Graphic: Pakistani nuclear facilities

By Reuters Staff
August 13, 2009

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On the eve of Pakistan’s Independence day, the map of Pakistan’s nuclear sites is ready for public display.
This appears like a project assignment of coming up with the best ways to demolish valuable targets–the cost-free way to get feedback from anyone in the world!

Posted by rajeev | Report as abusive

Another idiot comenting on Pakistan, since you are sugesting this Rajeev do you have any sugestions to implement. I mean anyone can bark, but its action thats the most important thing. I dont see that from idiots, all of you idiots have nothing constructive to say like lets move forward, when we want to look forward the idiots wants to look back.

All I got to say to all pakistanis…..Congratulations!! May we work hard to make this country to where it belongs. Where all minorties are respected and as any pakistani would be ashamnbed at what happend recntly in Gojra. Th perpertrators should be brought to justice so it can be lesson for all the mad mullah to keep their nose out of creating tensions between communities.

By the way Rajeeve go on Dawn and see the pics of Kashmiris celebrating Pakistan Independence day! That should go soem way to cheer u up! Idiots…

Posted by Ali | Report as abusive

August 14, 1947 a sacred country appears on the map of the world. The ideology of this new born country is Islam. It is called as Fort of Islam. Yes, it is Pakistan. A great Country of a great Nation. Jashn-E-Azadi Mubarak (Happy Independence Day).

Posted by Umair | Report as abusive

Punjabi army carried out all nuclear tests (5 so far) in Balochistan without any concern for public safety .. thousands of locals are daed and suffering consequences if radiation .. all local mines and refineries are leased to China … 10000 Chinese are working in Balochistan .. China needs an oil pipeline and highway from Balochistan to Tibet .. When Baluch locals ask for a job, they get a bullet from Chinese made AK-47 ..

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/pakistans -nukes-haunt-world-dc-meeting-29th

Posted by Patrick | Report as abusive

Congratulation to everybody in pakistan. God bless Pakistan.
Let’s help china to accomplish it’s goal and help it to balkanise Pakistan’s enemy.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/ india/Break-India-says-China-think-tank/ articleshow/4883573.cms

Posted by babag | Report as abusive

Congratulations Ali: Pakistan Zinda Bhag!!! Enjoy till it lasts.

@On celebrations in Kashmir with Pakistan flag: Silent majority is watching this. Any way, I was wondering why the separatist stil lose elections with crazy margin…do not give me this election rigging sh#t, even the loser separatist did not blame that.

Moving on, around this time I always remember a Pakistani National who is respected by India, non-Punjabi Pakistanis and Afghans alike is Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan, also know as Frontier Gandhi. he was a true brave Muslim who faught and died for the freedom first for indpendence of India and then of Pakhtunistan. he embraced the non-violent ways for achieving his goals. India even when he was a Pakistani conferred on him the highest Civil Award of India–Bharat Rattan (Jewel of India)–for his contribution to Indian freedom struggle and Pakistan put him in prison for 15rs when he was an unfortunate citizen of Pakistan.

In a public speech Gaffar Khan said:

“Where is the democracy that British gave us? Ayub Khan robbed us of it. And what did he give us in return ? He gave us his own version of democracy which does not even deserve the name of democracy.

Look at our financial position, look at our language, culture, society. He has taken it all. Look at our schools, our colleges, the education and instruction of our children. And look at his manners. I am always surprised at these people who keep telling us:”We are making such progress. Pakistan has a target and we are fast approaching it.” Actually there are several jokes in circulation about that. I will tell you one. It goes like this:
A woman said to her husband, warmly embracing him: “Darling, I want a diamond nose-ornament!” The husband replied: “Actually I was considering how I could cut off your nose altogether.”

