Attack in Rawalpindi: are Pakistan’s militant groups uniting?

October 10, 2009

An attack on the headquarters of the Pakistan Army in the city of Rawalpindi has highlighted the country’s vulnerability to a backlash from Islamist militants in the Pakistani Taliban as it prepares an offensive against their stronghold in South Waziristan. It follows a suicide bombing in Peshawar which prompted Interior Minister Rehman Malik to say that ”all roads are leading to South Waziristan.”

But what is perhaps more troubling about the attack is not so much the backlash from the Pakistani Taliban (the Tehrik-e-Taliban, or TTP)  holed up in the Waziristan tribal areas bordering Afghanistan, but rather suggestions of growing co-operation between al Qaeda-linked groups there and those based in Punjab, the heartland of Pakistan.

Analysts have long argued that the biggest danger to Pakistan would come not from the tribal areas, but from the creation of a stregthening coalition of militant groups which brought together the Pakistani Taliban, al Qaeda, and militant groups based in Punjab – which include sectarian groups and those originally set up to fight India in Kashmir.

According to the New York Times, the militants behind the attack were a mixed group from across Pakistan. It quoted an unnamed military official as saying that some came from the tribal areas, some from Punjab and some from Pakistani Kashmir.

Pakistan’s GEO TV said it had received a call from the Tehrik-e-Taliban (Ajmad Farooqi) group claiming responsibility for the attack. The caller demanded, among other things, that former president Pervez Musharraf be held accountable.

Claims of responsibility are just that - a claim that remains to be verified. But I looked up Musharraf’s autobiography “In the Line of Fire” to see what he had to say about Ajmad Farooqi. According to Musharraf, Farooqi was a senior al Qaeda operative who had been involved in the killing of U.S. journalist Daniel Pearl in 2002, and subsequently was involved in two attempts to assassinate him.  Farooqi was killed in a shoot-out with Pakistani security forces in the town of Nawabshah in Sind province in 2004, after a manhunt held under the supervision of current Pakistan Army head General Pervez Ashfaq Kayani.

Here is what Musharraf had to say about Farooqi’s links to Punjab: In the manhunt, Pakistan started by tracking his phone calls. “In September 2004 we found that he was talking to two people in particular, in the Punjabi dialect of Faisalbad, the third largest of our cities in central Punjab.”

As discussed earlier on this blog, including here and here, the danger from Islamist militants in Punjab tends to be overlooked in the focus on tackling the Pakistani Taliban in the tribal areas bordering Afghanistan.  But if it turns out that those behind the attack on the Pakistan Army headquarters were not only from the remote areas bordering Afghanistan but also from the heartland of the country, then the risk to Pakistan’s stability has just got a lot bigger.

(Photos: Soldiers take position in Rawalpindi; and Pakistan army chief, General Kayani)

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–The caller demanded, among other things, that former
president Pervez Musharraf be held accountable–

Can you plz tell the caller that Musharraf is busy on a lecture circuit in US, explaining how he swindled $6.5bil US aid and raking up $150K per explanation in every lecture!

Posted by Sam | Report as abusive

Myra,
You forgot to mention about the Paki nukes! If 4-5 people took the army hostage, how safe are the nukes?

We should fix Pakistan be4 we fix IRAN!

Posted by JOhn | Report as abusive

US concerns about terrorists training centers in Quetta, Peshawar and Murdike are valid, justified!

Why is the Pakistan army making making so much noise when asked to clean the training centers?

Posted by Robin | Report as abusive

This is what happens when you use your own people for insurgency against your enemy. I am talking all the years of training, motivation, finance, entertainment provided for these fundamentalist elements by the Pak army/ ISI for terrorism in india. These elements are now strong enough to think on their own and now they see a ripe fruit right before their eyes which is takeover of pakistan with all its infrastructure. This what i call egg falling on your own face. The sad thing is pak still hasnt learnt the lesson. I am an indian, I was reading how the pak army was firing on indian positions last month to create cover for terrorists to sneak in and I am thinking do you pakistanis ever learn a lesson, are your brains so thick with hatred against india that you will put your own future and destiny at risk.

Posted by bjy | Report as abusive

“Attack in Rawalpindi: are Pakistan’s militant groups uniting?”

A few months ago, me & a few blogers on this blog were discussing this exact scenario & it seems to be coming true. We had concluded then, that ultimately Taliban & the groups in the North west & AQ would combine forces with the Punjabi groups like JeM, LeT etc. to fight the Pak army. I’m afraid it will get much worse as I feel that this is just the beginning of this bloody battle & unfortunately innocent civilians will pay a heavy price as bombs (like the one in Peshawar the other day) go off in Karachi, Islamabad, Lahore & other Pakistani cities.

Posted by Mortal | Report as abusive

India should demand that US follows through all it’s aid conditions and cleans all ISI’s militant training centers in Pakistan!

Rampant uncontrolled US aid is destroying the region.

Posted by John | Report as abusive

Our nation needs unity at this time against terrorism and the other countries should also stop interfring in our country. Our nukes are safe, its only the people who are jelous of us as a nuclear power making propagandas, so plz stop it.

pakistan was always a coalition of warring factions. the govet we see is a small part made up of the educated and sophisticated elite who use the lesser “westernised” MPs to rally voters. during musharraf’s regime, all the tribals organised and united against what they saw as an anti-al qaeda govt. afghanistan and pakistan share a very close and well-bonded relationship – like canada and the US, the border exists but only on paper. inter-marriages with the afghanis is still used to win over support and some amount of security. the tribals in pakistan have more in common with those in afghanistan than with the rest of the country. they act as one. the US is curiously blind to this close connection – you help the taliban when you help pakistan. every dollar you give (non-military aid – what a joke) ends up funding some anti-democratic activity. if this “attack” had succeeded, we would have a wild brigand of violent people armed with nukes. i thought the US was in charge of securing their nuclear facilities. well, best of luck, guys. let us see you deal with your own frankenstein.

Posted by ms | Report as abusive

With respect to the comments above, ground realities should have been known before making any comment. The Pak nuclear facilities are under robust command and control mechanism. Make no mistake, there is no threat to the nukes. We are a responsible state and understand what it takes to go nuclear against a country. As for India, the movement in Indian Occupied Kashmir (IOK) is totally indigenous. Not Pak Army, but India as a state has sponsored terrorism. Even though Pakistanis try to consider india as a friend, it is india which reiterates the assertion that India has never accepted Pak as a sovereign nation. I also urge our esteemed writers to see less of Hollywood movies which show Doomsday scenario of this sort. And nobody should worry about the destiny and future of Pak, it is secure and well on its way to prosperity.

