Musharraf planning to visit India

February 6, 2009

Former President Pervez Musharraf was always one for the grand gesture. So it should come as no surprise that after a period of relative obscurity following his resignation in August last year, he will visit India as part of a series of lectures he plans to give worldwide.

In an interview with the BBC, Musharraf, who has just returned from a trip to the United States, said he was enjoying his retirement and had been invited to give lectures on Pakistan and the South Asian region around the world. “He said the first invitation he had accepted was from India, where he expected to speak at a conference in Delhi next month,” the BBC said.

“I love this life. I am relaxed and satisfied. And I am enjoying my lecture tours,” he told Pakistan’s Dawn newspaper. “Next month I am going to India for the same purpose. Let’s counter the Indians on their own home ground.”

India always had a rather ambiguous attitude to the Delhi-born former general. After blaming him for the 1999 Kargil war, it later began to see him as a man with whom it could make peace and it was under Musharraf that a formal India-Pakistan peace process was opened in 2004. By the time he resigned, as I noted in the post I wrote at the time , India was fretting that his departure could unleash tensions if it created a vacuum which could be exploited by Islamist militants.

So it will be interesting to see the kind of reception he is given in the sour atmosphere between India and Pakistan following last year’s Mumbai attacks. Interesting too to ask whether the worries expressed by Indian analysts about a rise in tension proved prescient, or if it was simply an accident of timing that the Mumbai attacks — which according to media reports could have taken up to a year to plan — happened just months after he quit.

(Reuters file photo of former president Pervez Musharraf)

Comments

It is very unfortunate there are people (especially in the Western media) who listen to this guy who is posing as a moderate, enlightened man. He was a sponsor and perpetrator of jihadi terrr like any other Pakistan army general. He launched the Kargil war in 1999 and responsible for the loss of thousands of poor soldiers on either side. He refused to take back the bodies of pak soldiers and India had to bury them.

 

Don’t Pakistan which doesn’t allow its cricket players to play IPL in India due to security concerns has any concerns to allow lecturer musharaff to travel to India ?? Is the former president so unwanted there ?? or are they happy to send him away just escape his boring lectures ?

Posted by Anitha | Report as abusive
 

Pervez M will be speaking at the India Today Conclave in New Delhi early in March

Posted by Kushan | Report as abusive
 

Anitha:

I think India should not allow him here, Why we are giving him a visa in the first place, he has no power and absolutely no authority, Whom did he think he will meet, Vajpayee is sadly on the death bed now and Manmohan is not well too, other people will not give him the seven star treatment as he got last time.

Probably ISI is planning to Assassinate him and then blame Indians for it, in response of the Indian Dossier.

Posted by punjabiyaar | Report as abusive
 

He is coming during some conference in Delhi..rather than people it would be more in the interest of media and people who are willing to put up an argument with him..
If ISI kills him in India..so what ? who cares ?? He is someone not wanted anywhere..

Posted by Anitha | Report as abusive
 

G’day,

The largest democracy of the world should be ready to listen to one of our leaders. It is the basic right of every individual to have different opinions but respect should be enjoyed on both ends.

My dear Indian friends, Pakistani and Indian people have lost the peace cause to the shameless acts of Mumbai attacks. One should not stereotype a whole nation at any cost.

Who are the real winners in whole episode? Terrorists and Hard-liners, who have derailed the peace process.

Peace for all.

With love,
Abbas Naqvi.

Posted by Abbas Naqvi | Report as abusive
 

I suggest Bush and Musharraf should join hands to do some good, they screwed up a lot during last years in power.

Posted by Umair | Report as abusive
 

Indian hospitality——

First request him to come over, issue him a visa then….

surely we can read the response from few idiots above lol, who have put their views forwards and believe me most indidans have this mentality…NOT ALL

carry on you are exposing yourself with your garbage..

————IDIOTS——————-

Posted by Hussain | Report as abusive
 

anitha maybe you should have one to one with him… the old boy still got charisma and must have earned lot of dollars so surely he give you a tip….

