Comments on: India launches Israeli-made satellite for eyes in the sky http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/04/20/india-launches-israeli-made-satellite-for-eyes-in-the-sky/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: rajeev http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/04/20/india-launches-israeli-made-satellite-for-eyes-in-the-sky/comment-page-5/#comment-17019 Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:44:53 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2486#comment-17019 @also i dont know if indians are helping the balochs in their struggle , if if they are , its superb.
– Posted by Gill

-Gill: India has done in the past and shut down these RAw missions on moral grounds way back in mid 1990s once Punjab militancy was eradicated.
US yesterday confirmed that there ar no proofs India is helping anti-Pakistan elements and also told Pakistan to focus inside on Taliban et al.

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By: Mortal http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/04/20/india-launches-israeli-made-satellite-for-eyes-in-the-sky/comment-page-5/#comment-17017 Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:00:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2486#comment-17017 Pakistan’s collective karma has simply accumulated negativity. And it will end by itself. No matter how much one can try and no matter which community one belongs to, karma will always affect. No one is an exception to it.
– Posted by Mauryan

I agree with this concept. No one is above Karma, individual or nation. No nation is perfect & every country has both good & bad karma but it seems, Pakistan as a nation, has accumulated too much of the bad karma & too little of the good. So, it has to pay the price for it’s sins.

Bad Karma can be diminished or absolved, as long as a person or nation, admits it’s sins, asks for genuine forgiveness & repents. But from what I see, Pakistan as a nation, is not willing to even admit any of it’s sins (be it the genocide of 3 million bengalis or the massacring of countless Indian civilians via terrorism), let alone ask for forgiveness or repent. Unless the Pakistani nation admits & repents for it’s sins, I’m afraid, much worse is yet to come, for it.

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By: gill http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/04/20/india-launches-israeli-made-satellite-for-eyes-in-the-sky/comment-page-5/#comment-17014 Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:39:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2486#comment-17014 http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/ StoryPage.aspx?sectionName=ViewsEditoria lSectionPage&id=17977516-071d-49a8-931f- 827b9a256670&Headline=When+attacked%2c+w e+must+hit+back

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By: Nikhil http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/04/20/india-launches-israeli-made-satellite-for-eyes-in-the-sky/comment-page-5/#comment-17013 Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:23:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2486#comment-17013 Because Indians have sent RISAT, Pakistan also has to send one; even if it may not be necessary. Had Indians tied a monkey from the deepest jungles of Africa to that satellite, Pakistan will follow suit. Pakistan has no choice because it’s matter of balance(?) of power and national pride.

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By: Gill http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/04/20/india-launches-israeli-made-satellite-for-eyes-in-the-sky/comment-page-5/#comment-16999 Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:04:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2486#comment-16999 also i dont know if indians are helping the balochs in their struggle , if if they are , its superb .

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By: Gill http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/04/20/india-launches-israeli-made-satellite-for-eyes-in-the-sky/comment-page-5/#comment-16998 Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:03:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2486#comment-16998 It is heartening to know india has now an eye in the sky . although indian officials deny it , the sat. is obviously for defense purposes . I anticipate the pakistanis will try and pull off another spectacular attack on india in the near future , the 40 odd terrorista who were killed recently might have been sent for the same objective (or were here to disrupt elections).I think it is not pragmatic to expect pakistanis to act against these jihadi elements . we should strengthen our own defenses and crush the pawns they send here . Also we should wait for and support the voices of dessent in pakistan to grow . lasting peace in india can be achieved by letting [actively causing] pakistan crumble and let the different states loose on one another . they deserve it .
pakistan already has lost bangladesh , and is on the brink of bankruptcy and large parts of its territory are lawless . If even now pakistanis have not learnt their lesson then they probably never will . and hoping that they will is just being naieve

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By: rajeev http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/04/20/india-launches-israeli-made-satellite-for-eyes-in-the-sky/comment-page-5/#comment-16995 Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:31:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2486#comment-16995 @Keith
I understand the concerns in the west, but can you please tell me what alternatives did Pakistan have? How did it all started, India tested a nuclear device back in 1974.
-by Umair

Umair: I have told you earlier also about this. Nehru’s India was into NOn-Aligned movemnt/peacefulf co-existence, not into this some power play–he did not accept UN Permament membership and asked that to be given to China invading the neighbour in any way.

