Comments on: Seeking Saudi cooperation on Afghanistan and Pakistan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/02/28/seeking-saudi-cooperation-on-afghanistan-and-pakistan/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/02/28/seeking-saudi-cooperation-on-afghanistan-and-pakistan/comment-page-2/#comment-27904 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:52:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4847#comment-27904 @ Magic786: “But when does a girl become “balig” – adult – in your eyes… as I know living in England there are girls that are around that age ten just above or less who are pregnanet and have babies. How I know I can see them pushing prams to the job centers”

Your lack of intellectual capacity isn’t lost on this blog as you’ve graced it one stupid comment after another but this one takes the cake. So there are 10 yr old mothers strolling around the streets of UK? LMAO! So, I guess UK must be a pedophilia haven with girls having super-human biological powers to be delivering kids at that age. FYI, in most civilized countries, having sex with girls below the age of 18 is considered as ‘statutory rape’ even if it’s consensual.

@ “First you answer in simple terms – YES-NO- Do you worship hand made idols and bow down to them and ask them for help and even give them milk to drink. In some instances the idol has even drank it NOT!lol….ooohh”

I haven’t answered your question because I don’t know the answer & frankly I don’t wanna know either. I believe that religion is a very personal & private matter & whether a person finds his/her faith in a stone, tree or a snake is no one’s but that individual’s business. You, me or anyone, has no right to question or mock someone’s faith because at the end of the day God is one despite the different names given and by insulting someone else’s faith or religion, you are actually insulting God. It’s as simple as that but maybe you’re just too bigoted, hateful & moronic to get this into your thick skull.

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By: khuidude http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/02/28/seeking-saudi-cooperation-on-afghanistan-and-pakistan/comment-page-2/#comment-27903 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:17:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4847#comment-27903 Beautiful rajeev. This crazy concept of a higher power, with foolish interpretations of his rules has brought so much hate and discord. But the fact of the matter is, it was a concept created to unite people and bring them along a fold with norms acceptable by a majority of society. Rather than religion change with changing nature and structure of society, we are witnesses to a society forced to remain in the stone age, due to a bad interpretation of religion.

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By: RajeevK http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/02/28/seeking-saudi-cooperation-on-afghanistan-and-pakistan/comment-page-2/#comment-27901 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:05:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4847#comment-27901 Guys:

Pahunchi yahan bhi Shaikh wa Brahman ki guftagu
Ab maikada bhi sair ke qaabil nahin raha.
(The quarrel of Shaikh, Brahmin has reached here
Even the tavern is no longer worth a visit!)

–this quarrel makes Reuters no longer worth a visit.

Also:

Iqbal’s:
Ummeed-e hoor ne sab kuch sikha rakha hai waaez ko
Yeh hazrat dekhne main seedhe hain, saade hain, bhole bhaale hain.
(The hope of houris has taught him all he wants to know
The priest merely looks simple, humble, plain, innocent.)

Houris means beautiful virgin girls.
How right was OSHO who asked his followers to get over this curiosity for sex by having it than curbing it and move on to do constructive stuff. I see destruction and killing of innocents by Jihadis in the hope of sex. People justify sex crazy fanatics as Jihadi. How peaceful!

Ghalib’s:
Kahan maikhana ka darwaza Ghalib aur kahan waaez
Par itna jaante hain, kal wo jaata tha ke ham nikle.
(Where is the tavern door, Ghalib, and where the priest!
But this I know: yesterday he entered as I was leaving.)

Daagh’s:
Zahid sharaab peene de masjid mein baith kar
Ya wo jagah bata de jahan par Khuda na ho.
(Priest, let me sit and drink inside the mosque
Or tell me that place where God can’t be found.)

This one seems like Guru Nanak Dev’s story. During one of his journeys, when he was tired and was sleeping in a mosque, a Mullah was angrily asked him to shift his direction so that his feet do not face kaaba since that is a sacrilege. He asked Mullah to shift his feet in the direction where GOD is not there.

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By: punjabiyaar http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/02/28/seeking-saudi-cooperation-on-afghanistan-and-pakistan/comment-page-2/#comment-27900 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:22:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4847#comment-27900 @Magic786

——-“But when does a girl become “balig” – adult – in your eyes… as I know living in England there are girls that are around that age ten just above or less who are pregnanet and have babies. How I know I can see them pushing prams to the job centers… But the reason I mentioned this to inform you that even in 2010 in the most developed countries these things happen and why did it happend long time ago will also share with you.”

A girl need to be above a specific age to carry a healthy child, getting pregnent at age 10 is medically just too risky for mother and child both. This is a proven fact and many islamic nations have a legal marrying age for this.

These things happen in 2010 and will keep happening, but this is not considered RIGHT and there are laws against it. Humans do the mistakes and crimes too.

Now coming back to mohammed, he was no ordinary human but instead a messenger send by god isn’t it. How come he did not know that and joined the party. If a deemed prophet cannot stands against the social ills, whats the use of it. Either he is not a prophet or the people who follow him are plain fools.

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By: punjabiyaar http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/02/28/seeking-saudi-cooperation-on-afghanistan-and-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-27899 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:59:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4847#comment-27899 @Magic876

——“First you answer in simple terms – YES-NO- Do you worship hand made idols and bow down to them and ask them for help and even give them milk to drink. In some instances the idol has even drank it NOT!lol”

YES Hindus do that and tell me how its different from throwing Stones at stone pillars alias Satan at Mecca ?

