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		<title>By: Prithviraj</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/01/31/the-other-guantanamo/comment-page-1/#comment-12604</link>
		<dc:creator>Prithviraj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rajeev, Anitha , Global Watcher 
and @$$ hole Ali,

I read your threads and Rajeev dont worry, this Idiot Ali in his true spirit of being a dumb pakistani just said some thing in his last comment what we have been trying to prove. He said &quot;Long live LeT&quot; and this is what International community should look at. That terrorist are getting ideological, and fundamental support in pakistan. 
Mumbai Attack investigations have established beyond doupt, Pakistan&#039;s involvement in the attacks. Instead of being ashamed this @$$hole is shouting slogans. That I believe is nothing but a desperation and frustation which is causing this self delusion. Their economy is not going, country in not going anywhere in terms of growth, education etc, The same Taliban they trained and now are now fighting against, to please the west is ready to bite them in their bums. So to sum it all up the state is at the verge of collapse. 
They talk about sharia law, but themselves dont know what sharia law says. They dont know that law proposed by groups like Taliban will pull them back into destitution and stone ages. In fact what is interesting is intially Taliban was welcomed in Afganistan as well, till the time people realise what their true face was. So soon who propose fundamentalism and sharia law in pakistan will have to face the music. Pakistan is a sinking ship, and all we need to do is to distance ourselves from them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rajeev, Anitha , Global Watcher<br />
and @$$ hole Ali,</p>
<p>I read your threads and Rajeev dont worry, this Idiot Ali in his true spirit of being a dumb pakistani just said some thing in his last comment what we have been trying to prove. He said &#8220;Long live LeT&#8221; and this is what International community should look at. That terrorist are getting ideological, and fundamental support in pakistan.<br />
Mumbai Attack investigations have established beyond doupt, Pakistan&#8217;s involvement in the attacks. Instead of being ashamed this @$$hole is shouting slogans. That I believe is nothing but a desperation and frustation which is causing this self delusion. Their economy is not going, country in not going anywhere in terms of growth, education etc, The same Taliban they trained and now are now fighting against, to please the west is ready to bite them in their bums. So to sum it all up the state is at the verge of collapse.<br />
They talk about sharia law, but themselves dont know what sharia law says. They dont know that law proposed by groups like Taliban will pull them back into destitution and stone ages. In fact what is interesting is intially Taliban was welcomed in Afganistan as well, till the time people realise what their true face was. So soon who propose fundamentalism and sharia law in pakistan will have to face the music. Pakistan is a sinking ship, and all we need to do is to distance ourselves from them.</p>
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		<title>By: Global Watcher</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/01/31/the-other-guantanamo/comment-page-1/#comment-12131</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Watcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 02:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ali,

It is too bad, you were not in the Lal Masjid.  Maybe you could have defended your Sharia ideals and martyred yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ali,</p>
<p>It is too bad, you were not in the Lal Masjid.  Maybe you could have defended your Sharia ideals and martyred yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: rajeev</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/01/31/the-other-guantanamo/comment-page-1/#comment-12019</link>
		<dc:creator>rajeev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ali&#039;s “A good start would be for india to give Kashmiris there rights which have been violated for the last 60years. They have been living under brutal OCCUPATION.

----------Ali: Yes let us start it. So who are the Kashmiris? What about 500,000 Kashmiri Pundits who left Kashmir bec. of terrorism (professional killers of Pakistan). Someone has to fill in the vacuum and that is allegedly similar # of Indian soldiers. What about the genocide of kashmiris? Kashmiri Hindus were asked to choose between Convert, Flee or Perish. “agar Kashmir me rahna hei, to allah ho akbar kahna hei” slogan was shouted at that time. Kashmiris in J&amp;K have more rights than any other Indian. Am I right that Kashmir is not a synonym for Muslim? Your feeling that Kasmiri are closer to Pakistanis lacks your knowledge of history (include Pundits) and the current reality (they hate you bec. of terrorism you imposed on them and they can see POK).