Posted by Ali | Report as abusive
 

Oh No thank you Ali, You seem to be more interested in charismatics boys and dollars..you can have him all for yourself..after that tell us all in your comments how he treated you.

Posted by Anitha | Report as abusive
 

As a Pakistani, I feel Pervez Musharraff was arguably the finest leader we have ever had. He launched a wave of economic reform & social progress that had the country growing at 7% per year. He also moved towards mending relations with India(which unfortunately were not recoprocated by our hypocritical pesk neighbour). Either way, I dont feel he should be going to that country…they are showing petulance & tantrums @ the best of times & I wish he could change his plans.

Posted by Qasim | Report as abusive
 

I see no harm. he will be not be on official duty and let us see this side of the mango. If he is really into it sincerely, he can do a lot—but only if he is. I doubt he is if I read him well from this statement of his “Let’s counter the Indians on their own home ground.”

Posted by rajeev | Report as abusive
 

the Tags on this blog shows that india is more interested in pakistan then its ownself, wat eva abt Musharraf plzzz indians salute him and give him honor for his unmarkable cheapest acts to harm islam! do ask him abt the flavor of his favorite drink!!!

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the Tags on this blog shows that india is more interested in pakistan then its ownself, wat eva abt Musharraf plzzz indians salute him and give him honor for his remarkable cheapest acts to harm islam! do ask him abt the flavor of his favorite drink!!!

Posted by Sufian | Report as abusive
 

Sufian, what the hell ar you talking about…this is neither and Indian blog or a Pakistani blog. The reason that Pakistan has that big tag is that there have been lots of references to Pakistan in various articles here – especially about terrorism and Taliban.

trust me, Indians have no interest in pakistan now except that we want it to destroy its terror infrastructure which has endangered the whole world. We used to welcome your artists, singers and comedians with open arms but there’s no point because you military will never change and will always work separately from your civilian govt. to keep the tensions high. We would rather have the borders sealed and cancel ties rather than endanger our people and engage in a pointless peace process where on the one hand Pakistan talks peace and the other hand exports jihadis into India to wreck havoc.

 

Myra,
Its not just Indian but also many Pakistanis who believe that Musharraf was responsible for Kargil.
http://www.hindu.com/2007/09/10/stories/ 2007091059781400.htm
“Sharif admits he ‘let down’ Vajpayee on Kargil conflict
Claims he had no knowledge of ‘subversion’ by Musharraf, regrets not taking action.”

Musharraf doesn’t have a great fan following in india and India did business with him in the past because he was Head of State of Pakistan. Peace process started during Sharif Vajpayee time and not in Musharraf’s time. Because of him Agra summit broke down because he wanted to call Kashmiri Terrorist as Freedom fighters. All the later drama of peace process was to keep the international community happy and keep the dolloars rolling. Though he banned LeT under US pressure, he allowed them to function as before which resulted in 26/11. He is just a suave crook which cannot be trusted.

Now out of office he wields no power and consequently is of no consequence to Indian govt. And his intentions behind the visit are amply clear by his comment that “Let’s counter the Indians on their own home ground.”
He can not do anything good to the already damaged relations but surely he can make them worse with his loose comments.

Posted by chirkut | Report as abusive
 

This is a freakin joke!!!!!!!! Wonder who in the right mind in India would have invited him?

Prakash
Denver, Colorado

 

Mr.Joker of Kargil crisis who wanted to use Nuclear Weapons against India during the 1999 clashes is going to speak at a conference in Delhi? Indians are weak and forget everything very quickly.

Posted by haradhs | Report as abusive
 

Myra,

It is interesting to know that Musharraf can delver laectures ? Is he now lecturing on how to promote terrorism or launch military coup and how to usurp power in the name of democracy? Musharraf is expert on double talk , from the left hand he talks peace and his right hand sends his terrorist to launch attack on the Indian Parliament ?

Musharraf is most welcome to visit India, for 5000 years of Indian history, India has welcomed from huns to mughals, turks, persians, afghans, europeans and even pakistanis to launch terrorist attacks in mumbai. Myra, you will doing great service to your readers here if you can publish the transcript of his past lectures ? What subject is he talking about ?

