Pakistan’s strategy on the Taliban; the Kabul and Islamabad views

March 8, 2010

karzai zardariIf you read all the commentary on the arrest by Pakistan of Taliban commander Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar  amongst others, there is a very clear distinction between the view from Kabul and the view from Islamabad about what is going on. That is not surprising given the deep distrust between Afghanistan and Pakistan, but I’ve noticed it has become particularly acute over the last month or so. The main argument is whether the arrest of Mullah Baradar and others  was meant to undermine a pro-talks faction and replace them with a harder line ISI-backed Taliban, or whether Pakistan is rounding them up in order to keep control over any negotiations on reconciliation with the Taliban. If the latter were true, it would be expecting the United States to address Pakistan’s own security interests, particularly in relation to India, in return for its help in tackling the Afghan Taliban.  

So do read two articles which came out over the last week or so to compare the two quite different views.

In Foreign Policy, Thomas Johnson and Chris Mason argued that the arrest of Mullah Baradar amongst others was a purge by hardliners:

 ”The military and political madness of the AfPak Wonderland has entered a new chapter of folly with the detention of a few Taliban mullahs in Pakistan, most notably Mullah Baradar, once the military strategist of the Quetta Shura, the primary Taliban leadership council headed by Mullah Omar. Like the Mock Turtle and the Gryphon in Alice in Wonderland, this has the Washington establishment dancing the whacked-out Lobster-Quadrille: Instant Afghanistan experts at the White House and pundits at august Beltway institutions like the Brookings Institution are absurdly calling the detentions a “sea change” in Pakistani behavior.

“In fact, it is no such thing. Pakistan has not abandoned overnight its 50-year worship of the totem of “strategic depth,” its cornerstone belief that it must control Afghanistan, or its marriage to the Taliban, and anyone who believes that is indulging in magical thinking. What has happened is, in fact, a purge by Taliban hard-liners of men perceived to be insufficiently reliable, either ethnically or politically, or both. It is well-known that there had been a schism in the Quetta Shura for months, with hard-liner and former Gitmo prisoner Mullah Zakir (aka Abdullah Ghulam Rasoul) coming out on top over Mullah Baradar. Baradar sheltered fellow Popalzai Hamid Karzai in 2001 and possibly saved his life after an errant U.S. bomb in Uruzgan province killed several men on the Special Forces team that was escorting him. Baradar later became a confidant of the president’s  brother, paid CIA informer Ahmed Wali Karzai, and met occasionally with the president himself in the tangled web of Afghan politics.”

Then read Hasan Askari Rizvi in the Daily Times.

“A major shift has taken place in the disposition of the Pakistan Army and the intelligence agencies towards the Pakistan-based Afghan Taliban in January-February 2010. Some of the well known Afghan Taliban leaders and TTP activists have been arrested in different cities, especially from Karachi,” he writes.

“Pakistan’s tough approach towards the Pakistani and Afghan Taliban is the product of the down-to-earth analysis of the growing Taliban threat by Pakistan’s security authorities and the increased interaction between the top brass of the Pakistan Army and the US military authorities dealing with this region during the last six months.”

“These arrests are also meant to help the US because Pakistan wants the current US-led NATO operation to succeed in Afghanistan. Pakistan cannot afford to let the Afghan Taliban capture power in Kabul, although it would like more effective Pashtun representation in the Kabul government, including accommodation of the Taliban that are willing to give up the military option.

“Pakistan’s cooperation with the current US policy in Afghanistan is based on the assumption that the US military authorities in the region recognise Pakistan’s security sensitivities about India’s role in Afghanistan and India’s pressure on the eastern border. The other consideration is that the US would contribute to upgrading Pakistan’s capacity to fight the Taliban in the tribal areas. If these understandings persist, Pakistan is expected to continue with the current counter-terrorism policy.”

U.S. special envoy Richard Holbrooke said in an interview with the Financial Times that he does not know exactly what is going on:

“Everyone has asked the same question. How do you know? Have we turned a corner? I’m not prepared to make those judgments, and you’ll have to ask the Pakistanis that,” he said. “I’m an agnostic at this point . . . as to whether this was a policy change [by Islamabad] or a serendipitous collection of discrete events.”

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Given the distrust existing between not just Kabul and Afghanistan but also between Washington and the other two, all three seem to be looking over their shoulders at each other. Afghanistan has truly become a melting pot. Either that, or there are just too many analysts, experts and commentators who are stirring up one confusing brew with all their deep, deep analysis and spin.