Now, if you scrub your brain with a sand paper and rub your eyes, give a splash of cold water and allow yourself to sink into the history from a neutral source-rather than a rotten propaganda site, you will not sound so inhuman and pathetic. 

Compare what India and Pakistan have done for Kashmiris. The name Azad Kashmir is such a bogus title since its PM is from Rawalpindi Punjab. High positions are held by Pakistanis, if I believe a Kashmiri from POK (now in Malaysia) who was complaining over a pro-Pak blog and was saying India has done a lot good work for Kashmiris and Kashmiris in India have better opportunities (Eduction and jobs), the money India is spending on J&amp;K. While India has article 370 giving special status to J&amp;K (including non-Kashmiris not able to buy property in Kashmir) and Pak allowed several thousand non-Kashmiri families to settle in POK. Pakistan destroyed the original demographics by ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri Pundits and asking for plebiscite by waging proxy war called Jihad in the name of Kashmiris. How about Mangla Dam story of POK-How many Kashmiris were thrown out of POK (lost jobs in the wake of the construction of Mangla Dam). Now Dam supplies 65% of the Pak electricity needs, but the so-called Azad Kashmir does not get any royalty. Azad Kashmir’s budget is just 20% of what Pakistan&#039;s earns from the electricity produced at Mangla dam!!!  Pak is leaching POK’s resources. 

Oh I forgot, one thing Pak has done for Indian Kashmir is to give them terrorism-without-referendum and if I start pulling out what these coward Jihadis deeds towards Indian Kashmiris, you will never ever visit Reuter again. POK has camps for training your “long live” LeT bros and other ----gps for killing innocents all around. I know that you don’t care what LeTs etc do to Indians but if you have enough fire in your belly tell your LeT bros that they killed 40 Muslims in Mumbai attack, way above the % Muslim population. Terrorism is very secular that way, so do not be so sure when you walk around. 
Here is what 3 LeT cowards did to a pregnant woman that Anitha mentioned (I expect you say oh no it was all implanted).
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/india-news/pregnant-woman-in-doda-accuses-lashkar-militants-of-gang-raping-her-repeatedly_100151075.html

If you cannot assimilate all this, just read this: Independent Kashmir is impossible. Kashmiris in India are better off as a special status than having a bogus Independence you have given them by implanting a Punjabi PM for Azad Kashmir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ali&#8217;s “A good start would be for india to give Kashmiris there rights which have been violated for the last 60years. They have been living under brutal OCCUPATION.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-Ali: Yes let us start it. So who are the Kashmiris? What about 500,000 Kashmiri Pundits who left Kashmir bec. of terrorism (professional killers of Pakistan). Someone has to fill in the vacuum and that is allegedly similar # of Indian soldiers. What about the genocide of kashmiris? Kashmiri Hindus were asked to choose between Convert, Flee or Perish. “agar Kashmir me rahna hei, to allah ho akbar kahna hei” slogan was shouted at that time. Kashmiris in J&amp;K have more rights than any other Indian. Am I right that Kashmir is not a synonym for Muslim? Your feeling that Kasmiri are closer to Pakistanis lacks your knowledge of history (include Pundits) and the current reality (they hate you bec. of terrorism you imposed on them and they can see POK).</p>
<p>Now, if you scrub your brain with a sand paper and rub your eyes, give a splash of cold water and allow yourself to sink into the history from a neutral source-rather than a rotten propaganda site, you will not sound so inhuman and pathetic. </p>
<p>Compare what India and Pakistan have done for Kashmiris. The name Azad Kashmir is such a bogus title since its PM is from Rawalpindi Punjab. High positions are held by Pakistanis, if I believe a Kashmiri from POK (now in Malaysia) who was complaining over a pro-Pak blog and was saying India has done a lot good work for Kashmiris and Kashmiris in India have better opportunities (Eduction and jobs), the money India is spending on J&amp;K. While India has article 370 giving special status to J&amp;K (including non-Kashmiris not able to buy property in Kashmir) and Pak allowed several thousand non-Kashmiri families to settle in POK. Pakistan destroyed the original demographics by ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri Pundits and asking for plebiscite by waging proxy war called Jihad in the name of Kashmiris. How about Mangla Dam story of POK-How many Kashmiris were thrown out of POK (lost jobs in the wake of the construction of Mangla Dam). Now Dam supplies 65% of the Pak electricity needs, but the so-called Azad Kashmir does not get any royalty. Azad Kashmir’s budget is just 20% of what Pakistan&#8217;s earns from the electricity produced at Mangla dam!!!  Pak is leaching POK’s resources. </p>
<p>Oh I forgot, one thing Pak has done for Indian Kashmir is to give them terrorism-without-referendum and if I start pulling out what these coward Jihadis deeds towards Indian Kashmiris, you will never ever visit Reuter again. POK has camps for training your “long live” LeT bros and other &#8212;-gps for killing innocents all around. I know that you don’t care what LeTs etc do to Indians but if you have enough fire in your belly tell your LeT bros that they killed 40 Muslims in Mumbai attack, way above the % Muslim population. Terrorism is very secular that way, so do not be so sure when you walk around.<br />
Here is what 3 LeT cowards did to a pregnant woman that Anitha mentioned (I expect you say oh no it was all implanted).<br />
<a href='http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/india-news/pregnant-woman-in-doda-accuses-lashkar-militants-of-gang-raping-her-repeatedly_100151075.html'>http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/indi a-news/pregnant-woman-in-doda-accuses-la shkar-militants-of-gang-raping-her-repea tedly_100151075.html</a></p>
<p>If you cannot assimilate all this, just read this: Independent Kashmir is impossible. Kashmiris in India are better off as a special status than having a bogus Independence you have given them by implanting a Punjabi PM for Azad Kashmir.</p>
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		<title>By: Saf</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/01/31/the-other-guantanamo/comment-page-1/#comment-12013</link>
		<dc:creator>Saf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ali,

