Comments on: U.S. policy confusion on Pakistan and India http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/01/24/u-s-policy-confusion-on-pakistan-and-india/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Agni http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/01/24/u-s-policy-confusion-on-pakistan-and-india/comment-page-1/#comment-27506 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:39:21 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4593#comment-27506 The biggest problem with any supposed attempts for a dialog between India and Pakistan by anyone (India, Pakistan, Kashmiri leaders, US) is that Pakistani military / ISI is not held accountable. It is Pakistani military / ISI that is in (most) control in Pakistan, and it gains tremendously from keeping animosity with India alive. I hope all parties involved get this (which they likely do), and more importantly, start acting upon it. Shying away from engaging in talks or curtailing the power of the Pakistani military / ISI will not get anyone anywhere on Indo-Pak peace, no matter what the intentions are.

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By: IndiaFirstHand http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/01/24/u-s-policy-confusion-on-pakistan-and-india/comment-page-1/#comment-27485 Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:56:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4593#comment-27485 The problem is that all the three countries mentioned (US, Pakistan and India) do not have a clear cut policy towards Afghanistan. Afghanistan continues to be a pawn and suffers as a consequence of it. From an Afghani stand point the best thing that could happen is for all the three countries to pack up and leave along with their friends. But unfortunately this is not going to happen.

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By: Appus http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/01/24/u-s-policy-confusion-on-pakistan-and-india/comment-page-1/#comment-27462 Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:17:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4593#comment-27462 I totally disagree with the view that Gates visit to India was a disaster. Actually it reminded all those involved, including Pakistan, the danger of heading into a war could be catastrophic for all parties involved. To India, things are reiterated, an incident may happen but do not jump straight with arms. It was a kind of words, preparing the Indian political leadership about a definite possibility and asking for a measured response rather than something on impulse or emotions. I think he was mentally preparing the world about such a risk.

To the Americans, I can only sensibly think an immediate exit strategy from Afganistan. They failed and it is as simple as that. Next thing they can do is to make an exit without losing face. When they leave there is a real risk of Taliban uprising. In all their solutions they have to see Afghanistan and Pakistan as brothers. A solution differentiating these two will not work. They are inter-linked, so tied up that I would treat them as a single state.

I would suggest dismantle the Pakistan Nuclear establishment for the safety of the world and let the Mullahs rule both states. But contain them in these shells. Only covert operations can bear success with these brainless fanatics. Degrade the diplomatic status of both countries to avoid other 9/11s.

The trouble with Muslim countries in the world is that they cannot co-exist peacefully. They fight for one reason or another. Their history is best showcase. They won’t grow beyond certain limits. As far as Arab domination in Muslim world prevails things won’t change. But if countries like Indonesia or Malaysia take the lead, things may improve. This line of thinking can make a better tolerant Muslim society and if Americans can make it, at least some of afghan mullahs will be history!

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By: Indo-European http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/01/24/u-s-policy-confusion-on-pakistan-and-india/comment-page-1/#comment-27461 Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:54:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4593#comment-27461 The Americans it seems haven’t understood anything in India-Pakistan or nature as such. When you put a fire at your neigbour’s house, the fire is bound to reach you too!

This happened with 9/11 & Alquaeda, the so called anglo-american gift coming back to roost.

Why can’t we human beings live in peace without these short term commercial & political interests.

Why can’t we have an organisation which can enforce law in lawless and dummy states like Pakistan ?

Pakistan is a really toilet nation with a beggar bowl all the time!

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By: KPSingh01 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/01/24/u-s-policy-confusion-on-pakistan-and-india/comment-page-1/#comment-27456 Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:51:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4593#comment-27456 Umair writes: “Unless the US treats India and Pakistan equally, Pakistan will not fulfill any American demands which are undue”

Pakistan cannot equal India from every angle. Pakistan compares in population to Bangladesh and both are off shoots from the same country. So may be Pakistan should be treated equally with Bangladesh. In the past Pakistanis saw themselves superior to India. Now they are talking of equality. That is progress in the right direction. Once the reality dawns on them that they are in fact comparable to Iran or Bangladesh, they will stop and start looking at building their nation to match up with those countries. May be the US should start telling this to the Pakistanis. They have pampered Pakistan’s generals for too long and it has made Pakistanis too arrogant. Truth must be told at some point. Pakistan does not equal China. India can be compared to China. Therefore Pakistan cannot equal India. First this belief has to be broken. Only then things have any chance of improvement between the two neighbors. If Pakistan is so strong with its nukes, how come it caved in when told that it will be sent back to stone age by the US in 2001? Get off the high ground first and take a good look at yourself.