All we are asking is for a nose ornament, it does not even have to be diamond. But Pakistan is thinking how they can cut off our nose altogether.”

he said: “I want you and the Pakistani leaders to take a look at the misery which our Balochi brothers are living in. They have been asking and crying and shouting for their rights for the last twenty years. When nobody listened to them they had no choice but to take up arms. You all know what happened to them, the tyranny they had to suffer, the cruelties that were committed. Now Pakistan has found that the question cannot be solved by cruelty and oppression, and these poor people are told; Come on, let us sit down together and settle our dispute. It did not take me long to find out that in the heart of Pakistan there is no room for any Baluchi or Sindhi or Bengali or Pakhtun. Therefore I want my Baluchi brothers to know that the Sindhis and the Pakhtuns are just as oppressed and that our aim and objectives are the same. Pakistan’s real design will be clear if you look at Punjab. The Punjab leaders met and had discussions and consultations with their Jirga. They said “look at the Pakhtuns, they are all very rich. They have electricity you know. Then they said; look at the Sindhis, they have so much land. About the Baluchis they said, they have in their country wealth of mineral resources and gas.”

“Brothers, all this is trickery and they are only saying all this because they want it for themselves: the electricity of Pathans, the land of Sindhis and the minerals of Baluchis. Then they have this idea of “one unit”. Work it out for yourselves, is this in harmony with Islamic belief? Does Islam tell you to rob one brother of electricity, another brother of his fertile land and take possessions of the mines and minerals of another?

And you, ignorant and misguided Pathans, you do not even stop to think whether this is Islam or not, you just swallow anything you are told.”

“On August 11 1947, the British protectorate of Baluchistan declared its independence. Three days later, Pakistan also became an independent nation. But the two states coexisted for less than a year.”

“In March 1948, Pakistan invaded and seized Baluchistan. Under threat of imprisonment, the traditional Baluch leader, the Khan of Kalat, Mir Ahmed Yar Khan, was pressured to sign a treaty of integration. This treaty was, however, never agreed by the Baluchistan parliament and never mandated by the Baluch people.”

“Ever since, for six decades, Baluchistan has been subjected to Pakistani military occupation, political domination, economic exploitation and cultural hegemony. Pakistan is an oppressed nation turned oppressor nation. It now adopts the imperialist tactics of its former colonial overlords to subjugate and exploit the Baluch.”

Posted by rajeev | Report as abusive

By the way Rajeeve go on Dawn and see the pics of Kashmiris celebrating Pakistan Independence day! That should go soem way to cheer u up! Idiots…
- Posted by Ali

Dear Ali,
India is a free country. People can celebrate anything and believe in anything. India is not China, where we bomb own people with Tanks or Pakistan where we bomb own people from rented planes.

This freedom sticks India together. I won’t comment about Balochistan independence!

Posted by ANdy | Report as abusive

Happy Independence Day to all Pakistanis.
Hope you will realize Zinnah’s vision soon!

Posted by Andy | Report as abusive

Happy Independence Day Pakistanis!

Posted by Andy | Report as abusive

Pakistan’s ‘independence’ is a farce. The reality is that Pakistan is not independent by any sense of the term. To a great extent, it is dependent on external forces; economically, politically as well as militarily. There’s a great deal of angst & agitation in 3 of it’s 4 provinces (out of which 2 are very strong & very real). It’s time for the world to gain control of the nukes of this failed & very much ‘dependent’ nation.

Posted by Mortal | Report as abusive

Happy Independence Day to Baluchistan – August 11, 2009

Posted by brewer | Report as abusive

Umair Wrote:

“August 14, 1947 a sacred country appears on the map of the world. The ideology of this new born country is Islam. It is called as Fort of Islam. Yes, it is Pakistan. A great Country of a great Nation. Jashn-E-Azadi Mubarak (Happy Independence Day).”

This is very strange to see that Pakistan celebrate “Independence day” on 14-Aug, when “sacred” *cough cough* country appears on the map of the world on 14th Aug. From whom did they get their Independence ?

They should celebrate their birthday instead on 14-Aug.

Is it because Pakistan tries to copy everything what India does, including Naming their “National Holidays” on the tunes of India ?

Posted by singh | Report as abusive

The roadmap to denuclearization and demilitarization of Pakistan starts with this map.

The U.S. already has a long term plan for the region, that plan likely includes a very Balkanized area, what is now known as Pakistan. Only complete removal of terrorism will save Pakistan as a state, albeit a dysfunctional and extremely mismanaged one by the Punjabi Mafia Junta in Uniforms.

The world looks to the day, when Balochistan, Sindustan, Wariristan and others get their independence from Punjabistan. That is what is happening and WILL occur if Pakistan keeps working to undermine the U.S. Afghan mission.