Did you hear yourself talk? I remember that Muslim countries also stood by watching white-drunk-not-so-sure-if Muslims-so-we&#039;ll-wait-and-see-if-they-are Bosnians get slaughtered too. AND If I remember correctly it wasn&#039;t a Muslim country that stopped the Serbs and saved the Bosnian Muslims...who was it, then? hmmmm...oh yes, Uncle Sam i.e. USA. 

And if I recall correctly, Egypt had their borders shut during the assault and the Arab world couldn&#039;t get one damn statement out to condemn the bombings.

Sharia Law? I&#039;m sorry, are you sleeping through the news about the Nut jobs and traitors running amok in Swat who want Sharia Law, cutting people&#039;s heads in butcher shops and banning girls education in schools, and stopped all NGOs including polio vaccinations? You Want That? You rather be a Jahal like those Lal Masjid folks? Did they really appeal to you?  

Do you even know what Sharia Law is? Jinnah wanted a Secular nation. Not some messed up Wahabi/Salafi/Deobandi/Nasibi (they&#039;re all Kharjites) interpretation leading the country calling every second person Kaffir causing sectarian strife and deaths of minorities. 

As a brother Pakistani, I suggest some &quot;critical thinking&quot;. You&#039;re angry at the world&#039;s double standards. So am I. However look at home first. Do you see our citizens committing the same stuff we&#039;re accusing the West of? Yea, they are, and maybe worse. 

Do you think our guys who go into Kashmir have been great for the Kashmiris and they all absolutely love us? Think again. We&#039;ve done some horrid stuff, man. Like blowing away an entire family, including women and kids, if one guy is found to be an informant. The 3 rapists Anitha mentions...yea its possible. And you don&#039;t want to hear about the &#039;mujahids&#039;(they shouldn&#039;t be called that) in 47/48 who went into Kashmir...