I wonder how Rizvi of the Daily Times can talk of Pakistan not wanting the Afghan Taliban to come to power. If that be so, then who is there left in Afghanistan to offer a helping hand to Pakistan?

As for Mr Holbrooke not knowing whats going on, seems par for the course. Shouldn’t he be the one actually telling everyone else what is going on? Some envoy to the region!

Posted by DaraIndia | Report as abusive

Sorry the first line should read “Given the distrust existing between not just Kabul and Islamabad” instead of “Kabul and Afghanistan.”

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@Pakistan policy for Afghan Taliban: I agree with Foreign Policy than with Daily Times on this issue. Given the history, Daily times is jumping to conclusion. It will take a lot arrive at this conclusion.

Now on this one from Daily times:
@Third, the intelligence agencies have discovered strong linkages between various militant groups in Punjab and the TTP. Invariably, the former acted as facilitators for the suicide bombers in the urban areas and their activists got training in the tribal areas. Pakistan’s security agencies arrested a large number of the activists of the Punjab-based militant groups in order to weaken their linkages with the TTP. This partly disrupted the terrorism chain that linked Punjab with the tribal areas.”

—-So Punjab based militants are collaborating with Taliban to blow Pakistanis? It has been in the news earlier also. These groups may be distinct from LeT brand which are against India, but the air in South Punjab is very conducive to production of Jihadis—some against Pakistan and the other against India and some against both. It is just not possible that those who support terrorism in India will themselves be immune to this disease.

Just wanted to make a point.

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Pakistan has complete control over the Afghan Taliban. They have carefully preserved the Taliban leaders all these years waiting for the Americans to get tired and leave the region. Al Qaeda has messed up their regional plans. Pakistan had no interest in global jihad. Its only interest is in taking on its traditional rival India. It saw a golden opportunity to control Afghanistan after the USSR was decimated and created the Taliban. Unfortunately, Al Qaeda moved in and spoiled the party. Osama Bin Laden had an agenda that was mostly focused on the Western powers and his Jihad was global. So a love triangle developed in Afghanistan with Al Qaeda taking the bride Taliban, leaving Pakistan frustrated. 9/11 happened and the whole thing fell apart. So Pakistan has worked with the Americans to weaken Al Qaeda as much as possible, while preserving the Taliban at all costs. It has worked hard to keep the hard liners on its side and if anyone was seen drifting away from its regional agenda, they were “captured” or killed by American drones with Pak intelligence’s help. That is the real story. Pakistan is patiently waiting for the Americans to declare victory and leave. It is hoping that Americans will throw Obama out in 2012 and a Republican President will take over. Then it would be easy to handle Afghanistan. India’s missions inside Afghanistan is a later development and Pakistan is working desperately to get rid off growing Indian influence. The only means it knows is by blowing up Indian embassies and hotels. But that has strengthened the Indian resolve. Post-American Afghanistan will see another battle ground develop – between India and Pakistan. So Pakistan badly needs to preserve the core elements of the Taliban. Its effort is to convince the Americans that the Taliban group should be allowed to survive and take part in governance. Soon there will be a campaign that the Taliban are not terrorists, they had nothing to do with 9/11 and left to themselves they mind their own business etc. It all depends on how desperate the American public become in pressurizing the exit of their troops from Afghanistan. Pakistan is playing the delay game.

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Nothing can force Pakistan, Pakistan Army or ISI into compliance, no lectures, no more calls to “do more”. Pakistan has its own strategic interests and the capacity to pursue, promote and protect its strategic interests.
Recently Gen Kayani COAS Pakistan Army had clearly stated that Pakistan does not want to control Afghanistan. The region’s geo-political and strategic outlook has been greatly transformed, Pakistan’s own strategic paradigm is shifted greatly. Recent arrests and increasing cooperation by Pakistan is a result of that shift, no one should doubt Pakistan’s intent. No more conspiracy theories, Pakistan Army has lost its officers and men, what is happening now is just consistent with events in recent past.

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“Nothing can force Pakistan, Pakistan Army or ISI into compliance, no lectures, no more calls to “do more”. Pakistan has its own strategic interests and the capacity to pursue, promote and protect its strategic interests.”

Economic sanctions can. The Americans have been too nice. But once they nail some key Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders, Pakistan is not needed to fulfill their objectives. They are succeeding in Marjah and Taliban is getting restless.

By the way, the drones are flying from Pak air fields and knocking out militant leaders. And Pakistani military or government can do nothing about it. So much for Pakistan not being coerced or forced.