If you can see EVIL in stones what cant you see DIVINE in stones. I had asked you this earlier as well but you were dead silent on this. Probably you feared that Fanatics will be after you for using logic.

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By: khuidude http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/02/28/seeking-saudi-cooperation-on-afghanistan-and-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-27898 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:38:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4847#comment-27898 And Magic,

Please change your screen name. Both Magic and 786 are completed forbidden in your religion. If you insist on keeping it, please don’t say a word about islam. I may have to declare a fatwa on you.

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By: khuidude http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/02/28/seeking-saudi-cooperation-on-afghanistan-and-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-27897 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:36:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4847#comment-27897 LOL,

Shaving, showering, getting an education, peacefully standing up for your rights and being a good decent human being are just too complicated. Its just too much work to get laid.

Go suicide bomb, and the 72 mythical virgins are going to jump in a mythical bed with you in mythical place called heaven controlled by a mythical power called allah. WOW.

But then if pedophilia and genocidal rampages are looked upon as the path of the virtuous, with the only comeback being that you worship stones and snakes, what better can be expected.

I really need to get to work on my bunker. Mortal got any space for one more?

JIHAD JIHAD JIHAD

FATWA FATWA FATWA

KAFIR KAFIR KAFIR

FATWA FATWA FATWA

JIHAD JIHAD JIHAD

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By: punjabiyaar http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/02/28/seeking-saudi-cooperation-on-afghanistan-and-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-27896 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:17:35 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4847#comment-27896 @khuidude/mortal1

Satan has cast a spell on you, how dare you to use your own brain, Some fanatic loser with a divine ambition to meet his 72 virgins is already on his way to blow you up.

Promising sex in afterlife is the most disgusting thing a religion needs for getting and keeping followers.

May be its for the ultimate losers who could not get any in real life.

I sound like Satan isn’t it ?

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By: RajeevK http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/02/28/seeking-saudi-cooperation-on-afghanistan-and-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-27895 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:59:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4847#comment-27895 Umair:

@ok, apart from Idiot, I have never used any of the above word against hindus on this forum.”
–True, only you say “idiot” but what a word you learned from Magic ALI! small thing but keep it up if that helps you.

@Magic786 is a Kashmiri and what he or his family or people of Kashmir has suffered at the hands of India is a different story. That is where the sentiment is coming from.”
-Really his family suffered? how do you know? he never said anything like that. This Magic guy is a lost case. I have interacted with kashmiris who have the decency to put across their feelings much gracefully than this guy and there could be an exchange. This guy is a blot on Kashmiris, who I consider are peaceful people—all religions BTW.

Now going by you, I have lost my friends to Pakistani-supported terrorism in Indian Punjab and faced uncertainty of life each day for nearly 15yrs, should I wish Pakistanis die by suicide attackers like from TTP? I don’t. One thing I have known is that one can not justify violence without being hypocrite and liar. I am not at all a non-violent person by all means but I am strong admirer of those who do that. It is the most difficult thing to do and that is why it is rare to see such people. Assuming you are really for Kashmiri cause, think for a minute the support Kashmiris will get from everywhere if they turn to non-violence and say NO to Pakistan-based terror groups. If every day suicide bombers, dying like rats in Pakistan or elsewhere in the world, cannot achieve their goals, bomb blasts in India definitely are no solution for Kashmir. But sure this is a recipe for disaster.

@Though all human beings are created equal and no one is superior or inferior, that is what Islam teaches, brotherhood and equality.”
—This is why I say that the most dangerous element in terrorism are common people like you. They move in gray zones whenever they feel like they take moderate position like your statement above and run away when it is time to condemn violence against certain people. When it is convenient they take typical position of the Muslim brotherhood/world/ummah and worse give silent support to terrorists like LeT although condemning TTP like killers. Not even a single time you here have condemned LeT based terrorism in India. You (may be) did that about Mumabi case/Kasab but lost tongue about the LeT group of which these terrorists are part of. You saying anything will help no one except your own conscious–assuming you are a religious man and know that this violence is no Jihad of Koran.

@Even I had met muslim friends from hyderabad when i lived overseas, we had a lot in common. Even today as I work in I.T field some of the time I end up talking to someone sitting in Microsoft, HP, IBM call center or tech support in India.”
–If you are this concerned have you given a thought that you need to take a stand and justify to yourself that violence in India by LeT the groups which you silently support will kill the family members of your friends. Moist eyes are useless in the absence of a clear stand. Take help of your religion. As I understand, religion is meant to help politics in your country, not politics corrupt the religion and religious people.

@Besides more muslims in India than Pakistan, if our relations improve the first thing I would like to do is to visit India and go to the Muslim shrines, to Nizamuddin and Muslim towns. ”
–Yes make sure that LeT has stopped blowing up people directly or by sleeper cells (you know all this) does not blow up any one since you might be the victim.

You need to keep a hand at your heart and talk if religion does not help. Again if you can justify yourself something without running away that will be great for your own conscious–you seem to be bit decent person, except when I see sudden irrationality. You do not have to go with PA/ISI policies as a person. If you do they will keep on having those failed and negative policies.

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By: Magic786 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/02/28/seeking-saudi-cooperation-on-afghanistan-and-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-27894 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:57:46 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4847#comment-27894 Whats wrong with dalits? Why are they not equal to anyother idiot?

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