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	<title>Comments on: Pakistan&#8217;s farmland sales: a fatal folly?</title>
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		<title>By: pakistani 2020</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/05/06/pakistans-farmland-sales-a-fatal-folly/comment-page-1/#comment-21712</link>
		<dc:creator>pakistani 2020</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 06:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pakistan should never sell or lease agricultural land to Saudis or any other foreign governments or corporations or individuals as it will be very detrimental for our own future needs of food as our population is growing at such a fast pace. 

Food will be a more precious commodity than petrol &amp; energy in future. So, we shall be able to export food to countries like Saudi Arab at higher prices in future. Let these Saudis &amp; other countries pay more petro dollars to us through buying food from us, instead of giving them opportunity to grow their own food on our land. They have been squeezing quite a lot from us while selling petroleum to us at quite exorbitant rates, &amp; making our labor work up there at such miserably low salaries. It will be their pay back time in future. So the government should not dare sell or lease such a precious land to anybody.

Only idiots won&#039;t understand the real worth of farmland which it will hold in future &amp; might like to sell by taking a few billion dollars. Even if they do sell there will be a time in future when we&#039;ll grab it back from them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pakistan should never sell or lease agricultural land to Saudis or any other foreign governments or corporations or individuals as it will be very detrimental for our own future needs of food as our population is growing at such a fast pace. </p>
<p>Food will be a more precious commodity than petrol &amp; energy in future. So, we shall be able to export food to countries like Saudi Arab at higher prices in future. Let these Saudis &amp; other countries pay more petro dollars to us through buying food from us, instead of giving them opportunity to grow their own food on our land. They have been squeezing quite a lot from us while selling petroleum to us at quite exorbitant rates, &amp; making our labor work up there at such miserably low salaries. It will be their pay back time in future. So the government should not dare sell or lease such a precious land to anybody.</p>
<p>Only idiots won&#8217;t understand the real worth of farmland which it will hold in future &amp; might like to sell by taking a few billion dollars. Even if they do sell there will be a time in future when we&#8217;ll grab it back from them.</p>
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		<title>By: rajeev</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/05/06/pakistans-farmland-sales-a-fatal-folly/comment-page-1/#comment-17775</link>
		<dc:creator>rajeev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 20:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bulletfish

Rony is a UFO which deserves to be ignored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bulletfish</p>
<p>Rony is a UFO which deserves to be ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: rajeev</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/05/06/pakistans-farmland-sales-a-fatal-folly/comment-page-1/#comment-17769</link>
		<dc:creator>rajeev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 17:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need to further engage with Pakistani leadership and strengthen them. Pakistan is a key ally in the region and losing Pakistan will automatically mean losing Afghanistan. Obama administration needs to increase troop levels in Afghanistan, control the Afghani-Pakistani border (southern) more and make sure that Pakistani nukes will not win up in the hands of extremist, something that can endanger whole world order, not just a security in the region.
- Posted by David Dzidzikashvili 

David: This seems like a page out of the tarnscript of US president Speech.

Hilarious to read this: &quot;endanger whole world order&quot;.
It is not the terrorists thus far that has so much disturbed the world order, so far it is the US. Nukes have so far been used only once--Japan by US. How many civilians have been killed by the terrorists and how many by US? I have no count--my guess says US is the winner here.
I know my fellow Indian bloggers will start to feel uncomfortable. US citizens like you, far away from te reality, giving presidential speech on the blogs are doing no one any good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to further engage with Pakistani leadership and strengthen them. Pakistan is a key ally in the region and losing Pakistan will automatically mean losing Afghanistan. Obama administration needs to increase troop levels in Afghanistan, control the Afghani-Pakistani border (southern) more and make sure that Pakistani nukes will not win up in the hands of extremist, something that can endanger whole world order, not just a security in the region.<br />
- Posted by David Dzidzikashvili </p>
<p>David: This seems like a page out of the tarnscript of US president Speech.</p>
<p>Hilarious to read this: &#8220;endanger whole world order&#8221;.<br />
It is not the terrorists thus far that has so much disturbed the world order, so far it is the US. Nukes have so far been used only once&#8211;Japan by US. How many civilians have been killed by the terrorists and how many by US? I have no count&#8211;my guess says US is the winner here.<br />
I know my fellow Indian bloggers will start to feel uncomfortable. US citizens like you, far away from te reality, giving presidential speech on the blogs are doing no one any good.</p>
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		<title>By: anup</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/05/06/pakistans-farmland-sales-a-fatal-folly/comment-page-1/#comment-17683</link>
		<dc:creator>anup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 18:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Myra

---U.S.Federal Research Division of the Library of Congress</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Myra</p>
<p>&#8212;U.S.Federal Research Division of the Library of Congress</p>
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		<title>By: bulletfish</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/05/06/pakistans-farmland-sales-a-fatal-folly/comment-page-1/#comment-17680</link>
		<dc:creator>bulletfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 15:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there rony! I am back!

So Pakistan is selling its land! So? What else is new? They already gave away a part of Kashmir to the Chinese. Are the Pakistani elite hoping that by selling large acres of land to the Arab countries that Uncle Sheikh Ali Baba Oil Money Bags will use the land to culivate crops to feed the displaced from the fighting in Swat and Bunar. This a joke!

-Pakistan has got Mr. 10 % as President with a begging bowl.
-Pakistan has lost 10% of its area to Taliban control.
-Pakistan has lost cricket as hosts.

