Comments on: U.S. steps up missile strikes in Pakistan’s northwest http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/16/us-steps-up-missile-strikes-in-pakistans-northwest/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Abdul Rashid http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/16/us-steps-up-missile-strikes-in-pakistans-northwest/comment-page-1/#comment-15300 Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:20:03 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1923#comment-15300 I think Aamir is absolutely right. Pakistan is a peaceful country, with absolutely no intestions of harming anybody or snatching land from anybody. What i dont understand if why India is hell-bent on destroying muslims. First they took Kashmir. Then they took bangladesh(and took when we were granting independence to them) and killed all the muslims there(now only hindu indians live there, disguising themselves as bangladesh muslims). Infact as regards the Azad kashmir, its people themselves fought and gained their independence, and no, we did not dissolve them into our country, but are just helping them out until all of kashmir is free and we can then give them their own independent country. India has always been attacking our country, all the attacks carried out by so-called puktoons and balochies are actually disguised indian spies, and we have no hand in them, and still i don’t understand why they would attack as peaceful a nation as ours. Anything wrong that happens in Pakistan is due to India. All the murders, rapes , kidnapping done in Pakistan are by Indians. All the attacks being carried out inside Pakistan are by Indians. Only Hindus can think of voilence, not muslims, and it is them, disguised as muslims attacking everywhere around the world.

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By: Aamir Ali http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/16/us-steps-up-missile-strikes-in-pakistans-northwest/comment-page-1/#comment-13533 Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:27:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1923#comment-13533 @Mauryan

The claim of “millions of East Pakisanis” fleeing to India to escape Pakistani genocide, are war propaganda that was meant to justify an Indian invasion of east Pakistan. That is also why India trained the Mukti Bahini and sent them into East Pakistan to create chaos.

The Indian Army has killed not only innocent Kashmiris, but raped their women and eliminated Kashmiris leaders. That is why the army is hated in Occupied Kashmir and regular protests erupt against it and India. You won’t find such hatred of the army or state in Azad Kashmir. The reason is because Kashmiris feel safe there and are not being victimized by the state.

The elections you hold in Kashmir are frequently rig and lead to the same Indian puppets always in rule.

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By: rajeev http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/16/us-steps-up-missile-strikes-in-pakistans-northwest/comment-page-1/#comment-13163 Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:35:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1923#comment-13163 @It would be prudent for India to step in and offer bases from Kashmir valley that is under its control for US efforts. Even the drones should be able to fly from there. Better yet, the US should set up bases inside both Indian and Pakistani occupied Kashmir.
– Posted by Mauryan

Mauryan: Very bad idea. India must not let its territory be used for so-called war on terror. India is not getting into this. Our interests lie on this side of the border. you are inviting Taliban in Kashmir and giving a valid reason to terrorists to strike against India. Nothing good will come out, but India will get more terrorism-Kashmir will turn into Swat. Let pakistan decide about POK.

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By: rajeev http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/16/us-steps-up-missile-strikes-in-pakistans-northwest/comment-page-1/#comment-13161 Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:25:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1923#comment-13161 Mauryan: There is only one thing on which Indian politicians agree upon, i.e.., handling Kashmir with current policy–Kashmir is part of India.. It is engraved in stone that Kashmir will remain part of India and there are just reasons for that. Every talk/deal starts beyond that. India is not doing the wrong thing and is fair—following international laws.Your suggested experiments endanger India’s National security and the safety of Kashmiris. Also have you forgotten the declared agenda of terrorists: to spread Islam all over India?

Pakistan is unstable and unsafe for Kashmiris. Look at the condition of Kashmiris in Azad Kashmir, and who rules that and what Pakis have done since they have occupied it. This tells how well Kashmiris if they chose to be with Pakistan (it is India’s duty). So you assume that terrroists will turn Gandhian. They will not stop here since their declared agenda is to have Islam all over India (do you know this slogan “lad ke liya Pakistan husk e lenge Hindustan”—it is not funny). You think Pakistan will stop monkey play. Plus terrorists are not signing the deal of peace here. The educated Kashmiris in POK (mostly abroad) all envy Indian Kashmir and believe in Indian political system. How can you throw them to wolves (words of Frontier Gandhi proven right by pakistan).demography has been changed at gunpoint- so explain your idea to Kashmiri Pundits and to my friend who flleed Srinagar after losing mother/brother/father permanently mentally disabled by terrorists. Kashmiris are very different from Pakistanis, despite being Muslims—you must know that. If Kashmir is not part of India, we suffer severe geo-political disadvantage over Pakistan/China.

So drop this idea. We do not want another Nehru type blunder. A degree of autonomy can be thought of if all pieces fall in place, but Kashmir is part of India and Kashmiris are safe with India PERIOD. Punjab was divided into 2, so can Kashmir be. India is not expansionist but we do not invite someone to screw us up.

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By: Mauryan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/16/us-steps-up-missile-strikes-in-pakistans-northwest/comment-page-1/#comment-13077 Fri, 20 Feb 2009 04:14:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1923#comment-13077 Kyrgystan has voted not to allow US to use its bases for its war on terror.

It would be prudent for India to step in and offer bases from Kashmir valley that is under its control for US efforts. Even the drones should be able to fly from there. Better yet, the US should set up bases inside both Indian and Pakistani occupied Kashmir.

