Comments on: Jaish building new base in Pakistan’s south Punjab-report http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/09/13/jaish-building-new-base-in-pakistans-south-punjab-report/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Ryan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/09/13/jaish-building-new-base-in-pakistans-south-punjab-report/comment-page-2/#comment-23136 Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:54:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=3562#comment-23136 Some really interesting stuff on JeM in this blog post and in the comments as well!http://www.icsr.info/blog/Bahawalpu rs-Real-Estate-Boom

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By: Rohit http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/09/13/jaish-building-new-base-in-pakistans-south-punjab-report/comment-page-2/#comment-23075 Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:57:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=3562#comment-23075 Is this new training center fully functional? Does anyone has any update on the project?

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By: Global Watcher http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/09/13/jaish-building-new-base-in-pakistans-south-punjab-report/comment-page-2/#comment-23069 Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:44:56 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=3562#comment-23069 @Rajeev,”To add to your prediction, about the war, Pakistan will have initial edge over India since pakistan will know when, where and what scale the attack will be happening.”–>The only way that Pakistan will have an edge, if it launches a pre-emptive crippling nuclear attack against India. Pakistan would be wiped clean in a retaliatory strike.This will also mark an extremely dark age for mankind, as Pakistan’s evil behavior could potentially militarily polarize and create a blow back situation where all manners of conflicts will erupt all over the globe and that could lead to WWIII or worse, armageddon.Traditionally, nukes, most security analysts agree, ensure peace through mutally assured destruction and that check and balance prevents one from attacking the other, just like in the Cold War.The difference between Pakistan and India is that Pakistan, while being nuclear, is continuing to propagate terrorism against India in its attempt to keep an edge over India. Pakistan as a nuclear power, is a cheater that is walking a fine line. One would think that being a nuclear country, it would be more responsible and not indulge in such nefarious activities.Pakistan wants to keep its nukes and still keep terrorists. It can’t seem to decide which it likes better.You cannot have your cake and eat it too. Perhaps the U.S. in the not too distant future, is going to make Pakistan choose.Indians do not care if Pakistan has its nukes, but if it does, it cannot have madrassas, terror training camps, support terrorists and play double dealing games with the world.One has to go completely, nukes or terrorism. I ask any of our Pakistani bloggers to choose.

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By: Global Watcher http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/09/13/jaish-building-new-base-in-pakistans-south-punjab-report/comment-page-2/#comment-23067 Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:08:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=3562#comment-23067 Mortal,Thanks for the link to the story showing Hafiz Saeed, the Pakistani behind 26/11 Mumbai massacre partying at an Iftar party with Pak Army.Shows again and again, that Pakistan is incapable of honesty, cohorts with terrorists, has a lackluster fight against Taliban and terrorism and in the same breath expects un-conditional aid from U.S. and unconditional talks with India.To us, the rest of the civilized world, Pakistani establishment belongs in an insane asylum.

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By: Mortal http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/09/13/jaish-building-new-base-in-pakistans-south-punjab-report/comment-page-2/#comment-23054 Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:21:26 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=3562#comment-23054 Umair:Yesterday you posted a link about the restrictions imposed on Hafiz Saeed. Today, I’m posting a link to a story which says that Hafiz Saeed attended an Iftar party, hosted by the Pakistan army. Tell me, what are Indians supposed to think after reading this?http://www.timesnow.tv/Pakistan-Arm y-hosts-LeT-chief-at-Iftar/articleshow/4 327886.cms

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By: rajeev http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/09/13/jaish-building-new-base-in-pakistans-south-punjab-report/comment-page-2/#comment-23047 Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:28:14 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=3562#comment-23047 @Pakistan is in a precarious position, if non-state actors sabotage and attack India it can spark a full scale war between the two countries. In other words Pakistan wants to hug, but India is not willing to shake hands. Every one else looses here and the non-state actors win.-posted by UmairUmair: Explain us how can you call Kasab a non-state actors? he is Pakistani citizen—your fellow countryman– admitted by your government.What’s wrong here? calling LeT types terrorist a Jihadi and when they strike and kill hundreds of the innocents, including Muslims, the same Jihadis are called “no-true Muslims” and “non-state actors”. There is nothing like non-state actors—these are known terrorists like JeM Chief Azhar and LeT chief Saeed who are protected by Pakistan.To add to your prediction, about the war, Pakistan will have initial edge over India since pakistan will know when, where and what scale the attack will be happening.