Challenge your perceptions, brother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ali,</p>
<p>Did you hear yourself talk? I remember that Muslim countries also stood by watching white-drunk-not-so-sure-if Muslims-so-we&#8217;ll-wait-and-see-if-they-ar e Bosnians get slaughtered too. AND If I remember correctly it wasn&#8217;t a Muslim country that stopped the Serbs and saved the Bosnian Muslims&#8230;who was it, then? hmmmm&#8230;oh yes, Uncle Sam i.e. USA. </p>
<p>And if I recall correctly, Egypt had their borders shut during the assault and the Arab world couldn&#8217;t get one damn statement out to condemn the bombings.</p>
<p>Sharia Law? I&#8217;m sorry, are you sleeping through the news about the Nut jobs and traitors running amok in Swat who want Sharia Law, cutting people&#8217;s heads in butcher shops and banning girls education in schools, and stopped all NGOs including polio vaccinations? You Want That? You rather be a Jahal like those Lal Masjid folks? Did they really appeal to you?  </p>
<p>Do you even know what Sharia Law is? Jinnah wanted a Secular nation. Not some messed up Wahabi/Salafi/Deobandi/Nasibi (they&#8217;re all Kharjites) interpretation leading the country calling every second person Kaffir causing sectarian strife and deaths of minorities. </p>
<p>As a brother Pakistani, I suggest some &#8220;critical thinking&#8221;. You&#8217;re angry at the world&#8217;s double standards. So am I. However look at home first. Do you see our citizens committing the same stuff we&#8217;re accusing the West of? Yea, they are, and maybe worse. </p>
<p>Do you think our guys who go into Kashmir have been great for the Kashmiris and they all absolutely love us? Think again. We&#8217;ve done some horrid stuff, man. Like blowing away an entire family, including women and kids, if one guy is found to be an informant. The 3 rapists Anitha mentions&#8230;yea its possible. And you don&#8217;t want to hear about the &#8216;mujahids&#8217;(they shouldn&#8217;t be called that) in 47/48 who went into Kashmir&#8230;</p>
<p>Challenge your perceptions, brother.</p>
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		<title>By: Saf</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/01/31/the-other-guantanamo/comment-page-1/#comment-12009</link>
		<dc:creator>Saf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please, somebody hide me from Ali. He scares me.</description>
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		<title>By: Anitha</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/01/31/the-other-guantanamo/comment-page-1/#comment-11982</link>
		<dc:creator>Anitha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ali - &quot;Just now what hapened in GAZA where si the civilised world…Go to HELL it is essence of time that there is sharia law in all Muslims lands&quot;

Now we know what law muslim lands follow..Hamas govt goons in Gaza abducted the food, medicines and other aid items from UN when it was being distributed to sufferring and poor people..
Another news - The music and film culture in peshawar is completely shut down..
Yet another one - Girl students of SWAT are now migrating in large numbers to other places to persue basic education..
so much for your sharia law</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ali &#8211; &#8220;Just now what hapened in GAZA where si the civilised world…Go to HELL it is essence of time that there is sharia law in all Muslims lands&#8221;</p>
<p>Now we know what law muslim lands follow..Hamas govt goons in Gaza abducted the food, medicines and other aid items from UN when it was being distributed to sufferring and poor people..<br />
Another news &#8211; The music and film culture in peshawar is completely shut down..<br />
Yet another one &#8211; Girl students of SWAT are now migrating in large numbers to other places to persue basic education..<br />
so much for your sharia law</p>
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		<title>By: Anitha</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/01/31/the-other-guantanamo/comment-page-1/#comment-11975</link>
		<dc:creator>Anitha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Long life to LET...a women in kashmir has mustured courage to file a complaint againt 3 Let member who raped her thrice when she was a 5 months pregnant !! There aremany people who havn&#039;t sought the help of police fearing brutal reaction from Let there..
So Ali its for uninformed dogs like you to stop barking.
and not the sane and secular voices..
Try to read news rather than listening news from a mulla you idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Long life to LET&#8230;a women in kashmir has mustured courage to file a complaint againt 3 Let member who raped her thrice when she was a 5 months pregnant !! There aremany people who havn&#8217;t sought the help of police fearing brutal reaction from Let there..<br />
So Ali its for uninformed dogs like you to stop barking.<br />
and not the sane and secular voices..<br />
Try to read news rather than listening news from a mulla you idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/01/31/the-other-guantanamo/comment-page-1/#comment-11967</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dogs keep barking whilst the caravns move on.... well looks like the idiots sorry indians lol are doing a good job at barking and trying to teach how to live in a civilised way.