Posted by Faisal | Report as abusive

The perception that Pakistan has been supporting terrorists is ill founded. Please understand that Pakistan never had this capability until it was armed by the entire world, most importantly US. And never underestimate the resolve of Pakistanis. It is a challenge which the people of this great ountry will face squarely and rid the country of this menace, which has been sponsored mainly from abraod.

Posted by Tahir | Report as abusive

Yes Pakistan regards India is their greatest enemy of as it facilitated division of Pakistan by attacking East Pakistan and dividing Pakistan in 1971. How can Pakistan trust such country.

According to the Pakistani Government India has been interfering and is involved in trying to use Afghanistan consulates on the borders for clandestine activity to help the Baluchistan separatists. The proofs have been supplied to the Indian PM by the Pakistani PM.

As for the proof that Pakistani Government or army is directly involved in Mumbai attacks are just hearsay by the Indian Government and unproven so far.

While the Taliban and Al-Qaida enemy of Pakistan exists but is temporary and controllable and has been completely defeated in Swat and Malakand region that is 100 kilometers of settled area.

Now the only area that is controlled by Taliban and Al-Qaida South Waziristan is totally surrounded and they are being regularly bombed for last 3-4 months and their messages have been intercepted and they are saying they are short of supplies and need help soon.

Pakistan is moving slowly and methodically to make sure that the enemy is weak before acting against them. Therefore chances of success seem very bright and they will be wiped out very soon as the army has support of the common person. This makes the present situation seems far better then the previous attacks by the Pakistan Army.

Taliban and Al-Qaida before being wiped out completely in Pakistan and so any attack now is their last stand.

These positives need to be also be taken into consideration before writing the doomsday stories but that requires vision.

Posted by ratee | Report as abusive

Using insurgency to defeat an enemy comes with a great risk. So long as insurgency is carried out at a remote location using local population, it achieves the desired goal. Many countries have done this and succeeded in their efforts. India did that in East Pakistan. The US did that in Afghanistan against the Soviets. In the case of India, it did not preserve the insurgency in East Pakistan for future use. The US unfortunately left the region after its goal was achieved and allowed Pakistan to breed the elements for its future use against India. India itself burnt its fingers sponsoring insurgency inside Sri Lanka and in Punjab. Khalistani movement was encouraged by the late Sanjay Gandhi and Bhindranwale went out of control at some point. Governments should never sponsor terrorism to achieve their goals rapidly. Pakistan tried to rely heavily on insurgency and lost its awareness of the risk involved. Now it is beginning to burn from within. If Pakistan manages to clean out the terrorists in its territory, its citizens and leaders should swear to themselves that they’ll never go in that direction ever again. One can always argue and dispute with Indians and other as much as they want. It is harmless. But to spend all the energy and resources into creating a monster for that purpose will lead to a situation like today. I sincerely hope Pakistani leaders have learnt a lesson. And those Pakistani citizens who get thrilled when India suffers from terrorist attacks, should think hard and see what the world has become. Hearts have to change first before reality changes. Normal Pakistanis, this is the time to drop the animosity towards and India and reach out to us. Most Indians are friendly and will come forward to help. We’d like you to live well. Terrorism is evil and no one deserves to fall victim to it. Go ahead and organize yourselves to start a movement against terrorism and radical religious education. There are lot of Indians who will help you. The whole region needs to be cleansed of Islamic radicalism. Only the people can do it. Governments and militaries will only offer destructive solutions. We can always argue about superiority in cricket, TV shows etc. But as people, we all deserve to live a good life. This is a wake up call for all decent Pakistanis. It is time for you to rise and save your country from its rulers. This includes your military as well.

Pakistani army has lost 2000 soldiers and USA has lost 600 troops so far.

Do you think Pakistani army has gone nuts in supporting the enemies that are killing their own civilians and themselves?

What do you mean that this proves Pakistan has camps in Quetta, Murdike and Peshawar to destroy Pakistan itself?

Posted by ratee | Report as abusive

I think there has been intelligence on the nexus between the Taliban, Al Qaeda and Pakistani based militant/terrorist groups. It should therefore, not come as a surprise that they have now decided to act tough for numerous reasons. To take the heat off army action in Swat and Wazirstan, to send home a message that ‘we were your assets and you seem to be forgetting that.’ One line of thought is also that this is to indicate that the Taliban has recovered from the recent reverses.

Be that as it may, the fact remains that Pakistan has to make a choice, and make it fast. Either it decides to go whole hog and neutralise all threats now or continue with its wink, wink, nudge, nudge foolishness with insurgent and terrorist groups. The latter will only strngthen the monster whoich will return with renewed vigour later. Unfortunately there is no ally that Pakistan can call upon to do the dirty work for them.

In some respects, India’s dilemma with the naxals was similar. Fortunately under a new Home Minister there is talk of a clear far sighted policy being put in place.

Posted by Dara | Report as abusive

6 Terrorists attacked the GHQ. 4 died during the gun battle on the check post, that leaves 2 terrorists.

These 2 managed to kill a Brigadier and a Lt Col (very senior level people) and take 25 armymen as hostages???

Please help me understand how is this possible? doesnt every army personnel carry a side arm?

How do 2 millitants get past everyone and assasinate a Brigadier and Lt COl just before the PA is about to launch an offensive in Waziristan??

Were there any sympathizers of the terrorists who helped them? are factions of PA against the proposed offensive in waziristan?

I have said this before and I will say it Again PA has very independant generals who command thier own small factions and thier loyalties (sometime based on thier ethenicity i.e pushtun, punjabi etc).

The split between Gilani & Army VS Zardari & PML-N was obvious but now do we have dissent amongst the rank in file of the Pak Army as well?

Posted by indian1127 | Report as abusive

It is funny that the pak govt. has to be jolted up from its dream by their adversaries themselves, in spite of repeated warnings by the international community. Anyways, as it is said, learning is best when learnt through experience.

