Comments on: The Pakistan Army and “the history of the stick” http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/27/the-pakistan-army-and-the-history-of-the-stick/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: rajeev http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/27/the-pakistan-army-and-the-history-of-the-stick/comment-page-2/#comment-16442 Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:24:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2059#comment-16442 @So one of the Mumbai gunmen was a Pakistani, so what ? Does it prove the entire state/nation of Pakistan was guilty of Mumbai attack ? No
– Posted by Aamir Ali
—-Yes. It is with the the direct support of Pakistan or Pakisan looked away–means the same thing. So again, yes Pakistan is involved—stop this ridiculous words “entire state/nation”–Pakistan is invloved–swallow it whatever way you want.

@What Mumbai attack proves is 10 youngsters can invade India and paralyze an entire city for 3 days. After that Indian posters come to Internet blogs and rail against Pakistan.
—evidence Mister.

@Not only is India an ignorant country but cowardly bunch of fools as well.
–Really—lol
look who is talking: By now Taliban is 50Km away from Islamabad and such fear they have created of the beheadings that Paki Army is not in the mood to fight with them. Yiu guuys sure are masters at killing millions in East Pakistan–bith Muslims and Hindus and Balochis.

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By: Aamir Ali http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/27/the-pakistan-army-and-the-history-of-the-stick/comment-page-2/#comment-15521 Thu, 02 Apr 2009 04:21:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2059#comment-15521 Funny to hear Indians lecturing Pakistanis on Pakistan. It shows their arrogance and their ignorance.

So one of the Mumbai gunmen was a Pakistani, so what ? Does it prove the entire state/nation of Pakistan was guilty of Mumbai attack ? No

What Mumbai attack proves is 10 youngsters can invade India and paralyze an entire city for 3 days. After that Indian posters come to Internet blogs and rail against Pakistan.

Not only is India an ignorant country but cowardly bunch of fools as well.

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By: shah http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/27/the-pakistan-army-and-the-history-of-the-stick/comment-page-2/#comment-15375 Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:12:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2059#comment-15375 I think you do not know what we know!the war going on in the name of fighting terrorism is more like a “world semi cold world war”.There, on afghan land only half is being played,where the rest is that there is no nation in the world which is not participating in it ,each of them is using different tactics to destruct their own enemies.every country knows that in this nuclear age there is no room for conventional war,while war on terror had proved to be a golden opportunity for them to form hidden power blocks in between different countries.
while Pakistan & ISI are treated like a chaiwala in a casino full of gangsters,as soon as some one loses some money to others,that causes chaiwala a few punches to ease out the loser’s frustration.

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By: INDIAN http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/27/the-pakistan-army-and-the-history-of-the-stick/comment-page-2/#comment-14214 Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:24:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2059#comment-14214 Symptoms for 21’st dec 2012 are already showing up(islamic terrorism well supported by CHINESE copy cats & U.S 2 some extent).The WORLD should wake up and act swiftly 2 prevent an APOCALYPSE.

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By: Jacob http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/27/the-pakistan-army-and-the-history-of-the-stick/comment-page-2/#comment-13835 Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:03:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2059#comment-13835 It is indeed surprising that we are unable to accept certain fundamental facts.

Pakistan needs to stop thinking that the terrorists that they created are good people who do good things for them.

Pakistan needs to focus on defeating the same snakes that they created.

Pakistan needs to stop going to the Army every time they are in trouble. Trust me, this is the most difficult of the above three things.

India needs to be watchful as ever to ensure that internal terrorist elements who are flaming the minority community are dealt with properly. A good thing I think would be for us to start eliminating a few like in Punjab and support the forward thinking elements. I think once the minor parties like SP, BSP, RJD and folks like them are put to notice on national security and asked to defend their cerdentials, they should be able realize the importance of this aspect).

If we do a bad job at it in which one too many innocent folks are killed, its going to backfire. But no tolerance for terrorists.

A complete upheaval of the security setup is needed as well. A serious job at it too.

There is no better time to do this than now. At the same time, we need to start engaging the leadership of this community about the cost of associating any bit of support to these folks. This is the most difficult task for India. For this, we need to cut off the links of these leaders from external elements (I am in no doubt of the fact that these leaders are in talks with global leaders of instability – Saudi Arabia and Pakistan).