The U.S. Command will issue another ultimatum, “either you are against us, or with us.” The U.S. will force Pakistan to choose sides on the China issue as well. Either you side with China or India-US. Choose carefully.

Posted by Global Watcher | Report as abusive

“To split India, China can bring into its fold countries like Pakistan, Nepal and Bhutan, support Ulfa in attaining its goal for Assam’s independence, back aspirations of Indian nationalities like Tamils and Nagas, encourage Bangladesh to give a push to the independence of West Bengal and lastly recover the 90,000 sq km territory in southern Tibet,”
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/ india/Break-India-says-China-think-tank/ articleshow/4883573.cms

Posted by Umair | Report as abusive

7:19 am GMT
@Umair:

“To split India, China can bring into its fold countries like Pakistan, Nepal and Bhutan, support Ulfa in attaining its goal for Assam’s independence, back aspirations of Indian nationalities like Tamils and Nagas, encourage Bangladesh to give a push to the independence of West Bengal and lastly recover the 90,000 sq km territory in southern Tibet,”
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/ india/Break-India-says-China-think-tank/ articleshow/4883573.cms”

–>It is only a matter of time until the tide shift against Pakistan. China, your all weather friend gave you no money in your beggar bowl. The U.S. is growing more and more impatient at Pak’s stalling on fighting militantism and Russia is continuing to build strong ties on the Military Research and Security front with India.

Indian union is stronger than ever. Pakistan needs to keep an eye on its own backyard. The Punjabi’s are living a Haraam and unfair existence with their Balochi, Sindhi and Pashto brothers, who are continually seeking parity with Punjabi’s, but the Punjabi’s are not sharing.

Pakistan has started every war with India and lost each one, and its sloppy, unprofessional army surrendered twice, 1971 and Kargil. The Indian superstate is an eventual reality and the closer we get there, the more, some Paks start yelling about India being dismembered. Well, that is not going to happen, the Union, with an overwhelming win for Congress with Mr. Singh at the helm of the ship has re-affirmed the strength of India’s union and its democracy and the steel of India’s resolve.

Is that all you Pakistan’s are left with? Blame, jealousy, hatred and ill-will? It is no wonder that Pakistan is now known globally as an Islamic Terrorist country.

On the other hand, India just launched the Nano Car, built the new Brahmos2 Missile, just launched its version of the new Google Earth, has a space program, can shoot missiles upto 50km above the earth and provide much of the medical and technical brainpower to the United States of America. Just watch any american show these days and there is always an Indian diaspora doctor there! All of this done by hard work, perseverance, progress, co-operation and not one red cent of U.S. tax dollars was used to upgrade its military complex.

I am sure that the U.S. taxpayers, if given a choice, would favor dropping Pakistan as a friend, given the economic climate and the track record. India has not taken from any body, but only given productive, good things to the world at large, despite our share of our own problems, which we openly admit that we have and do not deny, but are committed to rectifying them.

Pakistan keeps taking and taking and giving only hate, blame, lies, lackluster fight Terrorism and nothing productive for its citizens or the world.

If you don’t like taking free money from U.S. taxpayers to put food on your table, gas in your tank and bullets for your guns and building nukes, kindly remit every unlawfully made penny of your share of the financial assistance to Pakistan, that amount would be approximately $92 USD.(15.5billion divided by 170,000,000 Pak Population).

Here is the source:

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/pakaid.pd f

One day the U.S. will cut off all life support for Punjabistan and Punjab is going to have to start pulling its weight and stop living off others around them and the world and start making an honest living. One day, Punjabistan will get its own dignity.

Posted by Global Watcher | Report as abusive

“To split India, China can bring into its fold countries like Pakistan, Nepal and Bhutan, support Ulfa in attaining its goal for Assam’s independence, back aspirations of Indian nationalities like Tamils and Nagas, encourage Bangladesh to give a push to the independence of West Bengal and lastly recover the 90,000 sq km territory in southern Tibet,”
- Posted by Umair

Umair, yes let us start with unification of Pakistan with China. Hey my Kashmiri brothers, are you noticing my dear Pakistani friend (who professs to be worried about Kashmir), by posting this link agrees that they all set to fuse Pakistan with China. what a feeling of patriotism on 63rd Birthday.

Pakistan Zhinda Bhag!