Posted by pcsjith | Report as abusive

While the attack took place at the outer main gate check post of one of the GHQ entrance, generally there was calm around Rawalpindi yesterday and business as usual even at the nearby malls while the siege was under way. No one got panicked and overnight the Army commandoes carried out the rescue operation in Dawn and successfully rescued almost all hostages while suffering a couple of casualties. Unlike many other attacks like a few in Lahore, the terrorists in Rawalpindi did not manage to escape.
This morning the mood was somber, with funerals of Army officers taking place at the nearby Army graveyard and some of the roads blocked with Military Police patrolling them. This would mean more roads blocked for residents like me who have to travel between Rawalpindi and Islamabad daily.
But make no mistake, Pakistan is resilient and Pakistanis will fight back. We will be a wall of steel against the CIA hired blackwater mercenaries who are recruiting in Pakistan and any other terrorist outfits that would try to reach for Pakistan’s nuclear weapons or destablize Pakistan. Though the impression would be that Pakistan is getting unstable. I have full confidence on the armed forces and intelligence services, we support our Army and salute the soldiers who were martyred while confronting the terrorists.
During these times, Pakistan Army must storm South Waziristan with all firepower at the disposal and let Hakeem Ullah Mehsud and his terrorist associates feel the heat.
In the GHQ attack, this time a closeby neighbour of ours have been martyred who worked as civilian staff. May Allah bless the souls of the martyred and unite the nation during this time of test. Ameen

Long Live Pakistan!
Long Live Pakistan Army!

Posted by Umair | Report as abusive

Indian1127
“I have said this before and I will say it Again PA has very independant generals who command thier own small factions and thier loyalties (sometime based on thier ethenicity i.e pushtun, punjabi etc).”

-There is no question of a crisis in the chain of command in Pakistan Army. In Pakistan Army there is only one green and white flag with the crescent and star, there is one country and one nation to defend. Patriotism is the hallmark of Pakistan Army. The unity of command, and morale among officers and men and their committment to Pakistan is unquestionable.
I think the best way to demonstrate its capability by Pakistan Army would be to pull off the Waziristan operation with a great success. And you will see it in coming days and weeks ahead. InshAllah.

No enemy will be spared from within and outside, Blackwater mercaneries and terrorists alike, cold blooded killers, criminal thugs or who ever.
My prayers are with the officers and men of Pakistan Army.

Posted by Umair | Report as abusive

The split between Gilani & Army VS Zardari & PML-N was obvious but now do we have dissent amongst the rank in file of the Pak Army as well?

- Posted by indian1127
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You are touching on a very important point – the fault lie in pakistan today potentially leading to civil war situation.

The tensions within Pakistan are between 2 groups, this division is in the pak army also.

ONE group is for global jihad, completely anti-american, stands for global Islamic causes/ agenda. For the SECOND group the interests of pakistan state comes first.The second group is interested in using terrorism selectively against India and Afgnaistan while milking the US for aid money, wants to play the futile geostrategic games it has played for 62 years.

The second group’s plans for selective use of terrorism has badly backfired and is blowing up on their face.

“Not Pak Army, but India as a state has sponsored terrorism. Even though Pakistanis try to consider india as a friend, it is india which reiterates the assertion that India has never accepted Pak as a sovereign nation. I also urge our esteemed writers to see less of Hollywood movies which show Doomsday scenario of this sort. And nobody should worry about the destiny and future of Pak, it is secure and well on its way to prosperity.
- Posted by Faisal ”

–>Wrong comment, in fact Pakistan, is now acknowledged to be the most dangerous place in the world, Pakistan is the epicentre of ALL Islamic Terrorism in the world.

“India has never accepted Pak as a sovereign nation”

–>Wrong again, you Paks have sold your sovereignty over and over again to China, now the U.S. and foreign fighters. By your complacency, you have let them set up shop and establish themselves in your country. India is not the source of international terrorism, but India is the source of IT, Information Technology.

You can keep your nukes and your country, we don’t care what you do, so long as you quit interfering with the GOODWILL work we are doing in Afghanistan and you quit sending Jihadi’s into Kashmir to butcher unarmed civilians. Your terror groups, trained by your army for the last 20 years are no mystery to any state agency in the world. We all have the internet and see things in real time as they are spoken and discussed in Pakistan amonst yourselves. Pakistan still won’t arrest and jail Daewood Ibrahim and others and continues to harbour criminals and terrorist elements that use young children to kill themselves and kill unarmed innocent civilians.

The Indian Army is in Kashmir to maintain security, that Pakistan keeps trying to break, by send its state trained proxy armies there, to commit separatist and terrorist activities.

Kashmiris, Balochis and Afghanis are tired of Pakistan Punjabi’s causing so much terror in the region.

Balochistan has their own minerals and wealth and don’t need Pakistan for anything, please set them free, they are a sovereign nation.

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Pak Blogger said:

“Indian1127
“I have said this before and I will say it Again PA has very independant generals who command thier own small factions and thier loyalties (sometime based on thier ethenicity i.e pushtun, punjabi etc).”

-There is no question of a crisis in the chain of command in Pakistan Army. In Pakistan Army there is only one green and white flag with the crescent and star, there is one country and one nation to defend. Patriotism is the hallmark of Pakistan Army. The unity of command, and morale among officers and men and their committment to Pakistan is unquestionable.”

–>Let’s send the Pak Army into south Punjab, my friend. How about the inside job from Pak Army, with regards to the assassination attempts on Mushie baby? I don’t think the loyalty of Pak Generals has been tested to see where their loyalties lie. It is too early to tell. We will see where they lie, once the Pak Army starts to smash doors in South Punjab and Kashmir, in the search of terrorists and militants. We will see what sort of unity your flag has then. Divisions in the Pak loyalties WILL show with time. Generals will not be willing to goto their own home neighbourhoods to kill militants. Generals are more loyal to their ethnicities and their old stomping grounds.

With regards to:

“My prayers are with the officers and men of Pakistan Army.”

–>Even as an Indian, I can always agree with that. The world hopes that every Pakistani soldier returns home safe to their families, after they successfully complete their mission.

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Mr. Singh said:

“India itself burnt its fingers sponsoring insurgency inside Sri Lanka and in Punjab. Khalistani movement was encouraged by the late Sanjay Gandhi and Bhindranwale went out of control at some point. Governments should never sponsor terrorism to achieve their goals rapidly.”

–>Singh, what have you been smoking? I thought you were a pretty smart and insightful kind of guy, then you say something that originate from the other end of the universe. Khalistani movement was fueled and supported by Pakistan. You need to get old outdated Khalistani lies and propaganda removed from your head. Don’t get me wrong, as a Punjabi Hindu, I don’t like the Gandhi’s all that much either, for what they did to the Sikh’s and Operation Bluestar, but the stories, after their death and the conspiracy fairy tales, just keep getting better. Why would the son, fuel an insurgency against his own mother, Indira? Please talk sense.