Posted by KPSingh01 | Report as abusive

@Nothing can force Pakistan, Pakistan Army or ISI into compliance, no lectures, no more calls to “do more”.”
-Umairpk

I agree in part. Not even Pakistanis nor the leaders can force Pakistan Army or ISI into compliance not even killings of Pakistanis by Pakistanis. They do not listen to the call that PA is just one of the many departments in Pakistan and should stay that way. But no, it wants to “do more”

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@By the way, the drones are flying from Pak air fields and knocking out militant leaders. And Pakistani military or government can do nothing about it. So much for Pakistan not being coerced or forced.
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—Kayani/PA is helping this. US’s policy seems like, just help us drone you and say whatever next day in ISPR.

Posted by RajeevK | Report as abusive

Over the years, the Pakistanis have done a perfect impersonation of a chameleon. They have changed colors & sides at will. Taking full advantage of a buffoon in the white house, for 7 years, they gave the appearance of being an ally in the GWOT, while shielding the top brass of the Afghan Taliban & Al Qaeda and milking the American taxpayer, all along. All that came to a screeching halt with the election of Obama. The current US administration has always been fully aware of Pakistan’s duplicitous nature & vile designs. From the onset, they have been putting immense pressure on Pakistan to stop playing their dirty games & be sincere or there will be some serious consequences for Pakistan.

So, what has brought about the “sea of change” in Pakistan’s attitude?
It was the blunt message by Obama in his letter to Zardari, in Dec 2009, personally delivered by Security Advisor Jim Jones. It clearly warned the Pakistanis that “if Pakistan cannot deliver, the United States may be impelled to use any means at its disposal to rout insurgents based along Pakistan’s western and southern borders with Afghanistan”. The message also bluntly said that “if Pakistan didn’t start showing results soon, the Congress will no longer be able to justify the aid being given to Pakistan, to the American people.”
This was apparently, the wake-up call for the Pakistani generals & leaders, who couldn’t bear the thought of ‘no more American aid, finding their wallets’ & so they sprung into action, capturing Mullah Baradar etc. I won’t be surprised at all, if within the next few months, the Pakistani army ‘suddenly captures’ Mullah Omar & Bin Laden as well.

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Mortal: “Taking full advantage of a buffoon in the white house, for 7 years, they gave the appearance of being an ally in the GWOT, while shielding the top brass of the Afghan Taliban & Al Qaeda and milking the American taxpayer, all along. ”

Picked this up from the Guardian blog (Replies):

When the US confronted Musharraf in 2001, they asked him, “Are you with us or against us?”

Musharraf said, “Y..Y..Yes.. Yes s…sir.. Sahib!”

The Americans assumed that Musharraf meant Pakistan was with the US.

But Musharraf assumed that the Americans wanted them to be both with the US and against it. So for eight years Pakistan ran with the hare and hunted with the hounds. Soon you will find Umair offering this clarification to the world.

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@KPSingh: lol…Yep, that explains it all!

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Mortal/KPSingh01:

@All that came to a screeching halt with the election of Obama. The current US administration has always been fully aware of Pakistan’s duplicitous nature & vile designs. From the onset, they have been putting immense pressure on Pakistan to stop playing their dirty games & be sincere or there will be some serious consequences for Pakistan.”

—Bush or Obama; there is not much difference as far as how to deal with Pakistan. we really have to question whether US (Rep or Dem) itself is serious about Pakistan. It is just a case of statement here and there (sometimes different statements in India and Pakistan on the same trip), keeping people busy in deep analysis. In fact US too has to do more than lip service (like Pakistan has to “do more” [did it set in allergic reaction in certain Pakistani readers] to prove they are against Afghan Taliban or anyother goon) to prove that US will twist pakistan into action to tackle what US wants.

Somehow I just cannot buy that all these professionals in US do not know what Pakistan has been up to. I think India knows this all along. US is a big talker, so far. Then may be this is the best solution, let Pakistan keep on the path it has chosen and meet the inevitable.