Posted by rajeev | Report as abusive

LMAO! Seems like, in a desperate attempt to amuse themselves, Pakistanis have discovered some crappy article about China attempting to ‘break’ India.

@ Rajeev, thanks for the reference about Gaffar Khan. I had read about him somewhere but was quite oblivious to his work & views regarding Pakistan.

Posted by Mortal | Report as abusive

@August 14, 1947 a sacred country appears on the map of the world. The ideology of this new born country is Islam. It is called as Fort of Islam. Yes, it is Pakistan. A great Country of a great Nation. Jashn-E-Azadi Mubarak (Happy Independence Day).”
- Posted by Umair

-Sacred? By Al-Qaida, LeT, and JeM standards only. Like terrorists organization JeM literally means the “Army of Mohammad”. But the actions are diametrically opposite. Pakistan, thus far, is an emabarassment to the Muslim world. The army/ISI policies are meant to achieve its targets by killing whosever comes in the way—be that Muslims or non-Muslims. This is the first case where a nuclear country’s sites are at open display. ISI plans with terrorists to kill 166 in Mumbai and its citizens instead of hanging haeads in shame say “Go LeT!” and calling Pakistan “sacred”. Some peaceful Islam if this is the fort of Islam. Oh Allah!!!

Posted by rajeev | Report as abusive

happy indepedence day to sikhishtan 16august,2009 we want our own sikhistan(sikh land) khalistan tahreek
proud to be a sikh

Posted by singh is king | Report as abusive

sing is king
What will you live off in Khalistan? No more partitions please! Do not forget, 10% of India’s forces are Sikh and Punjab (Sikh majority state) is the bread basket of India.

Posted by bulletfish | Report as abusive

pakistan is a great country.Indians have 4 times bigger military than pakistan 10 times bigger economy than pakistan and inspite of all this indians have not been able to finish pakistan for over 6 decades.It is because indians have tried their best but have failed to finish a country many times smaller.And as far as pakistani nukes are concerned some stone age barbarians cant steal them.If getting pakistani nukes would be so easy india and even US would have done it long time ago.LONG LIVE PAKISTAN

Posted by pak good | Report as abusive

@happy indepedence day to sikhishtan 16august,2009 we want our own sikhistan(sikh land) khalistan tahreek
proud to be a sikh
- Posted by singh is king

-This forum is getting interesting with intereseting but fake posters appearing to counterattack. Above is a resposne to perhaps happy independence day to Baluchistan” by Brewer.

The difference is I see no Baluch ruling Pakistan but I already see that “Singh is already a King” in India–PM Manmoohan Singh is an example.
:-)

Posted by rajeev | Report as abusive

“happy indepedence day to sikhishtan 16august,2009 we want our own sikhistan(sikh land) khalistan tahreek
proud to be a sikh”
- Posted by singh is king

LMAO, Nice try Pakistani! If you’re gonna disguise yourself as a Sikh, at least make the effort to become more believable. Your Pakistaniness is quite apparent & blatant. I’m an actual Sikh/Singh & I don’t know of any Sikh in his right mind in India or elsewhere, who wants Khalistan. You Pakistanis need to stop living in the 80′s. India Zindabad!

Posted by Mortal | Report as abusive

pakistan is a great country.Indians have 4 times bigger military than pakistan 10 times bigger economy than pakistan and inspite of all this indians have not been able to finish pakistan for over 6 decades.
- Posted by pak good

Good stuff man! Again, what madrasaa you in?

Posted by brewer | Report as abusive

@Mortal, you said:

““happy indepedence day to sikhishtan 16august,2009 we want our own sikhistan(sikh land) khalistan tahreek
proud to be a sikh”
- Posted by singh is king

LMAO, Nice try Pakistani! If you’re gonna disguise yourself as a Sikh, at least make the effort to become more believable. Your Pakistaniness is quite apparent & blatant. I’m an actual Sikh/Singh & I don’t know of any Sikh in his right mind in India or elsewhere, who wants Khalistan. You Pakistanis need to stop living in the 80’s. India Zindabad!”