Posted by anju2008 | Report as abusive
 

I agree with Abbas Naqvi. Just listening to what he says will do no harm.To agree or not is our choice.Also, moderates and artist from borders should not be barred from visiting. We should be open to rationalism, should’nt we.

Posted by rkunj | Report as abusive
 

Guys Guys Guys Cool Down !

Lets throw some shoes at him.

Pakis and Saudis will start bidding on the shoes. NOT

Posted by punjabiyaar | Report as abusive
 

Oh shut up everyone. Really, he is a former head of a nuclear-armed country and at the same time former head of that country’s military. People care what he says, that is obviously why he is going to these places.

I don’t understand how this is being circulated in the media – that the Indians felt he was someone ‘they could do business with.’ That is to say that India never found a peace partner across the border and thus that is why there could be no agreement reached. The reality is they don’t want to give in on Kashmir and wish to continue comitting terrible atrocities there.

Maybe this means Musharraf gave in on the Indians’ bluff, that is ignoring for a half a century the elephant in the room (Kashmiri atrocities). He’s an idiot if thats the case and good riddance…

Posted by A-squared | Report as abusive
 

Mushy Boy is a darling! A little bit of mudslinging by him won’t hurt us much, infact we’ve still preserved his Delhi house, he’s most welcome to stay there or we can gift him a grand farmhouse, he’ll be appointed special advisor to RAW & India’s anti-terrorist squad, wow, he’ll be a prize catch, a goldmine…Welcome Mushy.

Posted by Anup | Report as abusive
 

Hey why so nagetive thinking,Mr Musharraf is still working for betterment of the country through his leactures around the world and what our plolitician are doing?just fighting for power and lust.A leader with vision PAKISTAN COMES FIRST and still going with his solagan.long live MUSHARRAF

Posted by Akber | Report as abusive
 

Well, I dont think he has anything wise to say anywhere. He couldnt lead Pakistan out of the mess when he was the most powerful man in Pakistan. He had all the political leaders that mattered in exile, the military under his belt and bureaucracy too. He couldnt do anything but create more mess in Pakistan. Economically Pakistan is as week as any African country and is at the brink of total state collapse thanks to him. When he grabbed power in 1999, Pakistan’s economic measures were compared with India (the arch rival) but now when he has left, Pakistan is being compared to Afghanistan.

Yes, he is darling of US, because US has always supported dictatorships around the world specially in Latin America and Middle East.

Yes, go listen to Musharraf and please let us know his ‘pearls of wisdom’… I for one would like to sit outside each of his lectures and demand that he answer why there were military operations in Baluchistan (a secular separatist movement), why NWFP was made to slide into chaos, why crimes against women were endorsed by calling victims as looking for canadian visas, I will ask him what has he gain by disappearing thousands of Pakistanis, and more importantly if he was such a liberal why was he hell bent to destroy the only large scale middle class liberal movement in Pakistan, i.e., the lawyers movement.

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Anup…..

little boy tell your mummy to be ready to give some Mushy love to the General after all fauji hay fauji…
teri maa tay baray baray slaute maray gaa bachu..lol

Anup at least you admit you are one of those little, single pasli slumdog ryte…keep on working hard in that call center and plz dont use the name John be proud of your indians names.. accent typical indian aur naam goray kaa wa g wa lol…

Where are the surgical strikes by the coward indian???

Dont worry Mushy gone to do a surigical on your mummy boy….ACTION — PAKISTAN
—- TALK —-INDIA! THATS THE BOTTOM LINE TO COWRDS.

Posted by Ali | Report as abusive
 

“Mushy Boy is a darling!”

Anup STOP copying your mother only she is ALLOWED to call him that!!! You got it you little naughty boy…

Posted by aLI | Report as abusive
 

reading some of the comments in here, just reaffirms why majority of india and pakistan is still just a large slum. some of you really are slum dogs, say what you want about each other, but no matter how much your GDP increases, its your IQs that really need to increase.