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By: RajeevK http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/01/24/u-s-policy-confusion-on-pakistan-and-india/comment-page-1/#comment-27454 Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:47:54 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4593#comment-27454 Correction: Indian military did NOT TAKE over when there was emergency in India’ so forget now.

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By: DaraIndia http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/01/24/u-s-policy-confusion-on-pakistan-and-india/comment-page-1/#comment-27452 Tue, 26 Jan 2010 06:33:02 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4593#comment-27452 ” Cool heads should prevail on both sides of the border.”

I tend to agree with that statement Umair, with emphasis on ‘both’. So far it seems only one side is showing restraint.

“Robert Gates is the US defense secretary and the corporate defense industry in US needs to sell multimillion dollar weapons to India to make money.”

Considering that the US keeps supplying arms to Pakistan, either by way of aid or at concessional rates, they need desperately to make money somehow.

“Unless the US treats India and Pakistan equally, Pakistan will not fulfill any American demands which are undue”

60 years down the road it is about time Pakistan got over its India phobia. Someone wrote recently about Pakistan’s bluff/blackmail over support for the war on terror. This is as good an example as any.

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By: RajeevK http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/01/24/u-s-policy-confusion-on-pakistan-and-india/comment-page-1/#comment-27450 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:50:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4593#comment-27450 Umairpk:

@The notion that in the event of another Mumbai-2008 style attack on India, India’s patient will be thin and India will retaliate against Pakistan is an utter non-sense. With both countries possessing nuclear weapons and missile systems, any future conflict will be extremely dangerous. Cool heads should prevail on both sides of the border.”
–You got the crux of the matter after a long time. But given this background, Pakistan should not worry at all. If one is not prone to hot statements from India, it is clear that Indian military is under the control of Indian politicians. So no worries on that account. Indian military did took over when there was emergency in India’ so forget now. Talking about “Cool heads should prevail on both sides of the border”, you have seen the behavior of both Congress and BJP, they become responsible when given power.

@Unless the US treats India and Pakistan equally, Pakistan will not fulfill any American demands which are undue.”
–Umair, I have not seen anyone getting respect by begging.

@Otherwise, US can always turn to India for help, let me see how many thousands of Indian soldiers can fight and die in the so-called ‘war- on (t)error’.”
–I am not Indian PM but you are right, India should not fight the so-called ‘war- on (t)error’. This is Pakistan and West’s problem and India will deal with it from as far as possible. Reason is simple, India has its own terrorism to solve—the one which Pakistan is unready to touch—and is not going to fight for the West or for Pakistan.

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By: Umairpk http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/01/24/u-s-policy-confusion-on-pakistan-and-india/comment-page-1/#comment-27449 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:30:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4593#comment-27449 The notion that in the event of another Mumbai-2008 style attack on India, India’s patient will be thin and India will retaliate against Pakistan is an utter non-sense. With both countries possessing nuclear weapons and missile systems, any future conflict will be extremely dangerous. Cool heads should prevail on both sides of the border.
Robert Gates is the US defense secretary and the corporate defense industry in US needs to sell multimillion dollar weapons to India to make money. How can that happen? by simply stoking tensions between India and Pakistan. That is what Robert Gates is doing, and he has been told bluntly by Pakistani military leaders. No more military ops in tribal regions for 6-12 months until the gains already made are consolidated. Unless the US treats India and Pakistan equally, Pakistan will not fulfill any American demands which are undue.
US has a huge market in India to sell its arms and ammo, however only a trustworthy relationship with Pakistan will ensure a face saving exit for US troops in Afghanistan and protection of regional American interests. Otherwise, US can always turn to India for help, let me see how many thousands of Indian soldiers can fight and die in the so-called ‘war- on (t)error’.

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By: Neel123 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/01/24/u-s-policy-confusion-on-pakistan-and-india/comment-page-1/#comment-27447 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:12:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4593#comment-27447 First of all, the terrorists are a gift of the Anglo-American collaboration with Pakistan, to fight the Soviets.

Using terrorists as tools of foreign policy and hedge against India, is the crux of the issue now.

It is for the Anglo-Americans to decide if they would like to entertain Pakistan’s evil options against India.

As far as India is concerned, it will do all it can to protect its own national interests, and not that of the Anglo-American power.

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