Comments on: Garrisons and force protection crowd out other objectives in Afghanistan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/03/27/guest-contribution-afghanistans-garrisons/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Kris http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/03/27/guest-contribution-afghanistans-garrisons/comment-page-2/#comment-15795 Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:16:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2346#comment-15795 I disagree with what the journalist has said about us losing the COIN war because of us being behind too much armor and protection. We’re losing the COIN war not because of us trying to protect ourselves, but simply because there are too many rules and we worry more about popular opinion than really winning a war. We are not able to fully implement our warfighting tools to ensure a victory, no matter how much we disagree with it but the the dirtiest player wins. Additionally, we protect ourselves so much because the country and the majority of the people are not worth risking ourselves anymore than we already do. As a numerous deployer myself I will say that it is not worth it at all.

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By: anup http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/03/27/guest-contribution-afghanistans-garrisons/comment-page-2/#comment-15722 Sun, 05 Apr 2009 08:18:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2346#comment-15722 Mullah Shahin
“For everyone to know that there is no Sharia court in the world for last 100 years except Sauidi Arabia.”

—Care to spell out what’s it’s track record for the up-liftment @ empowerment of women.

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By: Mullah Shahin http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/03/27/guest-contribution-afghanistans-garrisons/comment-page-2/#comment-15712 Sat, 04 Apr 2009 22:20:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2346#comment-15712 I like to make one thing clear that “Honor Killing” is not an Islamic teaching. It is a babarious practice from pre-Islamic time (Jahilila).Islamically to punish somebody in the accusation of adultery it requires four witness and the verdict from a Kadi (Sharia court judge). Those who are trying to push their evil practices in the name of Islam they are the enemy of Islam.For everyone to know that there is no Sharia court in the world for last 100 years except Sauidi Arabia.

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By: sweeny http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/03/27/guest-contribution-afghanistans-garrisons/comment-page-2/#comment-15643 Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:45:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2346#comment-15643 emptiness & fullness
set opponents off on the wrong track so that they can never fight with you. when opponents come to attack you do not fight with them but rather set up a
STRATEGIC CHANGE to confuse them (can’t be that hard)
and make them uncertain, deflecting them from their original intention to attack, making them reluctant to fight with you.
when Sima Yi was going to attack Zhuge Liang, Zhuge took down his flags & put away his battle drums, opened the gates and swept the road.
Yi suspected an ambush, so he withdrew his forces and fled.(variations on this theme could be fun)
when you induce others to construct a formation while you yourself are FORMLESS then you are concentrated while the opponent is DIVIDED.

what is orthodox to you ,make opponents see as unorthodox; visa versa. this is inducing others to construct a formation. to be able to use the unorthodox as orthodox & use the orthodox as unorthodox, CHANGE in a whirl, making yourself UNFATHOMABLE to opponents, is being FORMLESS. once the opponent’s formation is seen, then you mass your troops against it. since your FORM is not revealed, the opponent will surely divide up his forces for security.
when you are concentrated into one while the opponent is divided into ten, you are attacking at a concentration of 10 to 1, so you outnumber the enemy.
do not go to the trouble of elaborate preparations.

while being deeply entrenched & highly barricaded, NOT allowing ANY INFORMATION about yourself to BECOME KNOWN, go out & in formlessly attacking & taking unfathomably. harry & confuse enemies so that they divide their troops in fear, trying to cover themselves on all sides. it is like climbing a high mountain to spy on a citadel!
don’t let the enemy know where you will clash, for if they know they will mass their strength to resist you.
the more defences you induce your enemy to adopt the more impoverished your enemy will be.

so if you know the place and time of battle you can join the fight from a thousnd miles away.
[excerpts from the Art of War by Master Sun]

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By: anup http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/03/27/guest-contribution-afghanistans-garrisons/comment-page-2/#comment-15624 Fri, 03 Apr 2009 04:43:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2346#comment-15624 Courtesy Umair
Excerpts from- Inter Services Pubilc Relations, Pakistan