–>Mortal (Sasri Akal Singh!) I am also tired of Pakistani’s using Sikhs in this manner. Sikhs are a proud people, with an advanced religious philosophy that is peaceful and progressive. As a Punjabi Speaking Brahmin Hindu, we are extremely very proud of our Sikh leaders, and the successful Sikh community diaspora at large around the world, which is progressive and an integral part of the larger Indian family. If it was not for the brave Sikhs, who defended Indian land, India would be a different map today. I ask our Pak friends not to put down the potential of our Sikh brothers and sisters and keep crying about them not having Khalistan, when they can rule all of India, just like Mr. Manhoman Singh is, the #1 Sikh. Sikh nation potential is much greater than a small village of Khalistan, it is global, progressive, peaceful, prosperous and not on the side of Pakistani terrorists.

Khalistan is a Pakistani project to dismember Indian potential and it is for bottom feeders who advocate terrorism, war, theft and lying.

I commend you Mortal for being much bigger, grander and larger than just Khalistan. Raj Karayga Khalsa!

Posted by Global Watcher | Report as abusive

What a silly article. Nukes are not grenades that someone can grab in a raid and then use the next day.

Pad Good says:

“pakistan is a great country.Indians have 4 times bigger military than pakistan 10 times bigger economy than pakistan and inspite of all this indians have not been able to finish pakistan for over 6 decades.It is because indians have tried their best but have failed to finish a country many times smaller.And as far as pakistani nukes are concerned some stone age barbarians cant steal them.If getting pakistani nukes would be so easy india and even US would have done it long time ago.LONG LIVE PAKISTAN”

–>India is a peaceful nation my dear Pak friend. India does not even need an army to finish Pakistan. Pakistan is already finished by being kept on life support by the IMF and U.S. and other charitable nations who have been duped or held hostage to give beggar bowl money to Pakistan. Be grateful and thankful to God that it is India that is next door to you. If Pakistan were next door to China, Russia or the U.S., they would not have stood by the last three wars as India did and let you survive, they would have dismembered Pakistan swiftly and mercilessly, especially the Chinese. Don’t kid yourself, Pakistan is sitting on the edge of a cliff, held only by its shirt collars by the U.S. and a hand few of World Bankers who are ready for you to mortgage all your Pakistani land for the next 500 generations.

India has not even tried to touch Pakistan, let alone finish it. If India wanted to finish Pakistan, it would not take more than a few weeks, despite your dud Chinese nukes.

Pakistani’s are obsessed being in a state of enmity with India and reason itself, while the rest of the world focuses on productive endeavors.

Everday before you have your meals, you should thank the U.S. taxpayers, so that you can still put food on the table. Your all-weather friend China did not even give a bowl of rice, despite their Billions of Trade surplus with the world, but I am sure that they will give you weapons to kill Indians.

Posted by Global Watcher | Report as abusive

@As a Punjabi Speaking Brahmin Hindu, we are extremely very proud of our Sikh leaders, and the successful Sikh community diaspora at large around the world, which is progressive and an integral part of the larger Indian family. If it was not for the brave Sikhs, who defended Indian land, India would be a different map today.”
-Global watcher

-Global watcher and Mortal: I agree; I am a Punjabi-speaking non-Brahmin Hindu. Ranjit Singh ruled for nearly half a century the current pakistan, most of Indian Punjab, Kashmir. He had Durbar in Lahore. Very secular administrator–having Hindus, Muslims and even many Europians as part of the civil/military administration. British did not step in untill his death so much was his strength recognized. And yes who will forget Hari Singh Nalwa, the legendary General of Ranjit Singh.

Reminds me Sikh war cry that perhaps many times echoed in Khyber:
“Sri Wah-e-Guru Ji Da Khalsa Sri, Wah-e-Guru Ji Di Fateh”

Posted by rajeev | Report as abusive

Global watcher & Rajeev:

It’s no secret that since 1971, propelled by blind vengeance & hatred, Pakistanis have lusted at the prospect of breaking India. To further their agenda, they’ve tried to alienate Indian Sikhs & Muslims but neither did it work with the sikhs in the 80′s nor has it or will it ever work with the muslims. Pakistanis (on this blog & elsewhere), often cite the 1984 sikh riots & Gujarat incidents etc. to point fingers at India’s secularism & I always tell them that yes, I agree that shameful events have happened in our past & we are far from being perfect but such forgettable events are a part of the secularization & evolutionary process of every secular democracy, including the US, where blacks were segregated till the 60′s (& believe it or not, are systematically segregated even today, in some parts).

