Comments on: Pakistan’s South Waziristan operation: defeat or dispersal? http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/11/07/pakistans-south-waziristan-operation-defeat-or-dispersal/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: rex minor http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/11/07/pakistans-south-waziristan-operation-defeat-or-dispersal/comment-page-1/#comment-26132 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:43:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4140#comment-26132 @Mr K,You say that the US is on the verge of starting a pull out from Baghdad. Please be a realistic! Who then is going to defend the US property including the biggest embassy in the middle east? Not to forget the large numbers of boots which the Iraqi have been collecting to throw at visiting US dignatries. Have the withdrawn their forces from Germany Japan and the South Korea? And where would these forces be accomodated in the US, along the border with Canada or Mexico. They do not even have the accomodation for the prisoners in their land. I am sorry When people like you do not want to realize that the American President main headech is to find accomodation or jobs for the large military they have. This is no different than the Pakistani Army. And now the good friend of Mr Bush, Mr Manmohan Singh has let them down by converting its reserve dollars into gold. What a great friend! It serves them right to trust the fakirs of the Indian sub-continent, the Afghans, the Pakistanis and now the Indians. Mr Obama has no other choice but to turn over to the great Chinese leaders. Why not? There is no harm trying them. I hope Mr K I have answered all your questions!! Good bye.

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By: rex minor http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/11/07/pakistans-south-waziristan-operation-defeat-or-dispersal/comment-page-1/#comment-26128 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:57:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4140#comment-26128 @Mr K,Mr Obama slogan was and I quote “Yes,we can”. To me it means that “you can”.He never said that he can. He has already got too much on his plate not to forget the clintonians headed by no other person than hillary clinton. During bush days the real power exercised in the white house was ass igned to the VP. Any idea who is running the show now on the international scene? You have to use the approved US methods of torture to solve this puzzle. In the mean time let us keep our eyes open and follow the new york times, washington Post and the cable net work whose reporters are obtaining the classified info. as in the past by paying lucrative sums to the insiders. Not much different from the govts. in Afghanistan, Pakistan and India. Let us also hope that the two main protogonists, namely India and Pakistan continue their bickering and blame game so that their distructive potential for the world is reduced.

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By: rex minor http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/11/07/pakistans-south-waziristan-operation-defeat-or-dispersal/comment-page-1/#comment-26127 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:41:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4140#comment-26127 @Mr K,you seem to have lots of hopes from the imposters and underrate pushtoons. The UN says Aghanistan is the worst country to be born in! I have different views both Pakistan tribal area and the afgha country are the bust to die in. The Pushtoons/Afghans hve decisively defeated the Brits, the soviets and the American and NATO armies. Every one have to pay to the tribal lords to pass through. Please try it on your next holidays. The Indians are quite used to them, afterall they lived under their raj for centuries. Have a good day.

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By: Keith http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/11/07/pakistans-south-waziristan-operation-defeat-or-dispersal/comment-page-1/#comment-25975 Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:59:20 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4140#comment-25975 Little King,Bush has been out for nearly a year now. Get over it. It’s Obama’s ball game now.The US is on the verge of starting a pull out from Iraq. After that happens, the full focus will be on “AfPak”. This region avoided the spotlight for years because of Bush’s boneheaded rush through Mesopotamia. No longer.Obama is rightfully doing what Bush should have done. A full and thorough review of the AfPak problem. And I have no doubt that the solution he picks will have massive long term implications for Pakistan. Unfortunately, its a situation of their own making. For 60 years, they’ve avoided investing and developing the tribal areas. They’ve written off these people as ‘savages’. You really should hear how some Pakistanis talk about them. The area has become the epicentre of global jihad and a security threat to virtually everybody. One way or another, Obama will contain the threat. Either he’ll commit to a tougher stance in Afghanistan and demand a lot more from Pakistan. Or he will withdraw from Afghanistan and take a much, much tougher stance on Pakistan (visa restrictions, sanctions, no aid, declaration as a state sponsor of terrorism). Neither option is going to be good for Islamabad. Far better for Islamabad to be active and deal with Waziristan on their own before the US gets around to it.

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By: rex minor http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/11/07/pakistans-south-waziristan-operation-defeat-or-dispersal/comment-page-1/#comment-25953 Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:22:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4140#comment-25953 We are fast approaching the year end, and people around the world would be celebrating the holiday period and the year year. Let me tell you a short story. Once upon a time a lad was raised in an american family, taught all the decent things the americans know of, including the daily/weekly chorus of putting the garbage bin outside the house for garbage collectors. Like many others the family made progress and were even able to sent this lad along with his brothers to college. The family acquired lots of wealth and were even in a position to support this lad avoid the military service.This overprortion support made this lad alcohalic and a good for nothing in the society. The family recipe was to support him take the governership of the adopted state. One gloomy day for the good world he became the President of the country although the vote count was faulty and total was manupalated.(I am not referring to the Afghan election, knowing that dr abdullah is currently in Florida with his grievences about the fraud committed in his country.)His father even organised a bunch of loyal and experienced officers to assist this lad, who considered himself of age now, to run the country. Ofcourse since the lad was a grown up adult now and was ├íssumed to be alkohal free, he was allowed to keep the task forc himself the decision authority.Now became the interesting time for this grown up lad to do anything he had wished or dreamt of during his childhood.He dug out his favourite books from the attic, whicht he had read during his school days such as Smoking Gun, Billy the kid, How the west was won and indians were eliminated etc. etc. He even told his Dad that the war camaign in Iraq was left incomplete. He suddenly wanted to become the greatest war President,C in Chief of the military, every President in the USA is proud of this title, something unique in the civilised democracies. He needed some spirtual support and promptly got it from his own church leaders. He asked his administration to identify the “axis of evil” countries so that he is able to talk to God and receive blessings before punishing the culprits. He offered heavy rewards against the terrorist with the slogan ” Dead or Allive” frequently used by his ancesters during wild west days. We all know the events of the past decade and irts affects on the world.One would need several decades and very decent leaders around the world to clear up the “sh” this notorious man has left behind. Mr Obama with his clintonian administration is not enough. The wisdom is likely to come from the east, but right now they also in turmoil. As a guest I have only one request, please try not to use the obscene and aggressive vocublary which has been often spoken in North America over the past several decades. My appeal is particularly for the North American and European participants and bloggers of this otherwise excellent home. Please at least try it. I always feel very sorry after using unwarranted words.I am not a racist, though find many cultures and traditions which I find foreign.