India needs to continue its economic focus. No one respects a pauper.

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By: azaddp http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/27/the-pakistan-army-and-the-history-of-the-stick/comment-page-2/#comment-13820 Wed, 04 Mar 2009 02:34:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2059#comment-13820 AURAN writes,

Can each of you post at least one thing about your neighbouring country

Sure….lets see……….

Yes they make tasty food
yes they play good cricket
they are conservative and
less alcoholic

now, can you reciprocate please, say something good about India.

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By: bulletfish http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/27/the-pakistan-army-and-the-history-of-the-stick/comment-page-2/#comment-13774 Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:46:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2059#comment-13774 MZBH wrote:
Stop hating Pakistan and detesting its existence- when your leadership can accept that reality, then we will have peace in South Asia.

What reality is that?

That Pakistan is the epicentre of world terrorism!
Your glorious Pak Army SURRENDER to the Taliban!
That you now have Taliban taking over Swat!
That you guaranteed security for the Sri Lankan team and now THIS incident happens.

You Pakis were in denial afer denial after denial about Pakistani involvement in the Mumbai attacks. Yet, surprise, surprise; you come out admitting your involvement in the end and sack a minister! This is irrefutable!!!

In India WE caught 1 of the 10 gunmen who was… surprise, surprise a PAKISTANI. Even his father came forward, but no media were allowed to interview the father.

Our leadership here were economically reforming India while your Pakistani leadership was running off to the IMF with the begging bowl.

We, in India, do not hate you in Pakistan. Its just that there is absolutely nothing to like about Pakistan. No one in the world needs to terrorise Pakistan. It does that perfectly by itself.

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By: anup http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/27/the-pakistan-army-and-the-history-of-the-stick/comment-page-2/#comment-13768 Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:18:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2059#comment-13768 myra
“Auran you wrote:-Thanks. That’s a good suggestion,
“Oh for the love of god will all of you please shut up! Haven’t you heard the old proverb “If you have nothing nice to say then say nothing at all”?

— sounds like sermons to me, wherein lies a suggestion?

“I used to find the bickering funny but now it just drones on and on.”

—Amazingly the actual droning is applauded…wonder whether resorting to that will be looked upon with awe & respect & termed as serious business…

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By: Global Watcher http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/27/the-pakistan-army-and-the-history-of-the-stick/comment-page-2/#comment-13755 Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:41:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2059#comment-13755 @Myra,

Myra, it seems as though most of the population of Pakistani’s are living in a state of “Eyes Wide Shut”, or “Plausible Denial”.

The world is grown increasingly frustrated with these people who still have their “stick” pointed at India. They view the Jihadi-Terrorist-Uprising as a temporary passing phase, that is “not to be worried about”, as they are getting killed everyday themselves.

Could you please start a post about a Pakistani awakening against Madrassas, jihadism, terrorism and embracing India as a friend? All of the postings here, not one of them ever addressed an uprising or awakening of a sort in Pakistan against Radical Islam. Radical Islam is pervasive throughout the Pakistani army, that is why they always have their stick pointed at India, the root cause is Radical Islam, this is the same radical Islam that brought about the formation of Pakistani Deobandism. Now, this same extremism which formed Pakistan, is tearing it apart like a cancer.

This awakening topic is very important to see if Pakistani’s have the courage, inner strength and will to fight for their country. I am interested to see what they have to say about radicalization of their religion, how they view their Indian neighbours and whether they truly want peace with them. It all starts and ends with the citizens, Myra. I advocate topics which question Pakistani’s to seek conciliation with India and fight radical expansist and entitlementistic Islam.

We can go about blogging about so many different topics, but we are never generating the right topics to hone in on root causes of terrorism and hatreds.

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By: rajeev http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/02/27/the-pakistan-army-and-the-history-of-the-stick/comment-page-2/#comment-13745 Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:35:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2059#comment-13745 Stop hating Pakistan and detesting its existence- when your leadership can accept that reality, then we will have peace in South Asia.
– Posted by MZBH

-MZBH, if India blames pak, you do not have to do the same because 1st is true, 2nd is untrue. If you want to solve the Lahore case, do not be on wrong track.

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