Posted by GW | Report as abusive

“Long Live Pakistan!
Long Live Pakistan Army!”

That is interesting. One is going to survive at the expense of the other if this attitude continues. An Army is not a country. Pakistanis will need to realize that fast. Otherwise, it will be fighting war after war.

Faisal said:

—> Make no mistake, there is no threat to the nukes.

YOU mean as in “Make no mistake, there is no threat to the GHQ”?.

—>As for India, the movement in Indian Occupied Kashmir (IOK) is totally indigenous.

THIS IS AN international blog which means you need some credibility. You are making yourself a laughing stock by making such declarations.

—-> Even though Pakistanis try to consider india as a friend

If your TRYing to consider India as a friend leads to your war mongering and sending terrorists to shoot at unarmed civilians, what would happen if you TRY to consider India as an enemy!

—–> And nobody should worry about the destiny and future of Pak

THE DESTINY of the whole world has been placed at stake because of your reckless behavior. One epithet to describe your country is “international migraine”.

—–> it is secure and well on its way to prosperity.

WHAT are you smoking?

United States should contribute money, but not advice, to his country’s counterterrorism efforts: Musharraf

“I am a firm believer that Pakistan is a country that has the resources and human capital to rise on its own with no assistance from anybody in the world,”

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metr opolitan/6662154.html

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Zardari to test strength of democracy and KLB!

“Pak President contemplatinmg to replace Army Chief”
http://www.metransparent.com/spip.php?pa ge=article&id_article=8421&lang=en

Posted by John | Report as abusive

Another Coup by the Army is very much on the cards now.

Posted by Kashyap | Report as abusive

It is just a matter of time before pakistan completely fails.The army is the most powerfull institution in pakistan ,and their own HQ being attacked shows the pathetic security situation in the country.These were the same terrorists created by pakistan to spread islamic terror.The main concern is the safety of the nukes which could easily fall into taliban hands.

Posted by Anshu | Report as abusive

Militant leader who led attack on Pakistan Army base is one of many defectors

Similarly, many other army officers are quitting army to join militants!

“At least six army officers — including some of the ranks of colonel and major — were arrested a few years ago for their alleged links with al-Qaeda and other militant groups.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/wo rld/asia/article6870279.ece

Posted by Sameer | Report as abusive

It’s getting funny in Pakistan!

India was arming militants in Balochistan: Malik

I have no proof of India in Balochistan: Qureshi

http://dailymailnews.com/1001/12/FrontPa ge/FrontPage6.php

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India to build agriculture varsity in Kabul!

India will build an agriculture university in Kabul while Kazakhstan has promised 1,000 scholarships for students, an official said

http://www.sananews.com.pk/english/2009/ 10/12/india-to-build-agriculture-varsity -in-kabul/

Posted by Sam | Report as abusive

GW: “Singh, what have you been smoking? I thought you were a pretty smart and insightful kind of guy, then you say something that originate from the other end of the universe. Khalistani movement was fueled and supported by Pakistan. You need to get old outdated Khalistani lies and propaganda removed from your head.”

GW,

Please see the reference below. Sanjay Gandhi had vested interest in bringing down Darbara Singh in Punjab. He and Zail Singh propped up Bhindranwale who was a small guy before that. He just went out of their control. Indira Gandhi and her son Sanjay Gandhi began to burn India. They had little value for the democratic institution. Had they continued, it is India that would be burning now. Fortunately for us, the evil leaders died a timely death. Khalistan movement had begun in the late 1960s with Longowal and Chauhan demanding a separate home land for the Sikhs. Pakistan loved it and helped the Khalistani militants with weapons and training. I am not disputing that. But Khalistan movement was not started by Pakistan. It simply exploited the situation in India, just like India did in East Pakistan. Sanjay Gandhi was India’s worst enemy, followed by his mother Indira Gandhi. They also encouraged Tamil separatists in Sri Lanka in 1983. India learnt its lessons and has moved on along the right path. I advocate the same for Pakistan. Give up insurgency and work towards national progress.

http://books.google.com/books?id=5sVkpsi d3lkC&pg=PA254&lpg=PA254&dq=Who+helped+B hindranwale&source=bl&ots=KbvPXJ9rXL&sig =Jo5jXAleqJE8nn7AfVa3WbRe-pM&hl=en&ei=7l LSSpTIMoz8sQPe5qzwCw&sa=X&oi=book_result &ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CBsQ6AEwBQ#v=on epage&q=Who%20helped%20Bhindranwale&f=fa lse

There is a whole book written by MJ Akbar, “India the Siege Within” which talks about how politicians in India were setting up flames in different states to destabilize local governments so that they could dismiss them and bring on governor’s rule. This was a standard technique that Indira Gandhi used over and over again until it exploded on her face. Pakistan is facing the same thing now. You reap what you sow.

I am not anti-Indian for telling the truth.

Even the Chinese are waiting for Pak Army in Wazaristan!

“Yousaf is a foreign jihadi from China, one of a small army who have flocked from across the Islamic world”

Yousaf, who is a member of the Uighur Muslim minority in China, had travelled hundreds of miles from the Chinese city of Kashgar to learn how to fight jihad.

Yousaf, who would only give his first name, left his homeland because he believes the Chinese are occupiers.. He left years ago, his anger driving him all the way to Waziristan for military training, and now an imminent battle with Pakistani soldiers.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6292448/ In-the-Pakistani-mountains-of–Waziristan -young-jihadis-wait-for-martyrdom.html

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“..they want to blackmail the Americans to get sympathy and money.”

“If the government wanted to get rid of all the Taliban from Waziristan it would be easy,” said Dilnawaz Khan, a soldier who served in the Frontier Corps for 18 years before retiring to run a tea stall in the city of Bannu.

“The officials have double standards. They don’t really want to crush these Taliban or so-called terrorists because they want to blackmail the Americans to get sympathy and money.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6292448/ In-the-Pakistani-mountains-of–Waziristan -young-jihadis-wait-for-martyrdom.html

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Pakistan army still negotiating PEACE DEALS with two Taliban factions!

