Comments on: From unemployed teachers to ghost schools in Pakistan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/04/28/from-unemployed-teachers-to-ghost-schools-in-pakistan/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Myra MacDonald http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/04/28/from-unemployed-teachers-to-ghost-schools-in-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-17241 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:21:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2531#comment-17241 The discussion has gone way off topic (about education in Pakistan) so I’m going to close comments on this particular post.

Many comments are also getting abusive – I haven’t got time to got through them all and delete the most abusive ones. But maybe some posters could re-read them and think about the impression it gives to the outside world.

When every subject under discussion, including education, deteriorates into a slanging match between Indians and Pakistanis, it tends to convince outsiders that all the problems in the region come down to India and Pakistan. That does not do either country justice.

Most of you know the situation is far more complex than that. It would help in future posts if comments can capture the complexities, rather than descend into insults.

Myra

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By: Global Watcher http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/04/28/from-unemployed-teachers-to-ghost-schools-in-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-17239 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:07:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2531#comment-17239 Punjabiyaar, Mauryan

How dare inhuman monkeys like you dare to even think that you are human beings. Jeez. Pakistan has existed from the Dawn of time, for almost 7000 years.

Please note the sarcasm and humour, in case you have to do a double take.

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By: punjabiyaar http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/04/28/from-unemployed-teachers-to-ghost-schools-in-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-17233 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:43:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2531#comment-17233 Umair Wrote:
“We live in an unjust world, poor Palestinians face state sponsored Israeli terrorism”

What about Tibetans, China has occupied their lands and thrown Dalai lama out of his country.

Why do Pakistan support China on Tibet issue. OH YES I FORGET TIBETANS ARE NOT MUSLIMS.

You double standard hypocrites.

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By: Mauryan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/04/28/from-unemployed-teachers-to-ghost-schools-in-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-17232 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:31:20 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2531#comment-17232 There are a few truths that people should know to understand the situation in South Asia:

1. There is no “moderate Taliban.”

2. There is no such thing as “Stable Pakistan”

3. There is no “Sensible Pakistani”

4. There is no such thing as “Muslims are for peace”

5. There is no such thing as “Trustworthy Pakistan”

Once this is clearly known, one will know how to deal with their logic and myths that they propagate. They have only limited beliefs that they keep repeating.

1. India is evil

2. Hindus are evil

3. India’s only purpose is to destabilize Pakistan

4. India is poor and worthless, way below Pakistan.

5. Pakistan is a land of milk and honey

6. Pakistan’s nukes will solve all their problems on illiteracy, health, agriculture, power and everything else. If India can do it with their nukes, Pakistan can do it better.

They cycle this repeatedly after every set of arguments. Any topic gets the same response. But they do not realize that their beliefs are the root cause of their current state. It will only get worse if they persist with it.

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By: Global Watcher http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/04/28/from-unemployed-teachers-to-ghost-schools-in-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-17231 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:09:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2531#comment-17231 Umair hurls Islamic Double standard vomit once more:

”We live in an unjust world, poor Palestinians face state sponsored Israeli terrorism, ”

With all due respect, thanks for the double standard once more.

Israel was formed from Palestine, the way Pakistan was formed from India. If you sympathize with Palestians, then you are sympthazing with Indians, how they have had to put up with state sponsored terrorism, ie 2002, Kargil, 1971, Mumbai and many others.

Just remember, the way you use it, your mental delusion of ”ummah” is for political purposes only, using religion in a very dirty way, it is fictitious and does not exist.

You people would butcher each other in a second over any religious or political disagreements, ie 500,000 Bengali Muslims genocided by Pakistani Army.

With all due respect, go and Fxxk your dumb axx Religiously entitled Double standard(the one formulated in your mind), we are sick of hearing you cry wolf all the time.

Don’t feed us crap about you feeling sorry for the Palestinians, cause you truly don’t, you just hate the Jews a million times more, because you have been taught to hate them from your madrasa. On that basis you claim to feel sorry for the Palestinians, who are not saints themselves either.

Just remember, if you bash Israel’s statehood, you are equally bashing Pakistani statehood.

Once again, thanks for only always pointing out a very one-sided plight of muslims, but never the plight of the other religions, or hindus, and their pain, what they have had to put up with for hundreds of years.

Enjoy your sick mental double standard, it shines though in every posting you make. You do not recognize non-muslims as equal human beings by any standard or context.

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By: Global Watcher http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/04/28/from-unemployed-teachers-to-ghost-schools-in-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-17230 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:54:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2531#comment-17230 Umair says:

“Palestinians face state sponsored Israeli terrorism,”

If you plead so much with the Palestinians, surely you should also plead with the Pakistani state sponsored terror against India.

Quit your Islamic brotherhood double standard, it is tiring us.

The way Israel was formed from Palestine, the same way Pakistan was formed from India. Poor double standard Umair, does not have the brains to understand basic fairness.

By bashing Israel, you are bashing Pakistan. The way you tell us to deal with Pakistan and it is there to stay, you should deal with Israel, it is there to stay, deal with it. Your Palestinian breatheren are untrustworthy partners in peace and can’t even agree with each and have an incoherent and corrupt government, it sounds a lot like how Pakistan is run.

