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15:50 July 23rd, 2009

Pakistan’s nuclear weapons and the doomsday scenario

Posted by: Myra MacDonald
Tags: Pakistan: Now or Never, , , , , , ,

When Secretary of State Hillary Clinton raised the possibility in April of Islamist militants taking over Pakistan and its nuclear weapons, her words were dismissed as alarmist - and perhaps deliberately so as a way of putting pressure on Islamabad to act.

The problem with Pakistan is that it is almost impossible to come up with a view that is not either alarmist or complacent. It is such a complex country that nobody can agree a frame of reference for assessing the risk. It is the base for a bewildering array of militants including Afghan and Pakistani Taliban, al Qaeda and anti-India groups, yet also has a powerful and professional army which would be expected to defend to the last its Punjab heartland and nuclear weapons against a jihadi takeover.  Its potent mix of poverty and Islamist sympathies among a significant section of the population make it ripe for revolution, yet it also has a strong and secular-minded civil society which was willing to go out into the streets earlier this year to demand an independent judiciary.

You can assess the risk in Pakistan by looking at the rate of decline in stability there, and that was faster than anyone expected over the past year or so until a military offensive against the Taliban in Swat  which began in April halted the slide.

Or you can look at the worst case scenario, of Islamist militants taking over a nuclear-armed Pakistan, and decide that even if that outcome is unlikely, the potential dangers arising from it are so great as to put Pakistani stability at the top of global risks.

In an essay in the National Interest, Bruce Riedel, the former CIA officer who led a review of strategy in Afghanistan and Pakistan for President Barack Obama, lays out the implications of that worst case scenario.

“A jihadist Pakistan would be the most serious threat to the United States since the end of the Cold War.  Aligned with al-Qaeda and armed with nuclear weapons, the Islamic Emirate of Pakistan would be a nightmare. U.S. options for dealing with it would all be bad,” he writes.

And if the United States were to try to invade “the Pakistanis would, of course, use their nuclear weapons to defend themselves. While they do not have delivery systems capable of reaching America, they could certainly destroy cities and bases in Afghanistan, India, the Gulf states and, if smuggled out ahead of time by terrorists, perhaps the United States. A victory in such a conflict would be Pyrrhic indeed.

“Of course, the hardest problem would be the day after. What would we do with a country twice the size of California with enormous poverty, almost 50 percent illiteracy and intense popular hatred for all that we stand for after we have fought a nuclear war to occupy it?”

Riedel’s essay, titled “Armageddon in Islamabad” goes some way to answering the oft-asked question of why western troops are fighting in Afghanistan when al Qaeda and its allies are believed to be based in Pakistan. It also helps explain why the United States is so keen to see a peace deal with India that might help stabilise the country.

“A jihadist, nuclear-armed Pakistan is a scenario we need to avoid at all costs,” he says. That means working with the Pakistan we have today to try to improve its spotty record on terrorism and proliferation. There is good reason for pessimism. Working with the existing order in Pakistan may not succeed. But there is every reason to try, given the horrors of the alternative.”

Do read it in conjunction with this article in the CTC Sentinel (pdf), in which Shaun Gregory, a professor at Britain’s Bradford University, assesses the risk of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons falling into the hands of Islamist militants. The nuclear weapons, he argues, are well guarded by the Pakistan Army against the internal threat of a seizure by Islamist militants. But this also means that they could not be spirited out of the country by a third party, or destroyed, in the event of a state collapse.

67 comments so far

This is a mind opening post. De-nuclearisation of both India and Pakistan is a must. If Islamist are a problem in Pakistan. The Bajrang Dal(RSS, Shivsena and other extreme right wing Hindu groups) are a serious threat to the stability of the world. These groups possess the same evil Al-Qaeda has. They are evil to the core of their beliefs, religion and principles. These are the guys who killed Gandhi. See if they are not going to leave Gandhi do you think they will let the world pass. Another time the BJP led right wing groups comes to power in India the Indian economy will be in a downturn and a destabilization of the world is the only way Indian economy can be brought up. It is simple to understand… blow up a small nuke in New York, business move to Mumbai and Bangalore. Think hard to understand the evil we are appeasing in India.

