Comments on: Pakistan’s general and the warring politicians http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/03/13/pakistans-general-and-the-warring-politicians/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Aamir Ali http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/03/13/pakistans-general-and-the-warring-politicians/comment-page-2/#comment-15518 Thu, 02 Apr 2009 04:17:02 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2207#comment-15518 @anju

Indians should also learn to be relevant while posting on this blog.

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By: anju2008 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/03/13/pakistans-general-and-the-warring-politicians/comment-page-2/#comment-14939 Mon, 23 Mar 2009 03:03:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2207#comment-14939 India makes world’s cheapest car , Pakistan makes world’s cheapest terrorist

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By: Aamir Ali http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/03/13/pakistans-general-and-the-warring-politicians/comment-page-2/#comment-14876 Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:45:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2207#comment-14876 General Kiyani is doing a good job and has restored the army’s image in the eyes of the public.

@Mauryan

Chai keeps you sober, which is why our nukes are secure. I don’t know what you have been drinking to dream up all these scenarios of “Taliban” getting control of nukes.

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By: bulletfish http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/03/13/pakistans-general-and-the-warring-politicians/comment-page-2/#comment-14548 Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:29:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2207#comment-14548 I seem to have gotten bored with hearing, listening and reading about Pakistan recently. Ever since Benazir Bhutto was assassinated things have been going downhill fast. Since then all news stories stemming from Pakistan have been bad, negative and terrible. I just now have looked at websites of BBC, CNN, NY Times, Times (UK) and a few more. All the front page news is about Pakistan. Frankly, it is enough to make you roll your eyes and say, “Oh, to hell with it all!”

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By: anju2008 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/03/13/pakistans-general-and-the-warring-politicians/comment-page-2/#comment-14539 Sun, 15 Mar 2009 06:08:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2207#comment-14539 The turn of events in Pakistan do not augur well for a civilian society , but the question whether Pakistan is at all a civilian society-where army backed by most dreaded and maligned intelligence agency ISI with active support from islamic terror outfits work only with limited agenda: to cause as much damage to India by waging low intensity war using these terror outfits, secondly to spread jehad all over the world as if Pakistanis are custodians of islam or islam is in danger and control the drug and opium growing region of Afghanistan ? To achieve these objectives when the international community get fed up with Pak army, they stage some election and ask Pakistanis to vote for a particular group of politicians, Zardari , Gillani and Nawaz Sharif are no different from them ,Pakistanis like very obedient citizens, select some of these politicians nominated .

For all practical purposes, Pakistan is controlled by Pakistani army and its stooge ISI ,whether directly or through their political nominees , so it does not make any difference who is in power.

The nefarious designs of Pakistan are exposed before the world , and the presence of nuclear weapons and the proliferators like A.Q.Khan , pose gravest danger to international community . It is incumbent upon international community to prosecute Khan and his cronies for crimes against humanity and take control of all nuclear arsenals.

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By: Mauryan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/03/13/pakistans-general-and-the-warring-politicians/comment-page-2/#comment-14529 Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:50:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2207#comment-14529 Umair,

We are not so concerned about your country having the nukes. What your country will do with the nukes will not matter to you, because you are not going to be affected by it. If your jihadi machinery takes over and has the same attitude that you have, then it increases the probability of trigger happy action that will lead to mutually assured destruction of the sub-continent. If your non state actors get through the porous Indian border with dirty nukes and cause havoc, your establishment will wash them off (look at how they acted after the Mumbai attacks). Musharraf denied that there were any Pakistani soldiers involved in the Kargill conflict and later on it is being mentioned in the Pakistani circles about your soldiers. After the Mumbai conflict, the US almost came close to forcing Pakistan to stay quiet and have India go at some of the LeT camps inside POK. Somehow that got set aside as Pakistani establishment agreed to take the next course of action – accepting that the terrorists were Pakistanis. The US is very worried that its objectives in the region will not be met if a conflict arises between India and Pakistan. Otherwise they don’t care if the two countries decimate each other with nukes. They’ll condemn it in a forum and move on. If one more terrorist strike happens inside India, I can bet there is going to be a bloody nuclear war between the two countries. Do not celebrate it. It will be hell fire and not only us, you will go too. Do not day dream about becoming a martyr and having access to 18 virgins. No suicide bomber from the Islamic world has come back to tell us about it.

Realize that your country is being manipulated by external powers to meet their objectives – the US, UK, China etc. The reason why they do not mind your country taking a periodic bite at India is because they want to keep your country under frenzy at all times. If India and Pakistan choke each other’s throat and fall off the cliff, guess who gets to gain.

As time goes on, more and more things are becoming real. Do not drink too much chai.

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By: rajeev http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/03/13/pakistans-general-and-the-warring-politicians/comment-page-2/#comment-14516 Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:10:56 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2207#comment-14516 Umair:
@On Pak Nuclear weapons:

“Some of the American technicians have had direct access to the nuclear weapons themselves, these sources said.
There is no denying that US is trying to check Pak nukes.”

US is definetely eyeing the Pak and Iran’s Nuke programmes (wrt Israel). From US’s POV, unless there is total US total control, it is as good as no control. I will doubt they have total control. Reports might be overestimting and you might be underestimating.

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By: rajeev http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/03/13/pakistans-general-and-the-warring-politicians/comment-page-2/#comment-14512 Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:52:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2207#comment-14512 @Just to comment about Nuclear Weapons, I do not understand why Pakistan cannot sell this technology to “rogue nations” only because a few elite countries say that you cannot.
– Posted by Ahmed

Ahmed: Are you the same “Ahmed” (Qureshi) with blog/website. If yes, then I pity Pakistan. The responsible people like you feel that there is “nothing wrong” to sell nuclear technology (and you do not even point out civil use) to “rogue nations”. This is not a matter of “a few elite countries say that you cannot” as you feel, it is moral and ethical question if you yourself feel they are “rogue nations”. If that still does not convince you a bit, then think about the safety issues—you and your near and dear ones. You can give Nukes to the rogues, but cannot ask them to use the way you want. They can vaporize anyone with out Pakistan’s permission when they feel they have nothing to lose. There is a difference between fighting against the “nuclear apartheid” and helping the rogues or irresponsibles.

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By: Kumar http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/03/13/pakistans-general-and-the-warring-politicians/comment-page-2/#comment-14501 Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:22:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2207#comment-14501 Lawlessness in Pakistan must put to an end by invading pakistan.Since they have abused their freedom by producing and exporting muslim terrorists everywhere, we need to revoke their freedom.Mosques and Madrasas must be the prime target of detruction as they are main harboring ground for terrorists.
As long as they(PAK) are confined as bond servant to US,world need not to worry about Pak’s smuggled nukes from china.Worl must concentrate on eradicating root cause of terrorism(many believe it is ISLAM).

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By: Umair http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/03/13/pakistans-general-and-the-warring-politicians/comment-page-2/#comment-14496 Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:52:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2207#comment-14496 Rajeev
Thank you for posting the link. Please note the following from that link:
“Yet disputes arose immediately. There were legal implications about sharing such sensitive military technology with a foreign power, and some senior U.S. officials balked at using the PALs, thinking they would give the Pakistanis too much insight into America’s own nuclear war fighting system. “The Paks are smart. What they can see and examine, they can re-engineer,” said one.”

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