Comments on: Pakistan and Afghanistan:how do al Qaeda and the Taliban respond? http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/12/07/pakistan-and-afghanistanhow-do-al-qaeda-and-the-taliban-respond/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: SunilKumar http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/12/07/pakistan-and-afghanistanhow-do-al-qaeda-and-the-taliban-respond/comment-page-1/#comment-27011 Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:18:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4308#comment-27011 Basically you forget the influence of Pakistani army on Taliban and AL Quaeda. It is the Pakistani army which is on birthday wishing terms with the US army generals and Pentagon. Pakistani army is armed well by USA and has been taught all professional tactics by US army. And thats why there is so much hurt in USA. When the duplicity of Pakistan of being freinds with USA on the one hand and then being a consultants to the taliban at the same time is an outrage.
Taliban and AlQueda cannot survive without active participation of elements in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. All responses and strategies of Taliban/ AL quaeda are made in consultaions with experienced Pakistani supporters and rich Saudi Arabia wahabbi promoters.

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By: RajeevK http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/12/07/pakistan-and-afghanistanhow-do-al-qaeda-and-the-taliban-respond/comment-page-1/#comment-26972 Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:22:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4308#comment-26972 Rather than addessing issues in a haphazard manner, there is a need to have a systematic blog raising pertinent question which are relevant to the more bigger picture than asking small questions (which in big picture may be useless). Some of the important questions are (some of these have been addressed, not all and the questions to be asked have to be direct) for a valuable article that serves as the source of good discussion.

It will be useful to ask:
1) why US/NATO/ISAF they came here to fight—the original reason of “smoke-OBL-out” and their hosts Afghan-Taliban of Mullah Omar, mentored by ISI.
2) who were their friends and foes when they came here?
3) Are there any changes in the original goals? If yes, what are the changes and why. Will catching OBL make exit faster and why so?
4) Any counterproductive moves—Iraq is the big one that comes to mind–any other such blunders.
5) Who are the beneficiaries of the this mission: Only West or the region also. Is West more secure and region more stable.
6) Why there is terrorism and insurgency?
7) If it exists because US is here can it go away without US leaving.
8) Can COIN match the determination and unlimited recruitment, unlimited money from “Allah-knows from where”.
9) which are the regional countries that have interests in Afghanistan. Are their interests served now and will they be served after US/NATO/ISAF-exit?
10) How would Pakistan after failed US/NATO/ISAF mission look like, taking into view they created Af-Tal and they are the most reluctant on eliminating this.
11) Will Afghanistan and Afghans benefit from this mission?

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By: pakistan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/12/07/pakistan-and-afghanistanhow-do-al-qaeda-and-the-taliban-respond/comment-page-1/#comment-26970 Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:15:51 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4308#comment-26970 i cannot comment since I do not know what is an islamist or an islamic militants?

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By: neoavatara http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/12/07/pakistan-and-afghanistanhow-do-al-qaeda-and-the-taliban-respond/comment-page-1/#comment-26968 Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:12:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4308#comment-26968 The question is, does anyone believe that the U.S. really believes in victory in Afghanistan? Even americans don’t believe their president wants victory. Why would the Taliban or Pakistanis feel any different?
http://neoavatara.com/blog/?p=9017

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By: Sameet http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/12/07/pakistan-and-afghanistanhow-do-al-qaeda-and-the-taliban-respond/comment-page-1/#comment-26966 Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:44:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4308#comment-26966 @Magic786
“When we have the same enemy, why cant the other side realise that.”—This is not entirely true. LET is an enemy of India, and if it was your enemy you would make sure that there is not a single shed in a certain place in Muridke. Instead pak fauj generals go there to instruct in covert warfare. So you realise that we do not have the same enemy.

“As many Indians say what you sow you reap. I would be carefull what you are doing now cos it might just come back to haunt you”—Yes it might haunt us, or it might not. Iranians play the game with Iraqi shias, US did it with Nicaraguan Contras, and Indians can play that in Baluch and Fata. Indians have already played that game with the Northern Alliance in the 1990s, and unlike Pakistanis, we wont have crazed tajiks and uzbeks running around India with a AK in their hands—in other words, we wont get carried away with our games as Pakistani generals did!

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By: Magic786 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/12/07/pakistan-and-afghanistanhow-do-al-qaeda-and-the-taliban-respond/comment-page-1/#comment-26964 Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:59:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4308#comment-26964 Tushar..

Can we at least stick to the topic in hand please as useuall with our idiot neighours use any forum to defame Pakistan. Let me tell you, indians should be thankful that we Pakistan are buffer zone between India-Afghanistan or else you will be and have been the target of terroprism not one Bombay, infact one veryday as it is in Pakistan now. I can say with confidence most indian deep inside are happy at the situation with bombings in Pakistan another story if they want to admit it or not but by reading the bloggs its very clear.

When we have the same enemy, why cant the other side realise that. Rather than typical Indian rants, terrorist state, sponsors, bankcorupt etc. Well let me tell you all countries use terror, what was USA doing SHOCK N AWE in Baghdad and Israilis in Gaza Indians in Kashmir Serbs in Kosovo and Russians in Chechnya. But on the other hand they say they are beacon of light my foot!

Indians do not need to telll us, whats wrong or right as we are quite capeable of knowing the faults and will try to put it right. If you cant help us and at least keep your noses clean rather than using the pretext of building Afghanistan but you are using it to support anti Pakistan elements quite clearly.

As many Indians say what you sow you reap. I would be carefull what you are doing now cos it might just come back to haunt you. Maybe it will be too late to look at Pakistan for co-operation.

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By: DaraIndia http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/12/07/pakistan-and-afghanistanhow-do-al-qaeda-and-the-taliban-respond/comment-page-1/#comment-26963 Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:45:12 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4308#comment-26963 “Unlike Obama’s strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan discussed ad nauseum in the media, the gameplan of the Islamist militants is much more obscure.”

Isn;t this how it should be. You don’t need to make your war plans public knowledge. The Taliban has all the knowledge it needs to plan its strategy including the time span it needs to cover in the short term. Very similar to all the time they had to prepare for the recent Pakistan Army’s much publicised offensive. Isn’t there a lesson here.

Even so, I am almost certain that the US war planners do not take the Taliban as lightly as the media. It is thoroughly professional and battle experienced. I am not too sure of its intelligence capability though in that region. I think human intelligence in the area is absolutely essential and the Taliban are way ahead of them there. That could make all the difference.

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By: tushar0123 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2009/12/07/pakistan-and-afghanistanhow-do-al-qaeda-and-the-taliban-respond/comment-page-1/#comment-26959 Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:29:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4308#comment-26959 Folks… Just read the article:

http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?age =2009128story_8-12-2009_pg3_5

This is how Pakistanis are taught to hate Indians from a very early age!!

No wonder they are in a mess… as they cannot even identify their true enemy (Read: Taliban)…..

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