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Rajeev,

I think that there definitely is a difference between Bush & Obama towards their approach in dealing with Pakistan. While Bush was certainly taken for a ride by the Pakistani leadership, Obama has adopted a sterner tone in dealing with them, while holding them accountable for their actions & the aid provided. It’s been evident by the stipulations in the KLB & the tone of the US officials vis-a-vis Pakistan. I also don’t think that it’s a mere coincidence that there has been just one terror attack in India since Obama took over. Behind the scenes, Pakistan has been told that it will no longer be handed over free lunches, so it needs to quit playing games, get it’s act together & stop sponsoring any & all kinds of terrorism as it will no longer be tolerated. While the Bush administration mostly dangled carrots in front of the Pakistanis, Obama is bringing out the sticks & it has certainly made the generals in Rawalpindi uncomfortable, which is evident by their heightened anti-US propaganda in recent times, be it the furor over the Kerry Lugar bill or the fictitious black water mercenaries taking over Pakistan. The approach has been clear, let’s just see what kind of results, it yields.

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Mortal1 wrote:
“Over the years, the Pakistanis have done a perfect impersonation of a chameleon. They have changed colors & sides at will. Taking full advantage of a buffoon in the white house, for 7 years, they gave the appearance of being an ally in the GWOT, while shielding the top brass of the Afghan Taliban & Al Qaeda and milking the American taxpayer, all along. All that came to a screeching halt with the election of Obama.”

-Good old American politics in play, no wonder you are a die hard democrat but i dont think the way Sarah Palin is preparing for 2012 presidential run and democrats are doing badly in healthcare reform, and low approval ratings on Afghan war, Democrats have a tough job ahead. US public was fooled by Obama’s “Yes We Can” slogans and same people are fed up with more of the same.
Also only this month, US Air Force is delivering Pakistan with thousands of laser guided bombs, a batch of 18 F-16s is due for delivery to Pakistan Air Force in a couple of months. And Gen. Kayani has clearly stated that Pakistan faces a long term threat from India and Pakistan military continues to focus on India. I would say Indian lobbies are doing a pretty bad job in US, and historically Republican administrations have had better ties with Pakistan. Only couple of years before the democrats leave the white house and all is well.

“Obama is bringing out the sticks & it has certainly made the generals in Rawalpindi uncomfortable”

-Don’t tell me, I have seen how from Richard Holbrooke to Gen. McChrystal Secretary Clinton, Leon Panetta and Gen. Petraus all administration officials have gone on a charm offensive to beg Pakistan to bail America from the Afghan war. Tough talk aside, it is the US which is in deep trouble with an economic downturn at home a skeptical public, a loosing war, America needs all its help from Pakistan. Too much for carrots, Pakistan would still survive without so-called “American Aid” but without Pakistan’s active support, US will loose face and the war too in Afghanistan.

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“Are you with us or against us?”

Same question was asked by a Pakistani military officer from Defense secretary Robert Gates while addressing Pakistan army officers at the National Defense University in Islamabad during his recent visit. What an irony, a superpower is loosing face in a humiliating war next door. And the mood in Pakistan is tough, America cannot dictate terms in the way it once did.

This is a unique experience for me, Pakistan and America are like two friends who once had a very good friendship. But in bad times one friend left the other and lost its trust, finding himself in trouble that friend reaches out to the other again, trying everything to win back the trust, but to no avail. Irony is both friends need each other for different reasons, while Pakistan can be all a so-called ‘bankrupt, failed state” or whatever, US needs Pakistan help to ensure a face saving exit from the Afghan quagmire. Even beyond that Pakistan will play a critical role in the region and US needs its help. Its all about priorities, Pakistan will continue to be a magnet for extrenmist groups and Pakistani state will play a critical role in denying that.

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New York politics rocked by upheavals- Associated Press

New York Democratic Gov. David Paterson dropped his re-election bid because of evidence he may have pressed the girlfriend of his closest top aide to drop charges of domestic violence against the aide. That bombshell, along with accusations that Paterson broke ethics laws when he sought World Series tickets and then lied about his intention to pay for them, has spurred a drumbeat of calls for his resignation.

“New York Democrats are looking more and more like a Jerry Springer episode, and that will intensify voter disaffection,” Warfield said. “Republicans should be able to benefit from that.”

Demorats under fire.

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Umair:

You call Bush et al neocon and Nadeem Paracha calls you “neocon intellectuals” from Punjab.

NFP says “neocon intellectuals” from Punjab…. accuse the …..US and India for having nefarious designs on Pakistan without offering an iota of evidence, but would get into a long navel-gazing exercise asking for proof of militant involvement in a terrorist attack.”" even though “”Determining which forces are hell-bent on mutilating the country is not rocket science.”

http://blog.dawn.com/2010/03/08/wake-up- punjab/

“”"Punjab is suffering. And it is not only from extremist terrorism. It is as if every time its leadership and people attempt to awkwardly repress the obvious lashings of fear and confusion that cut viciously across the province whenever there is a terrorist attack, they become more vocal in their condemnation of the present government at the centre, incredibly investing more emotional and intellectual energy on abstract issues such as corruption, judiciary, and ‘good governance’ through passionate displays of TV studio and drawing-room nobility, rather than directly tackling their greatest enemy.