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By: Mortal http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/09/13/jaish-building-new-base-in-pakistans-south-punjab-report/comment-page-2/#comment-23044 Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:00:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=3562#comment-23044 Umair:This is the difference between India’s perspective & that of Pakistan’s; We’re asking you to try & hang/electrocute/behead Haafiz Saeed & you are posting a link which says that his movements have been restricted. We’ve seen terrorists like Saeed restricted & jailed before many times only to be set free to continue their anti-india terror activities, when the dust settles in. And please don’t tell me that there isn’t enough proof against Saeed & others because if the Pakistani army wants to punish someone, they can certainly do so without any reservations (case in point being Z.A. Bhutto, one of the most powerful men in Pakistan at the time he was hanged). So what exactly are Indians supposed to think when we read stories like Azhar Mehmood & his outfit JeM building a brand new anti-India terror facility with a swimming pool, playground etc. right under the nose of the Pakistani establishment?The main problem that India faces with Pakistan is that nobody can say for sure if the civilian Govt & the Pak army/ISI are on the same page. In my opinion, Zardari is someone who is genuinely interested in having good relations with India but the question is: how much is he in control? After the Mumbai attacks last year, he said that the ISI chief Pasha would be visiting India but the army made him retract. Later he said that Pakistan, as a gesture of goodwill, would be willing to adopt a ‘no first strike’ nuclear policy against India but your army made him retract. Later he said that India wasn’t a danger to Pakistan in any way & the next day, his own PM, Gilani came out & contradicted that statement. So you tell me, who & what exactly is India supposed to deal with & trust?

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By: GLobal Watcher http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/09/13/jaish-building-new-base-in-pakistans-south-punjab-report/comment-page-2/#comment-23037 Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:31:35 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=3562#comment-23037 Typo in previous posting, please note corrections in CAPS:Pakistan must start drawing down its troops to fight terrorism and India will reciprocate. That will create more resources for Pak to fight Taliban; resources that WILL BE AVAILABLE TO COMBAT THE TALIBAN.India will only hug Pakistan, if it takes the knife out of the other hand, that it constantly sticks in INDIA’S back.

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By: Global Watcher http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/09/13/jaish-building-new-base-in-pakistans-south-punjab-report/comment-page-2/#comment-23036 Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:29:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=3562#comment-23036 A pakistani blogger here says:”So, Pakistan too has limited resources, we need drones, more fighter jets. We need time and peaceful relations with India to counter and control ‘non-state actors’. Pakistan is in a precarious position, if non-state actors sabotage and attack India it can spark a full scale war between the two countries. In other words Pakistan wants to hug, but India is not willing to shake hands. Every one else looses here and the non-state actors win.”–>Another lie…Pakistan has plenty of soldiers(700,000 Army), they have setup permanent shop in Pak Kashmir and Pakistan Army is unwilling to re-orient them towards Western Flank to do the real fight against the Taliban. Pakistan prefers to enmity with India and pretend to talk peace while, they keep planning the next terrorism and keep helping Taliban.Pakistan must start drawing down its troops to fight terrorism and India will reciprocate. That will create more resources for Pak to fight Taliban; resources thatIndia will only hug Pakistan, if it takes the knife out of the other hand, that it constantly sticks in Pakistan’s back.The time is over for games and the U.S. should focus its strategy on Pakistan Army and Pakistani State Agencies, the source for most of the undermining of military efforts in Afghanistan.U.S. General McChrystal also states that Taliban are incapable of functioning without help from Pakistani state agencies.On another note, it also seems that Iranian State Agencies are also fueling Taliban in Afghanistan. Perhaps a more comprehensive regional military strategy is required.

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By: Umair http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/09/13/jaish-building-new-base-in-pakistans-south-punjab-report/comment-page-2/#comment-23017 Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:46:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=3562#comment-23017 Mortal:I forgot to add one thing. IF you feel that all the names you mentioned who are wanted by India; Hafiz Saeed, Masood Azhar, Lakhvi, Dawood Inrahim should be handed over to India. Than do you agree that India and Pakistan should sign an extradition treaty? This will help to exchange wanted persons by each country’s police and Law enforcement agencies. Now how is this possible unless India and Pakistan get start talking, talk hard, and talk often. Initially there will be setbacks, negotiations will fail, then restarted, success might be slow to come but eventually trying hard continuosly will pay off to resolve all outstanding issues. Composite dialogue and back channel talks are the way to go, pressure tactics dont work against Pakistan.

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