I grew up partially in India & partly in America. I was born in Bombay & grew up amongst Hindus, Muslims, Christians & Parsees & here in America, I have white, black, hispanic, asian friends etc. My point is that I have the first hand experience to say that besides America, India is the only country, which can boast of having truly secularist credentials. Yes, it’s far from perfect but as the country progresses & the populace becomes more literate, tolerant & aware, sooner or later, it’ll get there. I travel to India every year & I see the changes there.

As for the Pakistanis, you need not worry about Indian sikhs or muslims because we are all one & united. You should worry about the Balochs, Sindhis & Pashtoons, against whom atrocities & injustices are being committed every day. The compassion that you guys seem to show for Kasmiris (on online blogs etc), even if you reserve 10% of that for your brethren in Pakistan, all your problems will be solved.

Posted by Mortal | Report as abusive

Global watcher and Rajeev
(Ref: August 21st, 2009 5:07 pm GMT, August 22nd, 2009 6:19 am GMT)
Object your description of your backgrounds, is disappointing, indeed.
One needs to be conservative in ones description of background. The statement ought to have stopped with Iam a Punjabi hindu and not add anymore further categorization in this 21st century we live in. I say Im Andhra Hindu and stop there. Is nt it the greatness of our Hinduism, it always encouraged reforms and shed older practices that were hurting society/ religion and our religion went on embracing more liberalism, that in turn provided all humanity with exceptional scriptures like Upanishads, Vedas and Gita. Sage Valmiki and sage vyasa were from lesser privileged sections and Krishna was raised by cow herders. Both Rama and Krishna were of darker skin color. The vedic scholars, millennia ago had envisioned it all that every minor detail was not missed right from the beginning.

(Im not lecturing you, I admire you guys, hence the outpouring.) Read the smear campaign going on in the western world.

Exlore the weblinks including comments. Cheers. We are hindus the most tolerant and most inclusive.
http://www.neurope.eu/articles/95375.php
http://www.newsweek.com/id/212155

Azad:
You are right in your last post. My fault. Thanks. Point is well-received.

Posted by rajeev | Report as abusive

[...] Pakistani nuclear facilities Posted by admin on 14 August 2009, 12:39 am Original post by Reuters Staff and software by Elliott Back Filed under 5281 Comment (RSS)  |  Trackback [...]

Pakistan is not a threat to India. Why would Pakistan nuke India. Pakistan is a threat to Israel. Pakistan is an old ally to China. West and North of Pakistan is a most suitable route for China to reach out into Middle East and Gulf. China is needed huge energy resources for next century and future energy pipe lines and cargo lines from North & East Africa, Middle East and Central Asian States would be converged into Persian Gulf and Gulf of Aden. Israel would be the main beneficiary to these new energy lines. Courtesy USA, China is needed to be isolated from all these resources. Pakistan is a threat to Israel not India.
Long Live Pakistan. Long Live Pakistan Nukes.

Posted by WikkiKhan | Report as abusive

@Courtesy USA, China is needed to be isolated from all these resources. Pakistan is a threat to Israel not India.
Long Live Pakistan. Long Live Pakistan Nukes.
- Posted by WikkiKhan

-WikkiKhan: My head is spinning from your post and I could not get any clear information from your post. Would you like to elaborate?

One point that I got from your post is “Pakistan is a threat to Israel.”—Can you explain what will happen to Pakistan if Pakistan let us say fire a Nuke at Isreal. Isreal also has the same toy. Will USA sit silently and and clap or nuke Pak. Attacking Israel will be like attacking USA. Essence of USA-Isreal relationship is well described by a Jewish friend of mine who says that USA protects Isreal like a dog.

India is always pakistan’s friend as you know.

Posted by rajeev | Report as abusive

(response to MR. Rajeev’s comment)
Pakistan relies on no one except ALLAH for existaence, and so who protects whom n who is the friend
of whom least bothers Pakistan. Machines and men are not there because they protect, they are just obedience to the command of preparation, to protect however is only Allah,and any one who aims to devide Pakistan is mistaken, Pakistanis are like those kids who run to lap of their mother, even she is beating them hard.

Posted by Riderrr | Report as abusive