In its fight against the Mehsud Taliban, peace deals with other Taliban factions will help improve the army’s chances by sidelining what Pakistani officials consider less dangerous elements of the Taliban, these officials say.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB12552362 6540678471.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLETopSto ries#project%3DAFGHANISTAN-PAKISTAN-HOTS POTS09%26articleTabs%3Darticle

Posted by Soman | Report as abusive

It could but also not because the news agencies report different. Some wrote aboout “group of militants” while others are reporting about “militants”.

In Rawalpindi a group of 8 militants attacked the military HQ. Elsewhere,bomb and suicide attacks took place in the last two months. But to me they all are no reasons to conclude that militants are uniting

Ruud, the Netherlands

Posted by Ruud | Report as abusive

It could but also not because the news agencies report different. Some wrote aboout \”group of militants\” while others are reporting about \”militants\”.

In Rawalpindi a group of 8 militants attacked the military HQ. Elsewhere,bomb and suicide attacks took place in the last two months. But to me they all are no reasons to conclude that militants are uniting. I need names of these groups before I can give any answer.

Ruud, the Netherlands

Posted by Ruud Wedding | Report as abusive

Pakistan army still negotiating PEACE DEALS with two Taliban factions!
- Posted by Soman

Cowards .. perpetual cowards!
No wonder everybody beats these cowards pants down!

Posted by John | Report as abusive

Pakistan is being cut to pieces with its own axe, these Taliban were trained and armed by the Pakistan’s ISI to spread havoc in Afghanistan.
I am glad they are turning against the army which funded their activities and trainings.

Posted by Siddiq | Report as abusive

I am glad they are turning against the army which funded their activities and trainings.
- Posted by Siddiq

Common civilians in Afghanistan, Pakistan, India are targeted by Talibans and Army. That disturbs us all! I would be glad if it was a war between Talibans and ISI, who created Talibans!

Just noticed on BBC, another 41 people are killed by Talibans in SWAT, while Army is negotiating peace deals with two Taliban groups!

Pakistan army/ISI have made the Indian sub-continent a very dangerous place! That is why small, immature, jealous groups shouldn’t be given a country. The whole Pakistan creation process is a disaster, from beginning to end!

Posted by John | Report as abusive

Kayani & anti us groups manage to fire Pakistan’s ambassdor to USA for his role in pushing the Kerry Luger bill.

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn -content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/13+p akistan+ambassador+in+us+to+be+replaced- za-02

Let me paraphrase “Are Pakistan’s militant groups uniting?”

Posted by indian1127 | Report as abusive

@Kp Singh, thanks for clarification.

“I am not anti-Indian for telling the truth.
- Posted by kp singh ”

–>Thank God Gandhi days are gone.

Posted by GW | Report as abusive

@Myra,

Myra, I think one thing that has not bee contemplated. It is starting to show that the Pakistan Army is actually quite weak within their own country. I see a tipping point where Pak Army and security agencies are unable, or incapable of quelling all the terrorist uprisings. I see the making of an all out war within Pakistan itself, if the Militants had the audacity to pull off an assault on the HQ of the Pak Army, just imagine what ego boost they got, taking on the establishment. They (the militants) needed to make a style statement and they did pull it off.

Which direction are things going to go now? The U.S. is considering Droning Balochistan and the Quetta Shura, once that is completed, is the U.S. prepared to push further perhaps to Punjab province, into south punjab? How many Pakistani’s is the Pak Army willing to sacrifice before they open their eyes and all face in one direction, towards Punjab province? Either they or the U.S. will have to eliminate the Punjabi militants. If they don’t, even the punjabi militants will start to attack Pak Army, ISI, and the police. Is Pakistan willing to destroy the punjabi militants, to maintain national integrity? What will Pakistan do, if the U.S. decides to Drone punjab, when Pakistan is unwilling to deal with the Punjab militants.

I think we can all finally agree the time for talking and making so-called truces and peace deals with Islamic Militants is over and a waste of time for us and they use that time to rest, regroup and inflict more carnage.

I think to help Pakistani Army, the U.S. should make plans to Drone Punjab. The last military seige on Pak HQ, just shows that Pak Army is incapable of even protecting itself, let alone the people or even successfully engaging the Taliban head on.

We are still asking, why are there still so many Pak soldiers on the front with India? Those Pak soldiers sit idle, while, their collegues are getting butchered by militants.

India is not the threat. This is a great time for Pakistan to make peace with India and change its policy of keeping India in a “softened” state. Pakistan should not blow it. If Pak army is unwilling to re-assign much more larger resources from Kashmir to Quetta, they the U.S. should declare a unilateral open house Droning Policy towards Pakistan.

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“It is just a matter of time before pakistan completely fails.The army is the most powerfull institution in pakistan ,and their own HQ being attacked shows the pathetic security situation in the country.These were the same terrorists created by pakistan to spread islamic terror.The main concern is the safety of the nukes which could easily fall into taliban hands.
- Posted by Anshu ”

–>My concern is the same. If Pak Army can’t even protect itself, how fiercely is it will to fight to protect the nukes? Some may argue that Pak Army will fight tooth and nail to protect the nukes. Then why is Pak Army not fighting tooth and nail to wipe out all militants on its soil, with its 700,000 Army?

It is starting to show that PA is quite weak from within. The U.S. needs to safeguard the interests of the world and draw up plans to rescue Pak Nukes from Taliban and AQ.

Some also fear that if Pakistan Army command collapses that Rogue PA officers, in bed with AQ, the Taliban and Kashmiri Militants will take over and perhaps fire them on India, in a last ditch swipe of “if we can’t survive
then we won’t let our neighbour survive either”…..

Posted by GW | Report as abusive

Nothing changed between Musharraf and Zardari!

Still Army/ISI control Pakistan. Army only uses Zardari for begging trips abroad!

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Pakistan: The Next Nuclear Nightmare?

If the Taliban can get into army headquarters, where else might it strike next?

http://www.brookings.edu/opinions/2009/1 012_pakistan_riedel.aspx

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Is Obama going to support the army or Zardari?

Good that the fake democracy is unraveling fast!

Pakistan ambassador in US to be replaced in 48 hours
http://www.onlinenews.com.pk/details.php  ?id=153582

Private TV Channel quoted well informed official sources as saying country‘s Ambassador to US would be appointed as Spokesman Presidency

What happened to Ambassador’s wife? She was the spokeswoman for Zardari? Both husband and wife going to share the same job and salary?