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By: Mortal http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/04/28/from-unemployed-teachers-to-ghost-schools-in-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-17229 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:51:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2531#comment-17229 Umair – “So I dismiss there is hatred towards India and the west, infact you could compare Pakistanis and Indians in the UK alone and find out Pakistanis are more inclined to the western culture”

Many studies in the UK have revealed that 2nd & 3rd generation Pakistanis in the UK, are in fact even more radical than first generation Pakistani immigrants. Many of those, although born & bred in the UK, don’t consider themselves as British & are quite vocal about their hate for UK. They refuse to assimilate in main stream British culture & live in ghettos which inhibit Pakistani communities. Most of the guys who conducted the 7/7 London bombings were of Pakistani origin.

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By: Mortal http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/04/28/from-unemployed-teachers-to-ghost-schools-in-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-17227 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:11:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2531#comment-17227 Umair, If you think that western countries are still welcoming Pakistanis with open arms, you are gravely mistaken. As per the US Dept. of Justice, more than 40% of the Pakistani population of app.400,000, has been deported since 9/11. App.45,000 to 50,000 have been deported from New York alone. The FBI has set up a special task force all over the country, who in tandem with the local police, keep a close watch on the activities of the Pakistani community. I’m sure that other western & Pacific countries have also drastically cut back on visa issuance to Pakistanis. UK has had a flawed system, whereby bogus universities were able to enroll foreign students & many Pakistanis have taken advantage of that system but you can be rest assured, that will also stop in the future.

I’m not saying that all who were deported were involved in terror related activities but it’s time for Pakistanis to do some self introspection, as to why is your reputation around the world, sullied to such an extent. I’m sure, a vast majority who have been deported or who don’t get visas, have nothing to do with terrorism but those poor people have to pay the price for the wrong-doings of their countrymen. It’s time for you Pakistanis to think about your reputation, as a nation.

FYI, the 10 Pakistani students haven’t been released free. They are currently in detention & are awaiting deportation.

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By: rajeev http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/04/28/from-unemployed-teachers-to-ghost-schools-in-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-17223 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:34:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2531#comment-17223 Umair:
We are back talking about the history. I asked you once the following question and your answer was something like let us forget history.

I repeat again: Who was responsible for 1965, 1971, Kargil wars?

This is an answer that is very clear and your countrymen accept that Pakistan was the reason for Indo-Pak wars.

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By: rajeev http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/04/28/from-unemployed-teachers-to-ghost-schools-in-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-17222 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:20:02 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2531#comment-17222 @I would still say much of the expensive arms race was saprked between India and Pakistan by India. Had Pakistan not felt threatened there was no need to eat ‘grass’ to build the bomb, the region would have been diverting its resources on social sector rather than defense.
– Posted by Umair

Umair:
Say thanks to China, not India.
If you do not think that you know better than Pakistan ex-Air Marshal Asghar Khan, enlighten your self with his wise words.

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn -content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/colu mnists/16-ardeshir-cowasjee-wise-words-f rom-an-old-warrior-hs-04

“””””Until recently when the so-called Taliban became a problem, our defence expenditure was meant only to meet a threat from India. THE FACT IS THAT IN THE LAST 60 YEARS OF OUR EXISTENCE, INDIA HAS NOT STARTED HOSTILITIES AGAINST PAKISTAN UNLESS PROVOKED TO DO SO, OR UNTIL WE CREATED CONDITIONS, AS WE DID IN 1971 IN EAST PAKISTAN, FOR INDIA TO INTERFERE MILITARILY….

‘PAKISTAN’S NUCLEAR CAPABILITY, BY OUR OWN ADMISSION, IS ‘INDIA-SPECIFIC’. INDIA CAN JUSTIFY ITS NUCLEAR CAPABILITY FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. IT HAS EXPERIENCED HOSTILITIES WITH CHINA, and is aspiring to be one of the permanent members of the Security Council, for which it feels that being a nuclear power would be a qualification. Its size, population, location and resources should, it could argue, entitle it to be a permanent member of the Security Council. Moreover, its relations with the United States and the latter’s desire to balance China’s influence and power in Asia is likely to assure for it the support of the United States and the western world….

‘IF WE DID NOT HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS, DECLARED OURSELVES TO BE A NON-NUCLEAR STATE, AND OPENED OURSELVES TO INTERNATIONAL INSPECTION, THERE WOULD BE NO POSSIBILITY OF INDIA OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY USING NUCLEAR WEAPONS AGAINST US…. [W]e should therefore prepare only for a conventional war. WISDOM DEMANDS THAT WE STOP PLANNING FOR A NUCLEAR WAR WHICH, UNLESS WE START ONE, WE WILL NOT HAVE TO FIGHT. IT IS BOTH UNWISE AND UNNECESSARY TO PREPARE FOR THE ‘WRONG WAR’ WHICH COULD DESTROY US EVEN WITHOUT FIGHTING ONE.””””””

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