What more do they want to lose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there rony! I am back!</p>
<p>So Pakistan is selling its land! So? What else is new? They already gave away a part of Kashmir to the Chinese. Are the Pakistani elite hoping that by selling large acres of land to the Arab countries that Uncle Sheikh Ali Baba Oil Money Bags will use the land to culivate crops to feed the displaced from the fighting in Swat and Bunar. This a joke!</p>
<p>-Pakistan has got Mr. 10 % as President with a begging bowl.<br />
-Pakistan has lost 10% of its area to Taliban control.<br />
-Pakistan has lost cricket as hosts.</p>
<p>What more do they want to lose?</p>
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		<title>By: Myra MacDonald</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/05/06/pakistans-farmland-sales-a-fatal-folly/comment-page-1/#comment-17674</link>
		<dc:creator>Myra MacDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 10:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick,

This Reuters story has an overview of land sales globally, based on a report by the International Food Policy Research Institute. The story also includes a link to the original IFPRI report.

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE53S97N20090430

This article seems to have a lot of useful links to assessments on the value of land sales:

http://www.stwr.org/food-security-agriculture/land-grabbing-the-end-of-sustainable-agriculture.html


As far as I can see, the argument in favour is that it brings in much needed investment and technology; the argument against is that it primarily benefits those who own or lease the land rather than local people; and if it damages the surrounding environment, they will be even worse off.

Anup, thanks for your figures. Where did they come from?

Myra</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,</p>
<p>This Reuters story has an overview of land sales globally, based on a report by the International Food Policy Research Institute. The story also includes a link to the original IFPRI report.</p>
<p><a href='http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE53S97N20090430'>http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews &nbsp;/idUSTRE53S97N20090430</a></p>
<p>This article seems to have a lot of useful links to assessments on the value of land sales:</p>
<p><a href='http://www.stwr.org/food-security-agriculture/land-grabbing-the-end-of-sustainable-agriculture.html'>http://www.stwr.org/food-security-agricu lture/land-grabbing-the-end-of-sustainab le-agriculture.html</a></p>
<p>As far as I can see, the argument in favour is that it brings in much needed investment and technology; the argument against is that it primarily benefits those who own or lease the land rather than local people; and if it damages the surrounding environment, they will be even worse off.</p>
<p>Anup, thanks for your figures. Where did they come from?</p>
<p>Myra</p>
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		<title>By: anup</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/05/06/pakistans-farmland-sales-a-fatal-folly/comment-page-1/#comment-17673</link>
		<dc:creator>anup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 09:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Virendra
&quot;What is compelling Pakistan...&quot;

---Almost all Pakistani elite in the army &amp; the political arena hold dual citizenship with large chunk of money &amp; huge properties in the west, obviously they are also well aware of the high uncertainty &amp; temporary nature of the powers they wield presently, so they simply gonna sell Pakistan piecemeal &amp; take a flight when it&#039;s over for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Virendra<br />
&#8220;What is compelling Pakistan&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;Almost all Pakistani elite in the army &amp; the political arena hold dual citizenship with large chunk of money &amp; huge properties in the west, obviously they are also well aware of the high uncertainty &amp; temporary nature of the powers they wield presently, so they simply gonna sell Pakistan piecemeal &amp; take a flight when it&#8217;s over for them.</p>
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		<title>By: anup</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/05/06/pakistans-farmland-sales-a-fatal-folly/comment-page-1/#comment-17672</link>
		<dc:creator>anup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 09:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Zeedzeecashwilly

--- RIP! The terrorists can lay their hands on the nuke only on instructions from white hall to hand em over to them &amp; nuke you on the sole command of Uncle Sam...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Zeedzeecashwilly</p>
<p>&#8212; RIP! The terrorists can lay their hands on the nuke only on instructions from white hall to hand em over to them &amp; nuke you on the sole command of Uncle Sam&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Virendra</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/05/06/pakistans-farmland-sales-a-fatal-folly/comment-page-1/#comment-17668</link>
		<dc:creator>Virendra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 05:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is compelling Pakistan to lease its land to Arab countries? I have read reports of some African countries do so. But they are short in man-power and technology. Pakistan is decent in both of them. Perhaps it lacks capital to invest but that is not compulsion enough to selling such vast tract. Is Taliban pushing them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is compelling Pakistan to lease its land to Arab countries? I have read reports of some African countries do so. But they are short in man-power and technology. Pakistan is decent in both of them. Perhaps it lacks capital to invest but that is not compulsion enough to selling such vast tract. Is Taliban pushing them?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/05/06/pakistans-farmland-sales-a-fatal-folly/comment-page-1/#comment-17667</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 04:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys,

On one hand Pakistan is spending so much militarily for &quot;land of kashmir&quot; , on the other it is willing to sell land to Gulf countries! I wonder a day will come when Pak may offer POK for sale..May be to India..hmmmm.. not sure.. May be to China.

 So point is, would Pak remain a sovereign country if it sells part of land here and there in Pak to other countries.. Has something like this ever happened anywhere in the world? Can somebody point to it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys,</p>
<p>On one hand Pakistan is spending so much militarily for &#8220;land of kashmir&#8221; , on the other it is willing to sell land to Gulf countries! I wonder a day will come when Pak may offer POK for sale..May be to India..hmmmm.. not sure.. May be to China.</p>
<p> So point is, would Pak remain a sovereign country if it sells part of land here and there in Pak to other countries.. Has something like this ever happened anywhere in the world? Can somebody point to it?</p>
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