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Aides ask Zardari to get rid of Kayani
http://despardes.com/?p=9861

“Zardari had been a strong advocate of the bill, the Army Chief together with other senior Generals had rejected it saying it contained insulting clauses and was against the country’s sovereignty”

It’s interesting to watch, who preempts who!

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Next on terror hit list: Pak’s nuke installations

http://blog.taragana.com/n/next-on-terro r-hit-list-paks-nuke-installations-19347 8/

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Kiyani goes for the kill! Zardari next to be exiled again!

Sources told The News that President Asif Ali Zardari, Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and even Defence Minister Ahmed Mukhtar were caught off guard when the media reported the details of the secret meeting between the top leaders of PML-N with General Kayani.

These meetings with the army chief further led to speculations in the Islamabad circles that perhaps the history of 90s was being repeated when the military establishment used the opposition leaders to topple the sitting governments.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_deta il.asp?Id=24945

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“Aides ask Zardari to get rid of Kayani
http://despardes.com/?p=9861

“Zardari had been a strong advocate of the bill, the Army Chief together with other senior Generals had rejected it saying it contained insulting clauses and was against the country’s sovereignty”

It’s interesting to watch, who preempts who!
- Posted by Andy ”

–>While Pak Army and Civilian Govt argues over cash, the Army is under seige and the civilians and being butchered at security checkpoints.

It is high time that Pak Army AND ISI comes under civilian rule and judiciary to make Pakistan into a coherent and more cohesive country.

To us non-Paks, we need to fix Pakistan, whether you are coherent or not. What happens there affects us. Either way, Pakistan must be fixed. It is in the interest of the Pak Army and ISI to surrender control over to Zardari and let the democratic process run Pakistan. The Army needs to step aside and do what the civilian government tells it to do.

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“Kiyani goes for the kill! Zardari next to be exiled again!

Sources told The News that President Asif Ali Zardari, Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and even Defence Minister Ahmed Mukhtar were caught off guard when the media reported the details of the secret meeting between the top leaders of PML-N with General Kayani.

These meetings with the army chief further led to speculations in the Islamabad circles that perhaps the history of 90s was being repeated when the military establishment used the opposition leaders to topple the sitting governments.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_deta il.asp?Id=24945
- Posted by Andy ”

–>It appears that Pakistan is for Punjabistan’s rule only.

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Salute to Fallen warriors;Shaheeds of “OPERATION JANBAZ”

Havildar Isthzar Hussain Shaheed
Havildar Zar Khan Shaheed
Lance Naik Qudrat Ullah Shaheed
Sepoy Rab Nawaz Shaheed
http://www.ispr.gov.pk/front/main.asp?o= t-press_release&id=929

“strategy was adopted as two brave commandos volunteered to come forward to face the terrorists to divert their attention, so that others could storm them. This strategy was said to have worked but not before two valiant commandos knowingly embraced martyrdom so that many others could live.” The News

-As the crisis is brewing, Army chief has informed Zardari that Kerry Luger bill in its current form is a charter of surrender document. Foreign minister Qureshi has been sent to Washington to revisit and take up with US authorities. Ambassador Hussain Haqqani to be replaced in few days according to some reports. Waziristan operation imminent, fresh wave of cowardly desperate attacks across Pakistan to deter the army from a decisive blow to the terrorists.
traitor Haqqani to be replaced with Dr. Maleeha lodhi as ambassador Haqqani, Kerry Luger bill rejected by the Army.
I guess Pakistan Army still calling the shots on vital national matters, some would have assumed an assault on a check post has weakened the Army, think again.

Next on the list will be blackwater mercaneries.

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[...] discussed in this post and in this analysis, the gunmen involved in the Rawalpindi raid came from a nexus of militant [...]

Umair,
What happened to your democracy? Zaradari overruled again!
Is army going to overrun Zrdari?

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Questions about the soundness of the security at the military nerve center were offset by accolades for the commandos who rescued 39 hostages, some of them officers who had sat in a room with a suicide bomber for 20 hours.
-New York Times (13/10/2009)

Umair, looks like you just preached exactly what the aticle above stated.

Foreign minister Qureshi has gone to Washington on a ‘crying’ mission to complain about the KL Bill.

The problem here lies that the Pakistani establishment nor the Pakistani Army will ‘openly’ and ‘honestly’ admit that the terrorists who commited these acts were created and nurtured by their own hands using US aid money. Pakistan can play the victim of its own monster and keep claiming that it is not responsible and needs more aid in order to destroy it. However, the reality is that the Pakistani Army wants to ‘retain’ terrorists against India, while killing those it suspects are against Pakistan.

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It is starting to show that PA is quite weak from within. The U.S. needs to safeguard the interests of the world and draw up plans to rescue Pak Nukes from Taliban and AQ.
-Posted by GW

GW, the US only has to worry that Al Qaeda and the Taliban are not hold the gun at the head of the guy who has his finger on the button. How are Pakistan’s Eat-Grass-To-Build-Nukes going to help them defeat the Taliban, Al Qaeda and other (domestic & foreign) terrorist groups?

You could have an Exocet missile under your bed, but it is completely useless against a few men shooting at your house with AK47 rifles.

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Umair,

Here’s the latest information about another fallen(?) warrior(he also belonged to SSG).

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2 009/10/ilyas_kashmiri_survi.php

Strange that people of Pakistan believe their Army so blindly though the Army/ISI combo is the root cause of the current state of Pakistan.

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GW:

White house seems divide over Afghanistan though. There seems many ideas floating around and some of them include “talking to Taliban” since those who propose these ideas have discovered that Taliban is not a threat to the West and no global agenda and if it is willing to break ties with A-Q, it is OK. These white house thinkers find that it is OK for US to sign papers and have thumb prints of some Taliban and run away and ditch Afghans again.

Read this article in case you did not already:
http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/2009/1 0/13/reasoning-with-the-taliban/

Quote:
“In the past few weeks, as President Barack Obama closes in on a decision about sending more troops to Afghanistan, a couple of alluring ideas have resurfaced in Washington.

“The first is that talks with the Taliban, or with members of the fundamentalist Islamist movement, might be worth pursuing more agressively, to advance the day that U.S. troops could begin to leave.

“The second is the suggestion the Taliban in Afghanistan might be willing to sever its ties to al Qaeda, or that growing Taliban influence there may not directly threaten the United States.”