Posted by sidney | Report as abusive
 

Give Australia back to the abrujnees….

look whos giving us a lesson in IQ wenr your forefather biggest crooks in UK and they were put in ships and offloaded in australia.

So go to hell you aussie and sort your cricket out lol.

Posted by Ali | Report as abusive
 

Ali wrote:

“Give Australia back to the abrujnees….

look whos giving us a lesson in IQ wenr your forefather biggest crooks in UK and they were put in ships and offloaded in australia.

So go to hell you aussie and sort your cricket out lol.”

Well, again Ali, you perpetuate the Islamic Double Standard. We in the civilized portion of it understand the concept of do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Therefore, since you say the UK took Australia, I feel the Arab invaders took India. So I can repeat your answer back to you, line by line and replacing UK in your reply with Arab and replacing Australia in your reply with India.

The Israeli solution can be fixed. Hypothetically, if Israelis leave Arab lands, then should not Pakistani’s leave Indian land (where Pakistan is formed?). I know this is no going to happen, but I am trying to make a point, but I think you are too stupid to comprehend simple concepts.

I don’t see any Arab countries advocating Indian land to be vacated, but I do see them thumping their chest over Arab land taken by Israel.

Why so many double standards? Do the double standards exist for the soul purpose of Islamicizing the whole world? If that is the case, there will be millenia of hate and fighting that will never stop and the rest of the world does not intend to lose.

Posted by Global Watcher | Report as abusive
 

Musharraf has to be given credit for bringing democracy and help to promote free press. At the same time he did make a serious mistake by suspending constitution and firing of judges. In balance he has done lot good for Pakistan as well improving relation with India.
There is no harm in Musharraf giving a lecture in India and hope someone do the same from other side. India seems to be bend on blaming Pakistan even if someone shot up a donkey there. Both countries need to cooperate to better lot their people.

Posted by Truth | Report as abusive
 

“India seems to be bend on blaming Pakistan even if someone shot up a donkey there. Both countries need to cooperate to better lot their people.”

Its quite funny lets admit it and No wonder Ali is hell bent on proving indians are idiots. Indians are doing a good job doing that and ali is just good at provoking.

Why didnt the indians take the offer of joint co-operation from the highest level in Pakistan?

Whi did it take in the words of High commisioner of Pakistan to UK…”It took Indians 42 days to compile the dossier but took them not even 24hrs to blame Pakistan?”.

Posted by John | Report as abusive
 

“India seems to be bend on blaming Pakistan even if someone shot up a donkey there. Both countries need to cooperate to better lot their people.”

Donkeys are “SHOT” only in pakistan, Pakis even killed the animals for not following Shariat and the Idiot talibanis They kill goats which point their tail upward.

“Why didnt the indians take the offer of joint co-operation from the highest level in Pakistan?”

This is quite idiotic, Will you offer an accused thief, to do the investigation over robbery.

”It took Indians 42 days to compile the dossier but took them not even 24hrs to blame Pakistan?”.

It was a report and needed inputs from CIA as well which obviously take time, on the other hand Pak always denied that terrorist KASAB was a paki, they also had to sack “Durrani” for leaking the truth. You know thats why indians did not take the offer of Joint investigation.

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Hang on a minute idiot —–

India is compiling the dossier and needs the input of CIA??? lol Are you saying that you indians are so incompotent can NOT even put a dossier together.

Oh I get you idiot after all the yanks are best at making dodgy dossier for e.g. the one they used to attack Iraw for weapons of mass destruction…

You idiots make me laugh and Rajeeeve save your breath after all diot wil never admit he is one but certainly have proved it.

“Donkeys are “SHOT” only in pakistan” I guess you lot get more usage out of erm like bum erm ryte after all could be one of wifes that dies and come back as a donkey? lol there is a strong possibility….

Posted by John | Report as abusive
 

“Will you offer an accused thief, to do the investigation over robbery.”