“The term extremism is generally used to elucidate the activities or ideologies of individuals or groups outside the perceived political centre of a society.”
“. 9/11 is indicative of frustration coming to an extreme juncture, thus reaching its critical mass and exploding in the form of terrorism.”
“US needed Pakistan to organize proxy war against … Soviet Union, by promoting Jihad culture through religious outfits that were showered with weapon, money and other resources… thus the Jihad culture acquired roots here in Pakistani society. Pakistan’s geo-political location rendered it appropriate to be used as a centre of all activities…”
“The current state of instability in Pakistan is a result of a series of direct intercessions in Afghanistan by USSR and the United States.”
“Madaris have a failing in the course they teach one sect as true Islam and others as false . This insufficient education makes these students amateurs and quacks, fodder for the ever increasing disharmony among sects.”
“Taliban established peace in Afghanistan for the first time ever since 1979. Osama Bin Laden along with his Arab and non Arab accomplices remained in Afghanistan till US piloted attack following the incident of 9/11.
United States, West and international community should be relentlessly harked back that Pakistan’s current fatalities at the hands of extremists and terrorists is because of our coalition with them, either against Soviet invasion or being used as a front line state in Global War on Terrorism. Pakistan did not get any thing in return except adding enemies for itself both at domestic and global arena.”

“India is investing greatly on these terrorists to cause instability in Pakistan”
“India incorrectly assumed that Pakistan is behind the indigenous Kashmiri’s struggle…”

—Umair, How come almost every Pakistani & govt. agencies have the ‘same’ sound-bytes to offer- do the universities in Pakistan conduct special brain-washing & anti-India / anti-west courses? I would love to attend one such course.

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By: akamaial http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/03/27/guest-contribution-afghanistans-garrisons/comment-page-2/#comment-15620 Fri, 03 Apr 2009 04:18:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2346#comment-15620 Unless we go to an absolute, no holds barred war, we will lose big time…count on it!

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By: Shahin http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/03/27/guest-contribution-afghanistans-garrisons/comment-page-2/#comment-15608 Fri, 03 Apr 2009 00:25:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2346#comment-15608 I like to make one thing clear that “Honor Killing” is not Islamic. It is a babarious practice from pre-Islamic time (Jahilila). To punish somebody in the accusation of adultery it requires four witness and permission of the Kadi (Sharia court judge). Those who are trying to push their evil practices they are enemy of Islam.

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By: rajeev http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/03/27/guest-contribution-afghanistans-garrisons/comment-page-2/#comment-15605 Thu, 02 Apr 2009 23:34:53 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2346#comment-15605 @We are STILL in Iraq, with 4000+ casualties, and now in Afghanistan we are drumming up war again, only this time we are in economic recession.
– Posted by Aron

-For a change let us count the innocent killed by Westerners.

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By: rajeev http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/03/27/guest-contribution-afghanistans-garrisons/comment-page-2/#comment-15604 Thu, 02 Apr 2009 23:31:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2346#comment-15604 —Almighty have mercy & hopefully in the dawn of the future we won’t have to bear ‘loud-cheap advises-from-the hypocritical westerners’

–Patrick gives that with “I love you”.

I think when the bomber nuked Hiroshima/Nagaski and killed 250,000 ?? and gave diseases to generation—he also said “I love you”. 100,000 innocent Iraqis (read as children, kids, men and women) got killed in a show of firepower to take out their former friend Sadaam Hussain–al with I love you. But Shahin, you keep on shining since patrick wants it. Interesting. Cannot get hold of such nice guys so easily off the net. Also read that it is not Isreal who is bombing the kids in school in Gaza it is US–it is all US support–I love you again.

Indian-Pakistanis can verbally nuke but westerners do in reality–the reality shows–I love you Patrick and would like to teach you american football, baseball and cricket too.

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By: Glad http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/03/27/guest-contribution-afghanistans-garrisons/comment-page-2/#comment-15577 Thu, 02 Apr 2009 19:31:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2346#comment-15577 “In the sport of baseball, this is referred to as “batting the cycle”. And you are one hell of a hitter.
Please continue to spread our “disease” if you like. We are tired of it. But you, Mauryan, definitly have the tools to wield that weapon. Who has wronged YOU? If you continue to live in the past, the world will leave you there. If you preach hate and fear for the future, you WILL BE RIGHT. If you use this hate to make yourself strong, you will fade away that much quicker. I am an American. We are learning this fact, and I fear we may not “get it” in time. Hopefully, we are realizing that our feeling of being “wronged” by the British should have left our hearts the day they left. Don’t forget, just forgive.
Strength is privilege, not a right. Abuse the weak, physically or verbally, and they will rise against you. And so the cycle continues. Show kindness to your foes, not magnamity when it suits you. Help someone, not attack them. I promise you will feel better. And they will too.
No one is or ever will be “educated”, but we are ALL learning.

I love you.
Peace.”

– Posted by Patrick

I wish more people would think like you Patrick, truly wise words, some people on this blog need to take notes.

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