1962 Indo-China war changed all that. They backstabbed and not to go off the topic you Pakistan was mighty encouraged and invaded India in 1965 and Pakistan is still licking the wounds.
Remember this quote (wikipidpedia) and never ever forget when you bring India Pakistan and nuclear test into question:

“596 is the codename of the People’s Republic of China’s first nuclear weapons test, detonated on October 16, 1964 at the Lop Nur test site. It was a uranium-235 implosion fission device and had a yield of 22 kilotons. With the test, China became the fifth nuclear power.”

Chinese backstabbing and the above fact and then India had to do Pokhran and much later the nuclear test. India could have done anytime-Nehru was not into that and was into peaceful means of engagement. Little did he know that the neighbors are into “pieceful” not peaceful means.

That Pakistan followed India is just superficial. in reality Pakistan’s nuclear program dates back to the 1950s.

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By: Mauryan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/04/20/india-launches-israeli-made-satellite-for-eyes-in-the-sky/comment-page-5/#comment-16993 Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:12:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2486#comment-16993 GW,

Pakistan’s formation was done due to the selfish interests of dons like Jinnah. I am a firm believer in the law of karma. If you start with hatred and violence, you end with the same. Pakistan’s downfall had to come from within and it has. These fools are still looking at India as the enemy. India has paid for its bad karma by being enslaved by the Turks, Mughals, the British and the Nehru family. After 1991, India’s good karma has begun to take effect. That is why I want our country to be fair and not engage in any acts that will add negative karma. India should simply focus on progress while protecting itself with minimal effort and continue on. Pakistan’s collective karma has simply accumulated negativity. And it will end by itself. No matter how much one can try and no matter which community one belongs to, karma will always affect. No one is an exception to it.

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By: Global Watcher http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/04/20/india-launches-israeli-made-satellite-for-eyes-in-the-sky/comment-page-5/#comment-16988 Sun, 26 Apr 2009 03:36:56 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2486#comment-16988 Mauryan said:

“Today’s Pakistan resembles a Mafia system that has a proper military, intelligence and a country at its disposal. The system bears all resemblance to a drug cartel in South America where drug barons dictate terms to everyone in the country. Mafia barons survive by double dealing. They befriend powerful people and manipulate them so that when they commit their crimes, most of their actions are either ignored or covered up. But Mafia dons never die a normal death. They die at the hands of each other or the police. India worries about Pakistan, the way city-folks worry about a crime-ridden neighborhood in their vicinity. I see no difference between a radicalized Pakistan and the gangsters of big cities, Aryan Nations, KKK etc which survive on ideology, hatred, misguided youth, violence etc. They belong to the prisons.”

Mauryan I agree with you, the Punjabi’s are the main Mafia family in Pakistan, then you got the Baloch, Sindh,etc. The drug war will be like the different Ethnic Battalions and Platoons, I forsee a possibility, that if Punjab becomes overrun and the Punjabi Army Crime Family of Pakistan politically loses to the Taliban, then I could see a “Mafia” war breaking out, where each Battalion of the Army is looking to protect their own Ethnic homeland first and loyalties will shift those regions as those ethnics who have had a bone to pick with the Punjabi Fauji’s, they will challenge the power of the Punjabi’s, this is one way how disintegration may happen from within, and take the form of a “Mafia” war, where there is a PA rebellion from within, like we saw in Bangladesh, just recently where junior officers murdered senior officers. That would be considered a high level hit at the mafia bosses themselves.

The Punjabi Fauji’s don’t give a rat’s axx about the average Pakistani, they only care to look after their own selfish business model, that being keeping India an enemy and making sure that enough Islamic and political propaganda in Pakistan keeps those people stupid enough to believe it and hopes that they will be willing to back any sort of future artificially created wars with India.

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By: Mauryan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/04/20/india-launches-israeli-made-satellite-for-eyes-in-the-sky/comment-page-5/#comment-16986 Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:01:35 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2486#comment-16986 Today’s Pakistan resembles a Mafia system that has a proper military, intelligence and a country at its disposal. The system bears all resemblance to a drug cartel in South America where drug barons dictate terms to everyone in the country. Mafia barons survive by double dealing. They befriend powerful people and manipulate them so that when they commit their crimes, most of their actions are either ignored or covered up. But Mafia dons never die a normal death. They die at the hands of each other or the police. India worries about Pakistan, the way city-folks worry about a crime-ridden neighborhood in their vicinity. I see no difference between a radicalized Pakistan and the gangsters of big cities, Aryan Nations, KKK etc which survive on ideology, hatred, misguided youth, violence etc. They belong to the prisons.

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