Comments on: India and Pakistan: finding the right forum for dialogue http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/02/23/india-and-pakistan-finding-the-right-forum-for-dialogue/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: https://eyeweardock.com/shop/brand/dita/ http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/02/23/india-and-pakistan-finding-the-right-forum-for-dialogue/comment-page-1/#comment-53750 Sun, 28 Sep 2014 15:25:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4784#comment-53750 Which means that, Game master Jari Kurri, You never know a tiny little somethin in regards to playing golf some of the most important send align, Would be the actual other hand seat because within your click box and can run the ahead long run along with even when an additional admin functions safety the. The 4th guide this standard may possibly be the goalkeeper. Finland was being the on the innovative feeling goalkeeper motor coachs for everybody clubhouse competitors so this is smart.

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By: RajeevK http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/02/23/india-and-pakistan-finding-the-right-forum-for-dialogue/comment-page-1/#comment-27912 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 03:11:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4784#comment-27912 GW:

Keep on hammering Magic.. this guy Will not respond to anything sensible. I have asked 10 times already all this. His central nervous system fails each time you ask something meaningful.

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By: G-W http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/02/23/india-and-pakistan-finding-the-right-forum-for-dialogue/comment-page-1/#comment-27909 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:30:02 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4784#comment-27909 Just let me clarify in my above post. I am not calling Pakistani’s any thing here, I am just making a contrast to you magic, you are calling Indians Idiots for Kashmir, what would any sane person call you for the slaughter of 3million unarmed citizens of Bengal.

Please tell me how you view the history of your country propating that genocide and the genocide of Kashmiri Hindu Pandits, almost 60,000 of them in Kashmir?

Again, if any Indian soldiers harm an Kashmiri’s, muslim or otherwise, they should be punished for bad behavior and tried. Do you think Pakistan should be admonished or reprimanded in anyway for the death of 3million?

As usual, I will get no answer from any Pakistani’s here, Umair or yourself, Why so silent, has the cat got your tongue?

That is a pity, even Germans today are remorseful for the Jewish Holocaust of 1940’s in WWII. But I am sure that you are also a holocaust deny er.

You hate India so much for 1971, the truth is that you hate yourself so much more and can’t stare at your own face in the mirror, because you wouldnt be able to deal with it.

True power, strength and wisdom lies in admitting mistake and fault.

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By: G-W http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/02/23/india-and-pakistan-finding-the-right-forum-for-dialogue/comment-page-1/#comment-27908 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:22:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4784#comment-27908 Magic786 said:

” You idiots need to have bigger better heart to admit first you have done wrongs to kashmriis that would be start. Ti this day I have never heard any idiot even utter a word for a mother whos child killed, husband murdered, daughter raped and hope of better life taken away from them.”

–>Fine, take note, I as an Indian feel horrible for any attrocities committed by the Indian Army presence in Kashmir. Are you happy now?…has anything changed..NO!

You must take note though, the problems in India Kashmir, if any, started once Pakistan started its active support, supply, arming and training of succesionist rebel jihadi Proxy war armies into Kashmir in the 80’s, prompting the Indian Army to address the security deterioration in Kashmir. The Indian Gov’t has an obligation to protect India’s security and territorial integrity. Ordinary citizens are always caught in the middle, in any war, when Armies are taking a footprint amonst civilians…look at what the U.S. Armies did to the Phillipinos and Vietnamese…this has nothing to do with religion, you fool.

Now that you call Indians Idiots for being in Indian Kashmir, by any international I can call you Pakistani’s “DEMONS” for genociding 2.5million HIndus and 500,000 muslims in East Pakistan.

The sheer number of deaths in the Bengali Holocaust overshadows the Kashmiri deaths by almost 30times, yet you Pakistani’s are all curiosly silent and don’t want to engage this topic, you all just magically have amnesia and quietly sit there, never answering.

You have a chance to show that Pakistan is remorseful towards the genocide, would you like to take a stab and admit some remorse for the organized systematic slaughter and murder of 3million humans in such a short time frame?

The world is waiting for your answer, we have waiting since 1971 for Pakistani’s to admit remorse, anything, at all for the sytematic murder and extremination of 3million humans

I have never seen one Pakistani admit that genocide and I have been on these blogs for a couple of years now.

If you hate India so much for its human rights violations in Kashmir, which you claim, you must wish that your country goto Hell, for what your punjabi army did in Bengal.

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By: RajeevK http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/02/23/india-and-pakistan-finding-the-right-forum-for-dialogue/comment-page-1/#comment-27880 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 00:19:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4784#comment-27880 Magic786:

FYI:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tdi-HlK46 so&feature=related

Kashmiris in Pakistan speaking against Pakistan’s policies.