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By: Legal Eagle http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/11/07/pakistans-south-waziristan-operation-defeat-or-dispersal/comment-page-1/#comment-25765 Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:43:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4140#comment-25765 Pakistan army is only qualified to suppress and dominate the ordinary citizens which it has done for the past fifty years. Who created Taliban and Al Qaida ? The answer is open; Pak Army, US and Saudi Arabia all have been involved to grind their own axes; Pak Army to find strategic depth against India, US to back the fight against Communist Russia and Saudis to promote their own version of Islam and beat Iran in Afghanistan. End result: a franstein’s monster that threatens its makers and Pakistan being the governance mess it has been, is the easiest target.Radicalism is a mindset, the more you use force, the worse it gets. The only solution is a welfarist government and proper educational system. If people are protected by the government, have a say in its functioning and hold it acountable and people receive education showing them right from wrong and above all, show them that there is bright future for them ahead and suicide bombing is illegal even under Islam, that can probably turn the tide.Otherwise, I am convinced that this could be a very long, bloody struggle in which Pakistan and Pakistanis will suffer the most; much worse than Afghanistan which has a far smaller population and far less to lose.

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By: Mortal http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/11/07/pakistans-south-waziristan-operation-defeat-or-dispersal/comment-page-1/#comment-25676 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:48:37 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4140#comment-25676 “The purpose of the operation as I perceive was to eliminate those militants which were backed by RAW, CIA and KHAD” – Posted by AishaaYou’re echoing the sentiments of many of your fellow Pakistanis on this blog, who’ve made similar statements before you but failed to provide any legitimate, verifiable & independent source for these claims, when asked to. The question is, can you succeed, where they have, so miserably failed?And when I say a legitimate source, I don’t mean a Retired Pakistani General or a Pakistani ‘defense analyst’. As a side-note, it seems that the only qualification needed to be a ‘defense analyst’ in Pakistan these days, is being unemployed.

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By: Sama http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/11/07/pakistans-south-waziristan-operation-defeat-or-dispersal/comment-page-1/#comment-25609 Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:07:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4140#comment-25609 “There is no doubt that our Army can wipe out terrorism (foreign sponsored) from South Wazirastan in few days to come. Now there is a need that our political leadership should come forward and start dialogue at point of strength with our tribal leaders in the area for a lasting peace.”Are you serious?? Our army is not going to be able to wipe out terrorism. NOt for a long long time. These people are here to stay, I dont know who sent them, maybe we created them ourselves. But the fact remains that our government hasnt really provided for anyone. The private schools and universities are the only places providing education worth having.Same goes for other institutions. But that doesnt mean that we pick up bombs and destroy our own country. So why these people are doing what theyre doing is a mystery to me. For those who argue its India, its a little hard for me to believe. I mean they’re the next super power. Why would they want to destroy Pakistan? We are no competition. There are some that say they never really accepted partition, to that I say they’ve done well for themselves. They dont need a small piece of land.. So who is doing this and why??Bulletfish – I dont know where you’re from. But your opinion of Pakistanis doesnt make an iota of a difference. And if you dont care about loss of human life after reading the comments of a few, then you have issues.

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By: KP Singh http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/11/07/pakistans-south-waziristan-operation-defeat-or-dispersal/comment-page-1/#comment-25608 Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:00:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4140#comment-25608 Aishaa you write:”I did not add the name of Mossad intentionally as they are mending ways with Pakistan and Pakistan too with them. Especially in the years of Pervez Musharraf as President of Pakistan.That process still continues.”Interesting. Could you shed more light on the details? In what tasks did Mossad work with Pakistan? And how is this “understanding” developing? As far as I know, India has been working with Israel in countering terrorism.Also, I’d like you to shed some light on RAW involvement with specific examples that can be referenced to some authentic source. We all know about the CIA. Please do not quote Rehman Malik who is becoming a clown as days go by.

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By: Keith http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/11/07/pakistans-south-waziristan-operation-defeat-or-dispersal/comment-page-1/#comment-25606 Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:41:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4140#comment-25606 The purpose of the operation as I perceive was to eliminate those militants which were backed by RAW, CIA and KHAD.-Posted by AishaaCan you provide any unbiased, independent (preferably non-Pakistani) sources to corroborate your assertions that these militants are backed by all these foreign organizations?Seems to stretch logic a bit that the CIA would be attempt to destabilize Pakistan while the State department pumps in billions. Can you explain how and why that would happen?

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