Luckily “it is an idea that many Afghan experts see as dangerous. Lisa Curtis of the Heritage Foundation described White House distinctions between the Taliban and al Qaeda as a “Shibboleth” and incongruous with the facts on the ground.”

But if US intends to flee, there have many ways to do so.

Posted by rajeev | Report as abusive

15 October
Gunmen attack security targets in Lahore.

10 October
Militants attack the main army headquarters in Rawalpindi – at least 20 dead.

9 October
At least 50 killed in suspected suicide bombing in Peshawar.

5 October
Suicide bomber attacks UN offices in Islamabad killing five.

26 September
At least 16 people killed in two suicide car bombs, in Peshawar and Bannu.
(BBC South Asia News, 15/10/2009)

As for other news from Pakistan:

-Younis Khan resigns as Pakistan captain over match fixing allegations.

-’No change’ to Pakistan aid bill.

Once the South Waziristan assault starts then events will get a lot worst.

Please check out “Pakistani Voices” on BBC South Asia website. It certainly shows the true feelings of ordinary Pakistanis.

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It is clear to me that the US under Obama and its allies have a master plan to divide up our nation and take the nukes out.

Until GW Bush was President, Pakistan did not have any of what it is seeing today. Towards the end of his term, Musharraf was made to make way for BB to step in and form a puppet regime. Taliban saw what was coming. BB as PM would be executing American orders. So they removed her from the scene.

As soon as Obama took over, he changed the whole strategy and called it Af-Pak. Initially they were going to include Kashmir in the equation. But the Indians managed to wriggle themselves out of it by their usual devious means. And the whole Af-Pak has turned into Pak now.

No one knows who is supplying all the ammunition to the Taliban. This is a big mystery, figure it out. We can tell who is behind all this.

The Western plans are clearly obvious. Use the same Divide and Rule policy. Turn Pakistani citizens against each other. Now the Taliban is fighting Pakistani establishment. The plan is to spread the chaos into the hinterlands and then break the back of our military. Once that is done, go after our nukes.

The West made a mistake of using religious radicalism to bring down the Soviet Union. The flames never subsided. Now they are making another big mistake of forcing the flames to spread into Pakistan. This flame will not subside. It has the potential to burn the world.

We will finish the Taliban off, now that we started. But we are not going to get divided. Your plans will not work. I look forward to the day when the last American soldier leave Afghanistan, defeated and frustrated.

The last time a soldier marched out of Afghanistan, the Soviet empire fell. This time the other super power will fall. Do not burn Pakistan. It is the worst thing to do. Give up the Af-Pak plan and work towards a resolution in Kashmir. Go after the Indians. They are real crooks behind all this chaos.

So are these guys still to be characterized as troublemaker’s and miscreants? Or will Pakistan finally take the threat seriously and deal with them as terrorists?

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What is interesting about this spate of attacks is the lack of coverage in the western media. Especially when you compare the coverage of the Mumbai attacks. CNN covered that as though it was happening in New York or LA.

I believe this was because of two reasons:

1) It is now generally accepted that Pakistan is an unstable and chaotic place where terrorist attacks are routine.

2) The presence of foreign nationals (particularly Americans, Brits, Canadians, Aussies, Europeans) in Mumbai attracted global attention to the issue. Pakistan has no such sympathetic audience.

3) Owing to the regular news coverage about how bad the FATA is and about the complicity of the Pakistani military, intelligence and security service in the Taliban insurgency in Afghanistan, there is a perhaps a lack of sympathy in west…a sense that the Paks are getting their due.

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Go after the Indians. They are real crooks behind all this chaos.
Posted by Mohammed Anjum

Well, well. Another pathetic, pointless, untruthful statement just blurted out with no tangible substance to support it by yet another madrassa educated, armchair conspiracy theorist.

I suggest you read ‘The Great Denial” by Nadeem F. Paracha in DAWN.

Here is an extract:
First of all, it is a fact that violence-prone extremism was ironically the creation of the CIA, with patronage provided by Arab petro-dollars and the local intelligence agencies such as the ISI. There is not an iota of doubt about the history of these agencies using the concept of jihad as a calling card to gather fighters for the so-called ‘Afghan jihad’ in the 1980s. A string of radical Islamic scholars were used along with the state-owned media and madressahs to fervently indoctrinate a huge number of young Muslims.

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@ Keith: “What is interesting about this spate of attacks is the lack of coverage in the western media. Especially when you compare the coverage of the Mumbai attacks. CNN covered that as though it was happening in New York or LA”

Americans & westerners stopped looking at Pakistan as a civilized/normal/stable country quite some time ago. Over the last few years, Pakistan has been looked upon as a war-zone just like Afghanistan or Iraq.

@ Mohammad Anjum:
You never have any substantiated facts to speak of, just fictional tales & non-substantive rhetoric which you hear from your establishment’s propaganda machinery. Getting embroiled in conspiracy theories & delusions is not a good idea when your nation is imploding by the second.

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‘Pakistan Attacks Show Tightening of Militant Links’

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/16/world/ asia/16pstan.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&hp

Posted by Mortal | Report as abusive

No:1 University in the world to graduate as a Terrorist.
Geo specializations to choose from Kashmir, India, Chechen, Uyighur, America and those undecided sent to Afghanistan.
Note:- Personal guidance and mentorship from Pak Army part of std package.

Posted by Praveen | Report as abusive

@Mr. Mohammed Anjum,

You seem to keep asserting that Pakistan is to be divided and de-nuked, do you actually realize that this is what will happen, if you keep reinforcing this notion in your mind? Mr. Anjum, please be enlightened enough to know that your life and the things that happen to you are the result of the collective actions and thoughts you have. The dominant thoughts in your mind become real and unfold the events as you keep affirming them.

If you want Pakistan to be divided, please choose which part you will side with and wish to be a part of. All of you Paks are pre-occupied with being victims, you will constantly find a villain and a way to become the victim.

Your Army created the Taliban, not anyone else, your ISI and namely men like Hamid Gul created and trained them. Now the instruments of Hamid Gul, ISI and Pak Army are butchering the same agencies that created them, as well as the people of Pakistan.

The blame of Pakistan lies solely with the north punjabistani elites of Rawalpindi and Islamabad. Most of them wear uniforms or suits, if you look on TV or the news paper, Mr. Anjum, you will know who they are.

You keep reiterating that India has involvement here and Balochistan…are we Indians so good at this sort of thing, that we have left not one shred of evidence behind of collaberation between hindus and muslims?