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By: Magic786 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/02/23/india-and-pakistan-finding-the-right-forum-for-dialogue/comment-page-1/#comment-27757 Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:52:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4784#comment-27757 “Pakistan’s responsiblities with regards to Kashmir, which it is violating,”

Here we go agian Pakistans responsibilties and which part of this resoultion is India adhering to?

So its always Pakistan must do this first and that..how about being a little mature as a bigger bully neighour why not lead by example. Take half of your army out of Kashmir that will leave the Pak admin with no choice and they have to do the same.

On one hand you say Pakistan should implement by letter that resoultion can you answer which part has india followed. Has india implemented its part of the commitment. Without even looking i tell the part india commited to and follwed.

Oppress the Kashmiris by any means… murder, stage killings, dummy admins, anything that can be done to shut these fools in vthe valley. What have you achieved opposite dont belive me go and see and hear for yourself. But then you rather bury your head in the sand when you hear anything agaianst india. You idiots need to have bigger better heart to admit first you have done wrongs to kashmriis that would be start. Ti this day I have never heard any idiot even utter a word for a mother whos child killed, husband murdered, daughter raped and hope of better life taken away from them.

I guess according to g-w thinking India is saint and always follows every UN resoulution word to word and its spoilt Pakistan that does not. g=w you need to grow up yes mentally lol.

By being biggger neighour it brings bigger responsibilties rather than saying… we will hold “talk about talks”. What?!

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By: G-W http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/02/23/india-and-pakistan-finding-the-right-forum-for-dialogue/comment-page-1/#comment-27748 Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:22:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4784#comment-27748 @Myra,

Myra, Mr. Keithz has several times posted UNSCR 47, which stipulates Pakistan’s responsiblities with regards to Kashmir, which it is violating, which it does not teach in Pakistani schools and its citizens completely ignore on this blog.

I urge you to step back and consider using the UNSCR 47 as a topic unto its own and give it its full due credence and attention on the international stage and it should also be brought up at any bilateral talks between the two countries.

In fact, it should even be amended to stipulate that any state fueling terrorism and separatism, should forfeit any claims or grievances.

A – RESTORATION OF PEACE AND ORDER

1. The Government of Pakistan should undertake to use its best endeavours:

(a) To secure the withdrawal from the State of Jammu and Kashmir of tribesmen and
Pakistani nationals not normally resident therein who have entered the State for the purposes
of fighting, and to prevent any intrusion into the State of such elements and any furnishing of
material aid to those fighting in the State;

(b) To make known to all concerned that the measures indicated in this and the following
paragraphs provide full freedom to all subjects of the State, regardless of creed, caste, or
party, to express their views and to vote on the question of the accession of the State, and
that therefore they should co-operate in the maintenance of peace and order.

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By: Umairpk http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/02/23/india-and-pakistan-finding-the-right-forum-for-dialogue/comment-page-1/#comment-27745 Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:08:21 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4784#comment-27745 Useless talks nothing will change. Both countries have learnt to live with it. With this status quo, India’s progress in the world stage will always have a limit and will not reach its full potential. Pakistan will suffer in its own way.
In my view the best solution of Kashmir is that it is made a visa free zone, an autonomous territory. Thats it. Finish the conflict or live with it.
As with terrorism, let both countries be on peaceful terms and Pakistan will do whatever it can to cooperate on this. With currently Pakistani state fighting against terrorists posing direct threat to Pakistan, Pakistan becomes the priority not the terrorist groups focused on India.

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By: DaraIndia http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/02/23/india-and-pakistan-finding-the-right-forum-for-dialogue/comment-page-1/#comment-27738 Wed, 24 Feb 2010 07:11:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4784#comment-27738 I think these talks should restrict themselves to working out a mutually acceptable agenda for a subsequent meeting(s). In trying to discuss any specifics, both sides will stick to their pet, rather “core” positions, Terrorism – Kashmir. Both need to be discussed but under a clearly thought out format in a phased manner. Unless of course the exercise is being undertaken merely as a token of meeting under the same roof to appease onlookers.

I really have not understood what the difference is between bilateral talks, talks, negotiations, composite dialogue and any other kind of dialogue. Shouldn’t they all have the same goal in mind? So why all the fuss about what the dialogue should be termed? Pakistan wants it be called or be a part of the composite dialogue, India says we’ll talk but not a composite dialogue…… sounds immature, as if its all about scoring points and one upmanship. One wonders whether either side is really expecting to move forward or they want to be seen going through the motions to meet international and national compulsions.

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