“”"Funny thing is, they would readily accuse the president of corruption and the US and India for having nefarious designs on Pakistan without offering an iota of evidence, but would get into a long navel-gazing exercise asking for proof of militant involvement in a terrorist attack.

Again, why? Why in the Punjab? Are the Sindhis and Karachiites more enlightened, liberal, moderate or whatever? Some of my most intelligent friends are from the Punjab, as was my father. And so I keep asking these friends, why isn’t the Punjab fighting back this menace of extremism? Why have most of this province’s brightest minds allowed themselves to be pushed in the background by this new breed of neoconservative ‘intellectuals’ in the shape of TV talk show hosts, ‘journalists,’ ‘analysts,’ et al?

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@Its all about priorities, Pakistan will continue to be a magnet for extrenmist groups and Pakistani state will play a critical role in denying that.”
-Umair

—A typical Pak military mind is felling happy that extremists will be around in pakistan, making US worried and thus maintaining US-Pak strategic friendship. You are almost wishing to the point that you will create extremists, it if not. Wonderful!!!!

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@ Umair: “i dont think the way Sarah Palin is preparing for 2012 presidential run and democrats are doing badly in healthcare reform, and low approval ratings on Afghan war, Democrats have a tough job ahead”

LMAO, It seems that these days, Pakistanis have also become experts on American politics. Anyways, don’t worry about outcome of the next presidential election, which is still a political eternity away & even if somehow, a Republican was to win the white house, don’t be surprised, if he/she kicks Pakistan even herder than Obama. Democrat or Republican, American policy & attitude towards Pakistan has changed for good, at least until Pakistan gets it’s act together, gives up terrorism as a state policy & is ready to be a part of the civilized world.

@ “I have seen how from Richard Holbrooke to Gen. McChrystal Secretary Clinton, Leon Panetta and Gen. Petraus all administration officials have gone on a charm offensive to beg Pakistan to bail America from the Afghan war”

Charm offensive? really? Hillary, while in Pakistan, bluntly stated that the Americans are aware of Pakistan’s duplicity & the fact it is shielding the top brass of the Afghan Taliban & Al Qaeda. Holbrooke, McCrystal & Petraeus, all, at some point have clearly warned Pakistan to become sincere or face consequences. It’s your battered ego & the propaganda from your military establishment, which makes you think that you’re important enough to be plead to. In reality, you’re being warned to get the job done or face the music.

@ “Pakistan and America are like two friends who once had a very good friendship. But in bad times one friend left the other and lost its trust”

There was never any ‘friendship’ between the US & Pakistan. Friendship is between 2 equals or between nations with commonalities & there never was or is any parity or commonality between US & Pakistan. There always was & still is a master-slave relationship & Pakistan was just a hired gun during the Afghan war & you’re a hired gun today as well. You were handsomely rewarded for your services back then & that’s the case today as well, so don’t delude yourself.

@ “Its all about priorities, Pakistan will continue to be a magnet for extrenmist groups and Pakistani state will play a critical role in denying that”

Is that an admittance that you will continue to exist as a rogue, terrorist nation & a global migraine?

@ “Too much for carrots, Pakistan would still survive without so-called “American Aid””

How about your generals & leaders having the guts to come out & reject the so-called aid? Talk the talk, when you’re ready to walk the walk, until then, don’t try to bite the hand that feeds you.

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“Its all about priorities, Pakistan will continue to be a magnet for extrenmist groups and Pakistani state will play a critical role in denying that”

As we see it, Pak military’s only priority is India. Everything else is a set back. India is considering scaling down its missions in Afghanistan. Americans have decided to turn a blind eye to Pak military’s local priorities and focus only on what affects them. This will come back to bite them in the future. India has to become more vigilant as Pak military will see the signals arising as the permission to launch its proxy war offensive that was held back for the past ten odd years. So India will see what it experienced in 1989 after the Soviets left. Now the Americans will leave soon. This will give the Pak military to fortify itself by directing all the Jihadi machinery towards India. It will help unite all the factions against a common enemy and prevent these elements from attacking Pakistan. So we are getting back to square one. How India handles it is going to determine what comes out in the long run. As I see it, India is still working on a reactive mode rather than a proactive mode. Obama is planning to launch a major offensive into Kandahar and hoist the victory flag there. Once that is done, he will need to pack up the bags and send the boys back home. That will be the face saving exit before 2012 elections. Republicans will return in 2012. So in all, things do not bode well for India. It should consult Israel on how to set up better intelligence and eliminate leaders of criminal organizations like the LeT directly. Let them run instead of allowing them to chase us.

