Comments on: More churning in South Asia : India bolsters defences on China border http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/06/12/more-churning-in-south-asia-india-bolsters-defences-on-china-border/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Aamir Ali http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/06/12/more-churning-in-south-asia-india-bolsters-defences-on-china-border/comment-page-2/#comment-20756 Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:36:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2921#comment-20756 Indians are too obsessed with Pakistan to worry about China, that is why the bulk of the Indian military is deployed against Pakistan.

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By: Reminding M.J http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/06/12/more-churning-in-south-asia-india-bolsters-defences-on-china-border/comment-page-2/#comment-19399 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:25:46 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2921#comment-19399 In fact,in the Chinese eyes,Pakistan is the brother contry because of the help from them in the Great Earthquake.

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By: tony http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/06/12/more-churning-in-south-asia-india-bolsters-defences-on-china-border/comment-page-2/#comment-19320 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:01:01 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2921#comment-19320 Failed State Index Rankings:1. SOMALIA2. ZIMBABWE3. SUDAN4. CHAD5. CONGO6. IRAQ7. AFGHANISTAN10. PAKISTAN13. BURMA17. N KOREA19. BANGLADESH22. SRI LANKA25. NEPAL57. CHINA87. INDIAAll friends of China are topping the list. Aspiring failed state can use this as a reference. Copy this link quickly before china blocks this blog or links!http://www.foreignpolicy.com/artic les/2009/06/22/the_2009_failed_states_in dex

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By: peace http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/06/12/more-churning-in-south-asia-india-bolsters-defences-on-china-border/comment-page-2/#comment-19312 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:06:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2921#comment-19312 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WMp-tprW yE&feature=related

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By: Rohit http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/06/12/more-churning-in-south-asia-india-bolsters-defences-on-china-border/comment-page-2/#comment-19299 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:06:03 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2921#comment-19299 Saurav Mohanty,China may be moving for global supremacy and given the fact that US is on decline, China has brilliant chance of becoming a superpower.But what makes you believe that India is becoming or on way to become superpower? India has a growing population which cannot be contained and therefore, poverty, corruption, ineffective judiciary etc cannot be removed. This population is not in a state to face even one season of calamity. The natural resources of India are not enough to sustain 1 billion people.

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By: Saurav Mohanty http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/06/12/more-churning-in-south-asia-india-bolsters-defences-on-china-border/comment-page-2/#comment-19256 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:34:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2921#comment-19256 China acts like a cat, “while drinking milk, Cat thinks that nobody could see the cat since the cat is deep down into the container. China tried to isolate India from every angle. They have no interest in Pakistan other than to keep India on the bay using Pakistan’s soil, resources. Similarly they have tried to do the same using Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bangladesh and Myanmar. The total GDP, purchasing power and per capita income of Pakistan is so low that in never came to the radar of the investors to invest in that country. The FDI (Foreign Direct Investment) in Pakistan is negligible in compare to India and China. Still China pours billions in to Pakistan. The competition for future super power is getting fierce between china and India. A war between China and India will be a lose lose situation for both India and China. As India cannot afford to have a war with Pakistan due to Nuclear, so does China. India can also wipe Sanghai and Beging from the map. Historically Communist talks tough. Though India needs to look at its approach to deal with her neighbor, it’s time for Pakistan to wake up to the ground reality.

