Comments on: Targeted killings inside Pakistan — are they working? http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/08/12/targeted-killings-inside-pakistanare-they-working/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: SamuelReich http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/08/12/targeted-killings-inside-pakistanare-they-working/comment-page-1/#comment-53970 Wed, 08 Oct 2014 08:09:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=3388#comment-53970 It depends on what you call leaders. The long term movers to radical Islam are money bags and clergy. Kill the radical clergy and financiers the movement lacks recruits and tools. But besides rich religious people providing the money, there are classes of people that will benefit from radical Islamic state such as those making Islamic fashions (loss of competition from Western firms), people with degrees in Islamic law (they can get clients that need them), Islamic banks (loss of competition from Western style banking), all organizations that will benefit from enforcement of titing incomes. So there are lots of people who should support Islamic militants for self interest if the destruction of war stays low.

The cure for religious wars in Europe was most likely the destruction of such wars like the Thirty years War and need of the protestants to make alliances among themselves. Which makes equalizing the military strength of warring militants and killing off their Clergy, teachers and Money Bags the best tactic against them.

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By: Redonka http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/08/12/targeted-killings-inside-pakistanare-they-working/comment-page-1/#comment-21173 Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:27:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=3388#comment-21173 there is more to pakistan then this violence and extremism

http://pal-cinternblog.blogspot.com/

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By: Andy http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/08/12/targeted-killings-inside-pakistanare-they-working/comment-page-1/#comment-21055 Fri, 14 Aug 2009 05:15:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=3388#comment-21055 PM Gilani calls for urgent US aid for IDPs without strings
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn -content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/09-g ilani-calls-for-aid-without-strings–szh- 09
PM Gilani urges U.S. to write-off debt
http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-Afgha nistan-Pakistan/idUSTRE5543JX20090605

Pakistan Air Force will induct four Chinese midair refuellers, four Chinese AWACS, 250 Chinerse JF-17 Thunder fighter aircraft soon
http://www.sindhtoday.net/news/1/40182.h tm

New Pakistani Govt Motto: “US feeds us proudly, We feed Chinese Proudly”

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By: Nick http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/08/12/targeted-killings-inside-pakistanare-they-working/comment-page-1/#comment-21043 Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:56:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=3388#comment-21043 Can anyone please tell me where does the taliban get weapons (including RPGs, anti aircraft etc.)from?

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By: rajeev http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/08/12/targeted-killings-inside-pakistanare-they-working/comment-page-1/#comment-21016 Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:53:46 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=3388#comment-21016 One name that always comes to mind especially during independence day celebrations of India/Pakistan is Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan, also know as Frontier Gandhi for his embracing the non-violent ways for indpendence of India.

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/SRR/Volume 11/gayatri.html

Excerpt from the link:

Long after partition, in a public speech Gaffar Khan said:

“Where is the democracy that British gave us? Ayub Khan robbed us of it. And what did he give us in return ? He gave us his own version of democracy which does not even deserve the name of democracy.

Look at our financial position, look at our language, culture, society. He has taken it all. Look at our schools, our colleges, the education and instruction of our children. And look at his manners. I am always surprised at these people who keep telling us:”We are making such progress. Pakistan has a target and we are fast approaching it.” Actually there are several jokes in circulation about that. I will tell you one. It goes like this:

A woman said to her husband, warmly embracing him: “Darling, I want a diamond nose-ornament!” The husband replied: “Actually I was considering how I could cut off your nose altogether.”

All we are asking is for a nose ornament, it does not even have to be diamond. But Pakistan is thinking how they can cut off our nose altogether.”

Jokes aside, he was very frank and candid about the seriousness of the dangers facing Pathans. Continuing the speech he said: “I want you and the Pakistani leaders to take a look at the misery which our Balochi brothers are living in. They have been asking and crying and shouting for their rights for the last twenty years. When nobody listened to them they had no choice but to take up arms. You all know what happened to them, the tyranny they had to suffer, the cruelties that were committed. Now Pakistan has found that the question cannot be solved by cruelty and oppression, and these poor people are told; Come on, let us sit down together and settle our dispute. It did not take me long to find out that in the heart of Pakistan there is no room for any Baluchi or Sindhi or Bengali or Pakhtun. Therefore I want my Baluchi brothers to know that the Sindhis and the Pakhtuns are just as oppressed and that our aim and objectives are the same. Pakistan’s real design will be clear if you look at Punjab. The Punjab leaders met and had discussions and consultations with their Jirga. They said “look at the Pakhtuns, they are all very rich. They have electricity you know. Then they said; look at the Sindhis, they have so much land. About the Baluchis they said, they have in their country wealth of mineral resources and gas.”

