Comments on: Pakistan Islamists in a deal with China communists : a sign of the times? http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/19/pakistan-islamists-in-a-deal-with-china-communists-a-sign-of-the-times/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Aamir Ali http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/19/pakistan-islamists-in-a-deal-with-china-communists-a-sign-of-the-times/comment-page-2/#comment-13531 Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:18:21 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1962#comment-13531 @Punjabiyaar

Maybe you think the lives of Sri Lankans are less than the folk at the World Trade Center, which is why you think Tamil Tigers are a small fish. The Tamils are indeed terrorists, created and supported by India, who have ruined the peace and lives of Sri Lanks for 30 years, and not a single “Mohammed” upon them.

Thanks for also admitting that lots of Muslims were killed in Samjhauta Express, which was conducted by Hindus.

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By: punjabiyaar http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/19/pakistan-islamists-in-a-deal-with-china-communists-a-sign-of-the-times/comment-page-2/#comment-13393 Wed, 25 Feb 2009 02:59:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1962#comment-13393 Ali Wrote:
“How many folk named Mohammed are part of the Tamil Tigers?

How many folk named Mohammed were involved in mass murder of Muslims in Samjhauta Express?”

Ali, tamil tigers are not attacking World trade centers and they dont bomb UK and spanish subways either. Tamils are fighting their own war within a specific country for their rights. While radical muslims are fighting against every non-muslim alive or dead. They don’t spare even dead statues of buddha and demolish that. Even if tamils are a terrorist group, this does not Justify extreme islamic terrorism.

May be Samjhota express bombing did not involved any “Mohammed” but I am sure it killed many “Mohammeds”, This is the only incident you could count, Relax I know you will shout about Kashmir and Gujrat now. Do you know what was the Sabarmati express incident ?

Moreover the culprits of Samjota express are in jail while Talibani are on loose and infact doing a “Peace deal” with pakistan. Your version of Islam sucks. I am sure no religion can be this stupid.

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By: Aamir Ali http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/19/pakistan-islamists-in-a-deal-with-china-communists-a-sign-of-the-times/comment-page-2/#comment-13356 Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:46:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1962#comment-13356 @Punjabiyaar

How many folk named Mohammed are part of the Tamil Tigers?

How many folk named Mohammed were involved in mass murder of Muslims in Samjhauta Express?

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By: punjabiyaar http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/19/pakistan-islamists-in-a-deal-with-china-communists-a-sign-of-the-times/comment-page-2/#comment-13334 Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:50:42 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1962#comment-13334 Umair wrote:
“You must be sure of one thing, Pakistan is playing its own game and its a fact.
This is indicative of the fact that Pakistan today is a nuclear power and much stronger country. We will do whatever is in the best interest.”

If you think playing double game with super powers and supporting terrorism is in your best interest, then soon you will be history, Amen. We have enough of this “Nuke song” now, you don’t have to sing it again and again. Everybody has nuclear weapons these days, it seems like only pakistanis are proud of it. Do you recite Atomic weight of Uranium 235 with your 5 times of Namaz 😉

Why don’t you post in the name of “NUCLEAR UMAIR” or “NUMAIR”

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By: punjabiyaar http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/19/pakistan-islamists-in-a-deal-with-china-communists-a-sign-of-the-times/comment-page-2/#comment-13333 Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:42:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1962#comment-13333 Ali Wrote:
“The Jamaat-e-Islami is a “religio-political” party in Pakistan. They are no terrorists.”

All of your Islamist names sound same and gives impression of a terrorist group. Every major terrorist activity has got some body with the name “Mohammad”. Its obvious that world will start thinking about who these people are, what is their religion and why there is a “Mohammad” involved in terrorist activities. Moreover Terrorist muslims and Non terrorist muslims look same, think same and want to do same. Only difference is Some terrorist pick up AK-47 while others pick up the keyboard and start posting on reuters. 😉

I dont want to say every muslims is a terrorist but question is “Is every terrorist a Muslim ?”

Good moderate muslims need to prove their innocence to world, otherwise people will count you in same flock.

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By: Umair http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/19/pakistan-islamists-in-a-deal-with-china-communists-a-sign-of-the-times/comment-page-2/#comment-13328 Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:39:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1962#comment-13328 Rajeev wrote:
People might be overreacting but the fact is Pakistan is in deep trouble. If US gives up on you you are done and roasted. They know plan B.”

You must be sure of one thing, Pakistan is playing its own game and its a fact.
This is indicative of the fact that Pakistan today is a nuclear power and much stronger country. We will do whatever is in the best interest. Yes the US has Plan B 3000 marines stationed in Afghanistan and an aircraft carrier off the Pakistani coast. The moment anything goes wrong, they will move in to capture Pakistani nukes. But there is a problem:
No one from CIA, MOSSADIsraelis or anyone in the world know where has Pakistan stored its nukes. Any stupid misadventure and Pakistan could ready its ballistic missiles armed with nuclear warheads and launch them “with-in minutes” as stated by Gen. Kayani after Mumbai attacks when Inida talked of surgical strikes against Pakistan. The US has a PlaN B but not the balls to execute that plan.
Pakistan will do whatever is in its best national interests.