We are NOT talking about a thief you stupid prick we are talking about two countries co-oprating ok…so no theif and no robbery get that in your thick brain…

Bt then I would be asking too much…you are just like your mummu I ask to get on all four dogy style she puts one leg up…I can understand it runs in your blood to take right is wrong n wrong as right…lol

Dont worry NOT your fault kathri lol….

Posted by ali | Report as abusive
 

@Mr. John Ali

Check the dossier once again, There are some inputs from CIA and possibly some other agencies too. Idiot, its not the Binding or Printing of Dossier which needs “CIA”. Are you half Paki or Full Paki, sorry half terrorist or full terrorist.

On the lighter side You have a great knowledge of “Donkeys” and wives, are you involved in some kind of Animal se-x, or its your wife ? Whatever !

Tell this to Americans which believe the “Donkey Riders” from Afghanistan/Pakistan Destroyed the World Trade Center and killed thousands.

Tell this to Britons who said that 75 % of Terrorist attacks on UK are linked back to Pakistan.

BTW people are people and 170 people got killed in Mumbai not your s-ex partner “Mr. Donkey”.

Posted by punjabiyaar | Report as abusive
 

Ali:
“We are NOT talking about a thief ”

Ali no matter how big terrorist you are, for me and Indians you are not more than a scrap thief.

Posted by punjabiyaar | Report as abusive
 

“reading some of the comments in here, just reaffirms why majority of india and pakistan is still just a large slum. some of you really are slum dogs, say what you want about each other, but no matter how much your GDP increases, its your IQs that really need to increase.”
- Posted by sidney

—-Sidney, can you tell us which country you belong to so that we can relate better with your comments. Also please provide more insight on the issue at hand than passing judgements, as you did like bunching over billion people from 2 countries into one. Well what more can I say than “Sidney, welcome to the club”

Posted by rajeev | Report as abusive
 

“Whi did it take in the words of High commisioner of Pakistan to UK…”It took Indians 42 days to compile the dossier but took them not even 24hrs to blame Pakistan?”.
- Posted by John

—-If I can understand you right, then I will ask how much time it takes to prove Kasab is from Pakistan (over 2-3 weeks????). That’s a joke, Dawn knows, Pak does not. Also, sacking of NSA chief Durrani for agrreeing with the media that Kasab is a Pakistani National. Do they not tell the lack of sincereity of Paksitan? Isn’t it? Does that not support enough not to trust Pakistan in joint investigation.

Moreove, Mumbai is just one case, there is a history for lack of trust.

Posted by rajeev | Report as abusive
 

John, I tell you cannot better Ali in this game “who is the bigger IDIOT” you started?—lol

Good luck!

Posted by rajeev | Report as abusive
 

He is unwanted in India. Just recently, I heard him on TV talking to jurnos in Pakistan “we are not wearing bangles and give a befitting reply to India, if they try to invade”. He is anti-Indian thick and thin. Remember, he refused to salute PM Vajpayee, when he went to Pak on a State visit!

Posted by Praveen | Report as abusive
 

Anup and PunjabiYaar

Don’t argue with Ali and his cahoots.
“Never get in a fight with a pig because you will both get muddy…and the pig likes it!”

Posted by chirkut | Report as abusive
 

General Musharaf is responsible for sabotaging Bajpai’s visit to Lahore by planning & executing Kargil, not caring that Nawaz Sharif & Bajpai were sincerely trying to bring neighbors to a level of friendship necessary for mutual understanding & development. It does not matter wether Nawaz Sharif was briefed. It was Musharaf as head of Pakistan army who planned & executed Kargil to derail the peace process and pave the road for toppling Nawaz Sharif’s government. Of course he succeeded. The Army supported him because good relations with India could translate into less spending on the army and more on development. Besides Musharaf by disclosing that the Civilian administration was fully informed broke state secrets and should have been court martialed for insubordination and refusing to salute Bajpai. India should not invite this crook for any speaking tour. If anything they should transport him Baluchistan to answer the deaths of hundreds including Nawab Akbar Bugti.

The only thing going for this crook is that he can speak gramatically correct English. In this lies Pakistan’s misfortune.