“Brothers, all this is trickery and they are only saying all this because they want it for themselves: the electricity of Pathans, the land of Sindhis and the minerals of Baluchis. Then they have this idea of “one unit”. Work it out for yourselves, is this in harmony with Islamic belief? Does Islam tell you to rob one brother of electricity, another brother of his fertile land and take possessions of the mines and minerals of another?

And you, ignorant and misguided Pathans, you do not even stop to think whether this is Islam or not, you just swallow anything you are told.”

“On August 11 1947, the British protectorate of Baluchistan declared its independence. Three days later, Pakistan also became an independent nation. But the two states coexisted for less than a year.”

“In March 1948, Pakistan invaded and seized Baluchistan. Under threat of imprisonment, the traditional Baluch leader, the Khan of Kalat, Mir Ahmed Yar Khan, was pressured to sign a treaty of integration. This treaty was, however, never agreed by the Baluchistan parliament and never mandated by the Baluch people.”

“Ever since, for six decades, Baluchistan has been subjected to Pakistani military occupation, political domination, economic exploitation and cultural hegemony. Pakistan is an oppressed nation turned oppressor nation. It now adopts the imperialist tactics of its former colonial overlords to subjugate and exploit the Baluch.”

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By: Bangash http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/08/12/targeted-killings-inside-pakistanare-they-working/comment-page-1/#comment-21013 Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:28:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=3388#comment-21013 After 1.5 years of drone attacks and hundreds of civilians killed, finally the drones net a HVT. Its a pretty huge price to pay. Better methods need to be implemented.

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By: Farnaby http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/08/12/targeted-killings-inside-pakistanare-they-working/comment-page-1/#comment-21007 Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:54:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=3388#comment-21007 The Baluchistan dimension appears to be a part of the US strategy. The CIA’s aims in the region seem to be to create an independent Baluchistan to further destabilise and weaken Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran and increase US control of the region. I am worried that the Baluchi leaders, who the CIA are promoting to accomplish this, may be as reactionary as the heroin dealing warlords and the islamists who they promoted in Afghanistan, before the Soviet invasion in 1979, to destabilise the socialist government of Afghanistan, encourage the Soviet Union to invade, and give them “another Vietnam”. The US government also installed the islamist dictatorship of Zia-al-Haq in Pakistan. Those events were closely related to the origins of the Taliban. According to Craig Murray (ex UK ambassador to Uzbekistan) “three of the world’s five biggest heroin dealers are members of the Afghan government” (recorded at NO2ID hustings in the recent Norwich North by-election). So long as the US and UK governments are promoting the careers of these people and destabilising the region for control of the oil pipelines, and the for the profits of Halliburton, ‘decapitation’ of selected islamists will make little difference. But every expensive drone used to do it represents a bit more ‘economic growth’, ‘planned obsolescence’ and profit for the arms trade, while it further increases US public sector debt. I guess they’ll carry on doing it, anyway.

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By: Rohit http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/08/12/targeted-killings-inside-pakistanare-they-working/comment-page-1/#comment-20998 Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:08:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=3388#comment-20998 Irfan… your link did not work but sounded interesting. A free Baluchistan should definitely prevent attacks like the one in Zahedan. Anyways, an interesting article from Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/ 2007/aug/15/pakistancelebratesbaluchista

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By: Irfan - Iran http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/08/12/targeted-killings-inside-pakistanare-they-working/comment-page-1/#comment-20993 Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:31:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=3388#comment-20993 2nd Bangladesh in the making!

Balochistan declares independence and Council of Independent Balochistan announced
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-n ewspaper-daily-english-online/Politics/1 2-Aug-2009/Council-of-Independent-Baloch istan-announced

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