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By: rajeev http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/06/12/more-churning-in-south-asia-india-bolsters-defences-on-china-border/comment-page-2/#comment-19221 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:24:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2921#comment-19221 Rohit:Thanks for the links. Nothing much to comment on the rest.Umair:@Both 1965 and 71 wars cannot be termed as defensive on part of India. In both wars India tried to inflict maximum blow to Pakistan and vice versa.—Elaborate on why not? Your own country’s ex Air Marshal Asghar Khan says that Pakistan initiated hostilities against India each time.http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect  /dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspape r/columnists/16-ardeshir-cowasjee-wise-w ords-from-an-old-warrior-hs-04He says “Until recently when the so-called Taliban became a problem, our defence expenditure was meant only to meet a threat from India. The fact is that in the last 60 years of our existence, India has not started hostilities against Pakistan unless provoked to do so, or until we created conditions, as we did in 1971 in East Pakistan, for India to interfere militarily….”@Regarding the question if India will loose a war with Pakistan at this stage? well, in my opinion its not a question of India loosing the war, its that India will not be able to win the war. if the opposite word for victory in english is defeat than so be it. India will be defeated, to rephrase it.-Umair, you can play with the words and become a victor on the net.@The Kashmir insurgency is just yesterday’s event. What about the Mukti Bahni insurgents entered in East Pakistan?-What about the raiders of 1948 to occupy Kashmir. It started from there in reality. Screwed the whole thing.

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By: rohit http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/06/12/more-churning-in-south-asia-india-bolsters-defences-on-china-border/comment-page-1/#comment-19182 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:48:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2921#comment-19182 Rajeev,One more referencehttp://indiabudget.nic.in/es200 6-07/chapt2007/chap25.pdfPage number 34 TABLE 2.6Amount due from Pakistan on account of share of pre-partition debt Rs 300 Crore.

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By: Rohit http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/06/12/more-churning-in-south-asia-india-bolsters-defences-on-china-border/comment-page-1/#comment-19180 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:30:37 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2921#comment-19180 Rajeev,1) Assuming that, do you mean India will lose the war against Pakistan, at this moment?No one can predict future. People look forward with optimism.2) Even solid Chinese win could not solve the border dispute–Tawang-Arunachal Pardesh. Yes they have Indian territory but could they claim all they wanted.That’s skipping the answer. The right answer is NO.3) “wars were defensive in nature not offensive”Correct answer should be a thorough analysis is needed to be done as to why war victories were fruitless and not oriented towards solving problems. My answer is solution could have not been forced till US + Russia would have put it’s weight behind India. This may also solve dilemma why China pulled back.4) Wars will worsen the cause and solve. In reality, India asking for kashmir in Pak and Pak looking for a piece of it in India is impractical. Well, some politicians in the world (US and UK; and of course Pak) thought Sikhs need independence and allowed the pro-Khalistan activities. Does India have to please them to prove her right? To hell with them(at that time). But yes K-issue needs solution.K Issue cannot be solved by any means other than war till current position of India and Pakistan are not diluted.5) Enlighten me since I do not know.Please go through parliamentary papers http://parliamentofindia.nic.in/lsdeb/ls 10/ses3/1809039203.htm”When India and Pakistan had because two independent nations India had given about Rs. 300 crores to Pakistan, But India has so far, taken no measures to recover that money from Pakistan.”6) Wars will worsen the cause, not solve the problems. Also, what do you think will happen 5-100 yrs down the line? In addition to any pessimism…Future, I told you, can’t be predicted… But it can be inferred from events in past. Terrorism will continue. The unabated rise of terrorism may force world to think for radical solutions.

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By: Umair http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/06/12/more-churning-in-south-asia-india-bolsters-defences-on-china-border/comment-page-1/#comment-19179 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:25:42 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=2921#comment-19179 Rohit and RajeevGuys nice discussion, sorry to jump in. Few points here:Both 1965 and 71 wars cannot be termed as defensive on part of India. In both wars India tried to inflict maximum blow to Pakistan and vice versa.Regarding the question if India will loose a war with Pakistan at this stage? well, in my opinion its not a question of India loosing the war, its that India will not be able to win the war. if the opposite word for victory in english is defeat than so be it. India will be defeated, to rephrase it.For decades after Pakistan’s creation Indian leaders, the likes of Nehru’s who suffered heart attacks due to loosing wars to China, those very Indian netas never accepted Pakistan even reluctantly. That has been the root cause of the problem. The Kashmir insurgency is just yesterday’s event. What about the Mukti Bahni insurgents entered in East Pakistan?Rohit has a valid point, Indian system is flawed and lacks transparency. But atleast there is a permanent emocratic system, if not perfect. It is something Pakistan can learn from.

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