India & Pakistan share the same land and will continue to do so till dooms day. Why not be friends and let bygones be bygones. For God sake, we share the same language culture music and sports. What more do any two countries need to be good friends. We must protect our neighborhood and not allow outsiders to interfere in our affairs.

Posted by Pardesi | Report as abusive
 

@pardeshi

Again that perpetual myth that India and Pakistan share the same culture and language. Pakistan has similarity only to a section and part of India and not India as a whole. Tell me what is common between a Pakistani and a Tamil?
There are some prerequisite that need to be met before India will even come to the talk table. The first and foremost is justice to the people who died in 26/11. Second being end to cross border terrorism.

India is and can still progress and prosper without Pakistan. It only expects Pakis to stop cross border terrorism. Mark my word when i say that after 26/11 Indian govt and Indian people are running short of patience with Pakistan and any further attacks on Indian soil will result in cataclysmic changes to the sub continent.

Posted by chirkut | Report as abusive
 

Musharraf is a terrorist like all Pakis are. Look at any terrorist attack across the world and you can be sure that there will be a Paki link to it. Today Pakistan exports only one commodity; terrorists and terrorism. How much longer should the evil state of Pakistan and its evil terrorist citizens be allowed to exist. They have become a cancerous tumor. The only treatment for the cancerous tumor that terrorist Pakistan is to give it a massive dose of chemotherapy in form of a massive nuclear strike on Pakistan to annihilate all its evil terrorist citizens.

Posted by Abi | Report as abusive
 

“”"”Again that perpetual myth that India and Pakistan share the same culture and language. Pakistan has similarity only to a section and part of India and not India as a whole. Tell me what is common between a Pakistani and a Tamil?”"”"”
- Posted by chirkut to Pardesi

—Chirkut: Just to be fair, I want to jump in and say that Pakistani/Tamil dissimilarity in culture and language is as much as that between a Himachli or UPite with a Tamil. Do not forget more than one Pakistan full of Muslims in India. In pressing the argument for such similarity as the basis for stronger ties, this is quite valid.

Religion is the major issue (should I say problem).

Posted by rajeev | Report as abusive
 

Anup STOP copying your mother only she is ALLOWED to call him that!!! You got it you little naughty boy…

- Posted by aLI

Ali your dad beat everyone to it, right now he is in mushys room dancing in a thong…lol why dont you join them have a paki bang

Posted by indian1127 | Report as abusive
 

John
“after all the yanks are best at making dodgy dossier for e.g. the one they used to attack Iraw(you mean Iraq?) for weapons of mass destruction…”

—Yes, we want the yanks to prepare a similar one on Pakistan…the saving grace is that this time they need not indulge in ‘dodgyin it’ – they sending the architect of Iraq’s WMD to Pakistan – Holbrooke!

Posted by Anup | Report as abusive
 

All Indian RATS are out of their hiding holes or were they just busy answering calls at the call centres and just got time to reply…lol

Better late then NEVER!!

Mushy is cuming on India lol. I dont get you idiots you invite him, issue him a visa then you want to pick bones typical indians never satisfied. No wonder they need someone like Mushy power…

Rajeeve, Anup, Indian127 and all the rest of you RATS lol

Mushy Fauji hay fauji tumari sab ki maa par baray baray SALUTE maray gaa after all he didnt slaute Vagpiyee who is he? So what he didnt slaute him he wasnt worth it anotherindian RAT!!!

But dont worru he’ll make up it just aks your mata g’s yo wear the best saris aur phir watch… Ukay Slaute ki power!!!

Posted by Ali | Report as abusive
 

Ali wrote:
“Ukay Slaute ki power”

Yea Yea Yea !

We know how pak Faujis and Gen. KIANI salute to American Drones.

We also know the way ZARDARI and co. lines up and SALUTE to AMERICANS and gave them Hilal-e-Quaid-e-Azam

You know what, Americans are so afraid of coming to Pakistan, They fear that Zardari may give a medal to them. And yes a Salute too.

Power of Salute.

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