A good start would be for india to give Kashmiris there rights which have been violated for the last 60years. They have been living under brutal OCCUPATION.

Maybe giving the indian muslims a bit more respcet rather then after every bomb that goes off in  india. The indian cowrad security forces start to hunt inncoent muslims to frame them as the culprits. When infact the terrorist/coawrds are the hindu fanatics sorry TERRORISTS as perfect example is the samjuta train blasts which was full of civilians who were only armed with love n affection.

India should NOT pop its nose in every meighoring country e.g. sri lanks. So the diff is Pakistan supports LET and india supports the LTTE so what is the diffferenec the Tamils are involved in similar acts as the umbais and India openly supports them. Even though with the help of PAKISTAN.CHINA soon this insurgency will come to an end after 30years of indians policy have become a failure.

West always had clear double standards. For example when the serbs murdered, raped, killed, burned homes, held full city to siege in (Sarajevo) (GAZA) as open prison. This all happened under their noses but they turned blind eye and only opened it once the killing were done the masaccre took place. Even to this day they still finding new graves of young muslims who looked just like the the normal white colours, drank, but their only fault was they were muslims.

Just now what hapened in GAZA where si the civilised world...Go to HELL it is essence of time that there is sharia law in all Muslims lands. Thoses it sounds backwards well heared the saying live in rome then you got to follow rome rules. 

I find it so mind boggling that one side you people say killing innocent is bad and course it is. But whenthe guns are pointed at muslims anywhere there is NOT even condemnation. So go to hell all you idiots and all your sympthisers... Long live LET and the Kashmiris Mujahdeens and Long live Kashmir!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dogs keep barking whilst the caravns move on&#8230;. well looks like the idiots sorry indians lol are doing a good job at barking and trying to teach how to live in a civilised way.</p>
<p>A good start would be for india to give Kashmiris there rights which have been violated for the last 60years. They have been living under brutal OCCUPATION.</p>
<p>Maybe giving the indian muslims a bit more respcet rather then after every bomb that goes off in  india. The indian cowrad security forces start to hunt inncoent muslims to frame them as the culprits. When infact the terrorist/coawrds are the hindu fanatics sorry TERRORISTS as perfect example is the samjuta train blasts which was full of civilians who were only armed with love n affection.</p>
<p>India should NOT pop its nose in every meighoring country e.g. sri lanks. So the diff is Pakistan supports LET and india supports the LTTE so what is the diffferenec the Tamils are involved in similar acts as the umbais and India openly supports them. Even though with the help of PAKISTAN.CHINA soon this insurgency will come to an end after 30years of indians policy have become a failure.</p>
<p>West always had clear double standards. For example when the serbs murdered, raped, killed, burned homes, held full city to siege in (Sarajevo) (GAZA) as open prison. This all happened under their noses but they turned blind eye and only opened it once the killing were done the masaccre took place. Even to this day they still finding new graves of young muslims who looked just like the the normal white colours, drank, but their only fault was they were muslims.</p>
<p>Just now what hapened in GAZA where si the civilised world&#8230;Go to HELL it is essence of time that there is sharia law in all Muslims lands. Thoses it sounds backwards well heared the saying live in rome then you got to follow rome rules. </p>
<p>I find it so mind boggling that one side you people say killing innocent is bad and course it is. But whenthe guns are pointed at muslims anywhere there is NOT even condemnation. So go to hell all you idiots and all your sympthisers&#8230; Long live LET and the Kashmiris Mujahdeens and Long live Kashmir!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/01/31/the-other-guantanamo/comment-page-1/#comment-11943</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you still think the GITMO prisoners are innocent?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7868772.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you still think the GITMO prisoners are innocent?</p>
<p><a href='http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7868772.stm'>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/786877 2.stm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Umair</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/01/31/the-other-guantanamo/comment-page-1/#comment-11936</link>
		<dc:creator>Umair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rajeev 
Thank you for sharing the Swat links.</description>
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Thank you for sharing the Swat links.</p>
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