123 Oh Rajeev you mean ideologically when everything unfolded…well yea that’s evident how mistaken Pakistan was about support and operational theory and its execution. The whole thing was folly. Its just a question of who defeated who. Thing is Pakistan wasn’t defeated because they survived and hence the continuous false perception of invincibility.
–posted by Saf on 1965.

Saf: Back to 1965, perhaps for the last time :-) Yes ideologically. Any ways your last sentence reminds me of VP debate between Sarah Palin and Joe Biden. Knowing how bad is her knowledge about the issues, the bar of her success was set so low that even when she barely survived that debate, republicans sighed with relief with little smile on the lips as if she had won it. She “survived and hence the continuous false perception of invincibility” is carrying her towards 2012 elections.
:-)

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By: Blogger http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/01/30/what-does-pakistan-want-from-us-envoy-holbrooke/comment-page-5/#comment-12121 Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:01:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1769#comment-12121 @Punjabiyaar,
–short and simple “jab geedad (Pakistan) ki maut aati hai to woh sheher (Bangladesh) ki taraf bhagta hai” 😛

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By: Blogger http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/01/30/what-does-pakistan-want-from-us-envoy-holbrooke/comment-page-5/#comment-12120 Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:50:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1769#comment-12120 — Wonder if Chinese, Mongolians, Bhutanese, Burmese, Nepalese were look alike Pakistani and Bangladeshi.. hopefully we would have seen some more twists…

Blaming Around the world for Brutal party 😛

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By: punjabiyaar http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/01/30/what-does-pakistan-want-from-us-envoy-holbrooke/comment-page-5/#comment-12116 Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:25:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1769#comment-12116 “Investigators see Bangladesh link in Mumbai terror attacks
http://www.dawn.com/2009/02/05/top2.htm”

This is hilarious !

Its going like a nonsense bollywood movie so many twists and turns. Nobody knows who runs Pakistan, Political govt got a whip from ISI when they requested the chief for “go to India”, then they sacked Durrani for speaking truth, Then they said it was non-state actors, Finally after investigation :-) they are blaming Bangladesh for it.

If Bangladesh responds they will blame “Somalian Pirates”. And after getting response from Somalia probably they will accuse “Pirates of Caribbean” for Mumbai attacks. Where is this investigation going, Please tell me ? anybody ?

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By: Blogger http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/01/30/what-does-pakistan-want-from-us-envoy-holbrooke/comment-page-5/#comment-12108 Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:49:37 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1769#comment-12108 Simon and et al,
Well here is a twist… Hope holbrooke must include Bangladesh in his agenda 😛

Investigators see Bangladesh link in Mumbai terror attacks
http://www.dawn.com/2009/02/05/top2.htm

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By: chirkut http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/01/30/what-does-pakistan-want-from-us-envoy-holbrooke/comment-page-5/#comment-12103 Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:37:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1769#comment-12103 If i remember correctly both Jinnah and Nehru were lawyers by profession.

This reminds me of another theory(conspiracy?) going around on Jinnah. Both Jinnah and Nehru wanted to become Head of the independent state.(Jinnah was with congress for sometime before joining muslim league.) When he realized that he had no future in Congress he joined Muslim league and started demanding Independent Muslim state so that he can become her head of state. Just before independence he was diagonosed with stomach cancer and it becase clear that he would not live long enough to enjoy the new state. So he gave away the reigns of Pakistan to Liaquat Ali.
On the other side Nehru’s aspirations to become PM shot down by congress when they votes to side with Mr Patel instead of Mr Nehru. However on Mr Gandhi’s request Mr Patel bowed out of race leaving the “Kursi” for Mr Nehru.

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