This will kill several birds in one stone. The US can get its supplies through India. All the Jihadi machinery inside Kashmir will shut down. And any time there is a terrorist attack inside India that targets Americans, missiles should be launched to knock out those illegal training centers inside Pakistan. India should make that deal with the US to allow them to use India for its operations.

And no one will dare raise the Nuclear threat since the US will be doing the job. They will see a very different Kashmir free of violence. At the end of it, it should be possible to withdraw the military from both India and Pakistan from Kashmir and a plebiscite can be held for all Kashmiris. There will be no influence from the Mullah and Mujahideens from Pakistan on the results. If they choose a Taliban infested Pakistan, it is their choice. If they choose to be independent, it would have been done under the supervision of the US. Pakistan will not dare run over it again. And it would serve as a buffer state between Pakistan and India in the future.

A lot of good will come out of this that will satisfy all parties. Indians should be fair and give a chance to the Kashmiris to decide for themselves. That part of the promise has never been fulfilled.

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By: Mauryan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/16/us-steps-up-missile-strikes-in-pakistans-northwest/comment-page-1/#comment-12986 Thu, 19 Feb 2009 05:57:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1923#comment-12986 Aamir Ali writes: “Kashmiri women have been raped by the Indian Army, Kashmiri rights have been robbed by the Indian Army, Kashmiri freedom has been crushed by the Indian Army.

Go ask a Kashmiri for confirmation.”

So how many million Kashmiri refugees are flooding into Pakistan? I am asking this because typically when a military does this, it is tantamount to organized genocide and refugees start pouring out as a result. If you want to know your military did that in East Pakistan and millions of refugees poured into India as a result in 1971.

The Indian military had to take brutal steps because your insurgents (most of whom are not Kashmiris, but Pashtuns and army regulars in disguise) attack them and hide into the crowd. They know well that the military will get frustrated and start acting blindly. This is a calculated move to frustrate the military and then cry for human rights violation when they retaliate. This is a standard tactic used in many places. I am sure rapes have happened whenever armed men are around. I do not claim the Indian military to be made of saints.

In fact in the Indian side of Kashmir there was an election for state assembly where a high percentage of voters showed up. Omar Abdullah was sworn in. You will call him an Indian puppet. So be it. In fact after the US military operations came too close to your home, operations by your jihadi groups have subsided considerably inside Indian controlled Kashmir. There was even talks of reducing troops there. But then 26/11 happened and everything changed.

Indian military is present in large size inside Kashmir because of two reasons: It is a border state with a hostile neighbor and there is serious insurgency sponsored by the entire Pakistani establishment and jihadi groups.

Kashmir issue can be disputed and resolved diplomatically. But your country wants to show its might every time and unfortunately it forgets that it is dealing with a much larger country. When you learn this truth, then Kashmir will be at peace, whether it is part of India or not.

Remember that when you point one finger at us, there are three other fingers pointing at you.

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By: Nikhil http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/16/us-steps-up-missile-strikes-in-pakistans-northwest/comment-page-1/#comment-12959 Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:38:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1923#comment-12959 John Smith,

I do not subscribe to the view of Pakistan’s dismemberment. In fact, no country wants that to happen. Dealing with one Pakistan is already a headache, imagine dealing with three independent and unstable provinces?

It’s sad that nukes are the only reason why people want Pakistan to exist. Unfortunately, the nukes are not protecting Pakistan; instead they are protecting the Pakistani “military-jihadi” combine.

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By: Aamir Ali http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/16/us-steps-up-missile-strikes-in-pakistans-northwest/comment-page-1/#comment-12955 Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:09:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1923#comment-12955 @Rajeev

Kashmiri women have been raped by the Indian Army, Kashmiri rights have been robbed by the Indian Army, Kashmiri freedom has been crushed by the Indian Army.

Go ask a Kashmiri for confirmation.

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By: rajeev http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/16/us-steps-up-missile-strikes-in-pakistans-northwest/comment-page-1/#comment-12901 Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:32:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1923#comment-12901 @Indeed blowing up schools would never happen in India, instead you blow up buildings, trains and mosques.
– Posted by himalayatoproom

What the Taliban have done to the Swatis, your murderous army has already done to the Kashmiris.
– Posted by Aamir Ali

Aamir, now that is distraction-off the topic. Slang matches have been played several times and what has not been said is that the only party doing REAL JIHAD in essence (not twisted version) is India. Why? India takes up arms for defense purposes only. Aggressor is Pakistan-inspired terrorism, but thanks to Indian Army which will make sure that Kashmir does not become SWAT. So blame all the violence in Kashmir on Pakistan, which indeed is functioning as a Taliban there.

But we are concerned about SWAT since it is the innocents there who are suffering in the cross-fire due to the incomptency of your Pak state.

Should we come back to SWAT now?

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By: Aamir Ali http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/16/us-steps-up-missile-strikes-in-pakistans-northwest/comment-page-1/#comment-12880 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:28:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1923#comment-12880 Who is going to divide Pakistan ? The Indians typing on their keyboards at home or NATO, which won’t even increase troops in Afghanistan ?

@himalayatoproom

Indeed blowing up schools would never happen in India, instead you blow up buildings, trains and mosques.

What the Taliban have done to the Swatis, your murderous army has already done to the Kashmiris.

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