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By: Aamir Ali http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/19/pakistan-islamists-in-a-deal-with-china-communists-a-sign-of-the-times/comment-page-2/#comment-13315 Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:17:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1962#comment-13315 Most of the posts on this topic by Indians have nothing to do with the topic.

The Jamaat-e-Islami is a “religio-political” party in Pakistan. They are no terrorists. They are also politically foolish and engage in constant protests all the time. Their decision to boycott the 2008 elections has put them in political oblivion, and signing deals like the one with China, gets back favorable coverage and re-entry into political arena.

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By: rajeev http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/19/pakistan-islamists-in-a-deal-with-china-communists-a-sign-of-the-times/comment-page-2/#comment-13277 Mon, 23 Feb 2009 07:41:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1962#comment-13277 Umair:
@Personally I think the US Army is making mistakes in Afghanistan. While Kyrgyz airbase has closed down, supply routes in Pakistan are vulnerable than ever before, they have ordered another 17000 troops into Afghanistan. The big question is, how will US troops sustain themselves in Afghanistan? The logistics will include supplies of fuel, food and ammunition for troops. Afghanistan is a landlocked country, it does not have a port. Airlift operations will be very expensive, besides they can only provide limited supplies. Moreover, how will they fly in? from where? will Iran give them access?
–Supply route is the major issue for USA and that;s where US needed Pak help. How about Gawdar port in Baluchistan? For whatever reasons US is not getting Pak help. One reason could be the one offered by you that ” Pakistan is playing its own game on its own terms.” and keeping the militants alive. The operation in Afghanistan is not working out well. IF USA returns defeated, the vacuum there and the militants will gain power and this time you cannot request them to leave from Pakistan nor can you flush them—such a neagtive strategy faiked you earlier (Taliban) and will add to your misery. As Mauryan said do not fool yourself that your army scored a victory over Soviets.
@Pakistan Army is playing it much smarter, if we keep a lid on things in FATA region everything will be fine.—–Only you can live in this denial but is sad since you know the history, abilities and resources of Pakistan. USA and China cannot help you forever. You cannot get help by putting NUKES to your head and say I am going to blow everyone up. The smart move is longterm startgey and you do not have-Pakistan has no political thinker—only generals. People might be overreacting but the fact is Pakistan is in deep trouble. If US gives up on you you are done and roasted. They know plan B. They are your teachers.
Wish you guys start a ling term strategy and quit terrorism as policy tool and industry. None of What you said makes SWATIS feel comfortable if they Want Taliban to go unless Taliban is informally accepted as rule makers.

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By: Mauryan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/19/pakistan-islamists-in-a-deal-with-china-communists-a-sign-of-the-times/comment-page-2/#comment-13244 Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:24:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1962#comment-13244 Umair writes: “Pakistan military knows there is no military solution to the problem. Rajeev, this is the same Pakistan Army which fought the Soviet Union in Afghanistan for ten years(1979-1989)and defeated a super power. During that time Pakistan worked closely with CIA and US, today Pakistan is playing its own game on its own terms. This is the right thing to do, we will do whatever is in the best interest of Pakistan.”

Pakistan military has only relied on military solution to everything. Do not delude yourself. They did not even allow democracy to take root in your country. They periodically took over the government and destroyed the system completely. I don’t think you are aware of the famous quote that is floating around in international circles: “Every country has a military. In Pakistan, the military has a country.” Your country has too big a military for its needs and it has justified its size by creating an enemy out of India.

Lie # 1: Pakistani military did not defeat the Soviet Union, with US help. The US defeated the Soviet military by using the Afghan mujahideen. Pakistan offered its land and services for that purpose. It was the US made stinger missiles, Madrasas and Afghan fighters who did the job. Pakistanis are good at only one thing – surrendering and switching sides shamelessly. Your system is made up mostly of cowards who use every opportunity to slide, slip and deceive and lie their heads off. That is how your country has survived for this long. There is nothing to feel proud in this. What other achievements can you show?

Pakistan is playing its own games – that is the problem. In fact, there are several parties inside Pakistan playing different games at the same time – the Taliban has one game. Zardari and his men have another game. The military/ISI has another. It is nobody’s business. But, it has serious repercussions in the international arena. Hence you have others taking a closer look at your country.

Pakistan’s best interest – For 60 odd years, what interest has your country shown? War, war, war, enemy, enemy, Kashmir, Kashmir, Jihad, Jihad, Taliban, Taliban and nothing else. An entire generation has grown believing in lies repeated a thousand times. Start reading international news to know about your own country. Magazines like Pak Tribune are cheap trash.

Good luck

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By: Anitha http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/19/pakistan-islamists-in-a-deal-with-china-communists-a-sign-of-the-times/comment-page-1/#comment-13195 Sat, 21 Feb 2009 21:38:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=1962#comment-13195 China communnist party (CCP) has a similar deal with Indian political party, Communist party of india (CPI) and now we have rebel moists in assam backed by china..China also has a similar deal with moists in Nepal, who recently took over ruling and are selling nepal part by part to china..so good luck pakis..

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