Please live in the land of reality and truth, not Ahmed Quaraishi’s mental farm conspiracy stories.

Posted by GW | Report as abusive

It is just propaganda against Pakistan. Such a reaction and stories were quite inevitable after attack on Army’s general headquarters. It seems so stupid that terrorist can hit Pakistan’s nuclear assets and installations. Pakistan’s nuclear arsenals are not toy that are scattered on roads so any one can steal or target them. Pakistan has strong control and command system to secure its nuclear assets than many other countries. I could yet remember A B-52 U.S bomber armed with six nuclear warheads and flown for more than three hours across several states. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton has already said that there is no threat of Pakistan’s nukes falling in hands of extremists. We have confidence in the Pakistani government and military’s control over nuclear weapons. British Foreign Secretary David Miliband, speaking to reporters alongside Clinton, said that although Pakistan faces a “mortal threat” from extremists, there is no danger of its nuclear weapons being compromised.It is just a propaganda and part of attempts to de-nuclearize Pakistan.

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@No one knows who is supplying all the ammunition to the Taliban. This is a big mystery, figure it out. We can tell who is behind all this.”
- Posted by Mohammed Anjum

Mohammed Anjum: You were a toddler when India was getting the terrrorism attack everyday and you 40Km away have no idea what was brewing in Amritsar. So enjoy it until itv lasts and you will get a lot considering your attitude.

Posted by rajeev | Report as abusive

Mr. Shehla said:

“I could yet remember A B-52 U.S bomber armed with six nuclear warheads and flown for more than three hours across several states. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton has already said that there is no threat of Pakistan’s nukes falling in hands of extremists. We have confidence in the Pakistani government and military’s control over nuclear weapons. British Foreign Secretary David Miliband, speaking to reporters alongside Clinton, said that although Pakistan faces a “mortal threat” from extremists, there is no danger of its nuclear weapons being compromised.It is just a propaganda and part of attempts to de-nuclearize Pakistan.”

–>First of all, I think that the B-52 with nuclear warheads was not an accident, I personally believe that the “accidental” flyover was in fact a thinly veiled style statement from the U.S. against China over the Taiwan issue.

Next, sure the Taliban may not be able to use the nukes, if they ever came to power, but just the idea of a morally bankrupt and irresponsible state like Pakistan even having nukes, in the wake of their sponsoring terrorist groups and complacency in fighting the Taliban until now, makes the world angry that such a screwed up country is even tolerated to have nukes, I think that is the issue here.

If civilian governments and army are so corrupt there, what if these weaknesses are one day politically exploited by an extreme right wing faction that comes to power one day and has the political sympathy of the Pak Army to escalate terrorism upon India and doing so, because they are emboldened that they do not have to suffer retribution because they have nukes?

This is why the world wants to denuclearize Pakistan. You do not need nukes against anybody, they have not served you. I think since Kargil, we can all agree that war is not a good option for Pakistan and India to settle their differences. They have to reach consensus on a philosophy of peaceful neighborly existence and Pakistani’ nukes only complicate the issue severely for two main reasons: they are a magnet for the militants, politically speaking, and an artificial heel to embolden the Pak Army to misbehave and indulge in unprovoked misadventures with India, for the Army’s own self-serving selfish motives and business model and believe that they don’t have to suffer blowback or consequences.

India has nukes as a deterrent against China. India does not need nukes against Pakistan and historically has never started the fight first. India has only fought Pakistan over a defensive posture, we never agressed first, please take note of that. Everytime you attacked us, you got weaker and lost.

Indians do not want to hurt Pakistan, we don’t want your land and we do not want to conquer your country, you can keep it, you have nothing we want from you. You Pakistani’s must develop a more broader, moderate outlook on your national identity, outside a context of partition and hatred against others.

Pakistani’s please remember, Pakistan has nothing that India wants, you can keep your country. We ask you to think and act responsibly and honestly and always tell the truth. Telling the truth is one of the highest ideals of the Koran and truth telling is abscent in Pakistan, it is instead replaced with fables, conspiracy stories, lies and half-truths which are politically and religiously slanted to keep the public polarized as a tool of national unity.

We hope you Pakistani’s realize that when there are terrorist attacks Globally, originating from your country, we don’t feel you should be privileged to have nukes. Are we supposed to jump for joy that you are nuclear, while your state agencies train terrorists against India and terrorist attacks are planned on your soil? This is not a conspiracy, this just shows that Pakistan is lawless and nobody wants a lawless country to have nukes and that is a plain and simple concept that any sensible Pakistani should easily grasp.

Posted by GW | Report as abusive

Alas U all people sit in your offices and talk about pakistan and kind of insurgency their.

But you forget that, these were british and Nehru who put the

first(1) phase of clash by not solving the Kashmir issue [thus resulting in first kashmir war 1948]

secondly(2) it was india who waged wars against pakistan and divide pakistan and made people angry

thirdly(3) it was america who in 1980′s trained the militia in pakistan to defeat russians.

fourthly(4) western powers and specially india not want pakistan to be peaceful because pakistan can be a ease and safe passage for chinese products to international market.

Basically Uo people all around pakistan forced the people of this region to become iron-heart, it was your policies that certain people in pakistan are against western powers and india.

Indians and others should specially look into their collar first before condeming pakistan.

Lastly majority of pakistanis are really very keen about certain problems which have been mentioned above and they are trying hard to overcome those problems of militancy and others. But world need to cooperate with pakistan government and not to dictate as by sitting in your offices, you will never be aware the kind of problems and situation in pakistan.

Pakistanis love their country and making correcting measures.

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@secondly(2) it was india who waged wars against pakistan and divide pakistan and made people angry.”
–Posted by Azad

Azad: Is it you? Do you really mean that India waged wars against Pakistan? Which ones?

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[...] call” for Pakistan about the danger posed by militant groups in Punjab. That came last year, with the attack on the headquarters of the Pakistan Army in Rawalpindi. If a raid on the most powerful institution in the country was not enough to create a change of [...]

[...] call” for Pakistan about the danger posed by militant groups in Punjab. That came last year, with the attack on the headquarters of the Pakistan Army in Rawalpindi. If a raid on the most powerful institution in the country was not enough to create a change of [...]

[...] call” for Pakistan about the danger posed by militant groups in Punjab. That came last year, with the attack on the headquarters of the Pakistan Army in Rawalpindi. If a raid on the most powerful institution in the country was not enough to create a change of [...]