- Posted by Looter

China arming terrorists now!
http://www.forbes.com/2009/08/13/india-c hina-relations-population-opinions-colum nists-gordon-chang.html

And saves terrorists at UN too!
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/ india/China-refuses-Indias-request-to-de clare-Masood-Azhar-a-terrorist/articlesh ow/4894763.cms

- Posted by Jacob

PM Gilani calls for urgent US aid for IDPs without strings
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn -content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/09-g ilani-calls-for-aid-without-strings–szh- 09
PM Gilani urges U.S. to write-off debt
http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-Afgha nistan-Pakistan/idUSTRE5543JX20090605

Pakistan Air Force will induct four Chinese midair refuellers, four Chinese AWACS, 250 Chinerse JF-17 Thunder fighter aircraft soon
http://www.sindhtoday.net/news/1/40182.h tm

New Pakistani Govt Motto: “US feeds us proudly, We feed Chinese Proudly”

- Posted by andy

@Getting back to topic, this doomsday scenario makes for entertaining reading and even a good Bollywood film, but is very unrealistic. Nukes are not grenades to be stolen in some raid and then used the next day.
- Posted by Aamir Ali

Dear Aamir Ali: I agree it is etertaining but only until one does get vaporized by the heat of the nuclear bomb. Actually nukes can be used vey much like grenades, if you ever heard about the dirty bomb—No nuclear warhead, no missile, no sophisticated technology needed. Suicide bombers will kill each other for the honor of using Dirtybomb instead of regular bomb. Now all that is needed is committed terrorists, terrorist sympathizers in the Nuclear facilities and the right (wrong) kind of political atmosphere for them to collaborate. Not a fictional stuff; more probable than knocking down WTC–who thought about that.

@US aid is voluntary and IMF loans are small. Pakistan can survive without both but if folks are willing to help then why not ?
—say thanks for the aid atleast. you will collapse without aid. Foreign aid, like a drug, dictates your survival and the bad news is you are addicted to it and take it for granted and feel no shame in asking. you guys call USA imperialist but the way you ask money, you yourself act like another state of USA. Once the aid is completely stopped, Pakistan will become a jungle and you guys will kill each other for self survival. China gives money where money grows, not where it goes in black hole–so do not count on them. Alternative is not so easy for you which is to grow up and be self reliant. My wish on Pakistan’s independence day is stable Pakistan, but only if that does not hurt India. Feels bad to say that since India is 1 day younger than Pakistan.

- Posted by rajeev

@Bulletfish

US aid is voluntary and IMF loans are small. Pakistan can survive without both but if folks are willing to help then why not ? Pakistan certainly deserves a few dollars as opposed to bailouts in the hundreds of billions for insurance companies and banks.

Getting back to topic, this doomsday scenario makes for entertaining reading and even a good Bollywood film, but is very unrealistic. Nukes are not grenades to be stolen in some raid and then used the next day.

- Posted by Aamir Ali

Myra,

Any future financial aid should be tied to transparent and open denuclearization and demilitarization from Pakistan, under the IAEA and international monitors.

In return, India should give security guarantees, that it will not attack Pakistan unprovoked, except in retaliatory fashion only.

This will keep Pakistan honest and allow it to focus its energies on productive, non-military and non-jihadi endeavors.

- Posted by Global Watcher

Aamir Ali,

The rest of the world will keep in turning and Pakistan will keep on begging. Your country is is being held back from the brink of bankruptcy by US aid, IMF loans and Saudi oil payment defferments. It is the US and the IMF that decides how your country’s economy is run. Keep begging for relief from the terrorism YOU created that is eating you up.

- Posted by bulletfish

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