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Mortal:

@How about your generals & leaders having the guts to come out & reject the so-called aid? Talk the talk, when you’re ready to walk the walk, until then, don’t try to bite the hand that feeds you.”
—It is easy to say for these pakistani “Pakistan would still survive without so-called “American Aid” …..” but tough to practice. If Pakistan could survive, what was the compulsion to accept K-L Bill?

At Teethmaestro the author talks about psychiatry as a solution to this disease of begging.

http://teeth.com.pk/blog/2009/10/21/the- right-to-refuse

He says:
“”"Begging, as a profession could well compete with many others considered oldest on the list, with very similar characteristics. The first clink of coins falling in the begging bowl takes away one’s self esteem and any left over reluctance for all times to come. From here on, there is no looking back. One ceases to utilise one’s own faculties and gets hooked on to the life of easy money. More creative and unscrupulous begging techniques are devised to draw greater sympathy from the charity giver. Interestingly, few beggars have ever become rich or said good bye to beggary. It is a an addiction that even psychiatrists find difficult to deal with. Cold turkey is often the only solution.

“”Sixty years of begging and borrowing have reduced Pakistan to an addicted state whose claim to fame is its own self acquired helplessness. It has said good bye to its own faculties, conscience and self respect. It is willing to find a million excuses to beg , but is not willing to take a single action to reform itself.”"”

US gave Pakistan the option to refuse the K-L Bill when Army cried over the conditions. What happened to the ego of these self-respecting Pakustani generals?

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LoL

http://telecomnewspk.com/2010/02/punjab- assebmly-banned-late-night-packages/

Punjab Assembly today resolved to ban all the late night call packages across Punjab. After the strong arguments about how the late night packages were having the negative impact on the youth, the resolution was passed unanimously.

How are the Pakistani leaders different with Taliban ??

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i think india needs to be proactive. pakistan is a mess. they have all the jihadi factories..they are flirting with taliban and other groups….i think india should not behave so responsibly and diplomaticaly.attack if there’s another strike.

pakistan requires a stick and they are needed to be sorted out …pakistan has a state sponsered terror policy. 1971 brought peace for 30 years .. i think india needs to settle the score ..and finish the unfinished buisness.

jinnah would not have thought in his dreams that pakistan will became the biggest JOKE of history..

today there is not even a single leader in pakistan who can bring peace to their country ..only false hopes from Mr 10%…

india will continue to grow and work towards a bigger,better india…peace in pakistan is not really necessary for india , but peace with india is necessay for pakistan…and that’s what is needed to be understood by pakis..

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Every body know pakistan is like a mother to taliban. pakistan is being ruled by a bunch of fools and they are gonna be the first one to leave the country .and then there are military jokers who are adament and think they can take on india.they need to realise that india can take them both ways unconventional and conventional wars.
india has signed another strategic partnershipwith russia,
india has improved its relations with neighbours like bangladesh,sri lanka, china ..infact bangladesh has helped india catch a few paki militants.
if pakistan doesn’t deal with terrorists(talib ,let and the whole lot) then they are themselves responsible and would be responsible for consequences.

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Taliban are capable of producing one leader after another.

Despite ongoing security challenges, Washington expects Pakistan also to go after Afghan Taliban groups who cross the border to attack US forces in Afghanistan.

Pakistan has arrested the Afghan Taliban number two, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, earning praise from the Americans. But an all-out siege against all Afghan groups would open new fronts and likely cost more Pakistani lives. So Good luck…pakis…there is only one ways of coming out of this crisis…
securing peace with india..nahin to khair nahin.

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Pakistan navy test fires missiles, torpedoes
(AFP) – 6 hours ago

ISLAMABAD — Pakistan on Friday successfully test fired new missiles and torpedoes from ships, submarines and aircraft in the Arabian Sea, the navy announced.

“Pakistan navy fleet today tested its fire power in the north Arabian Sea to assess lethality, precision and efficacy of its weapon system,” it said.

The navy did not disclose range or technical details but said “this included successful firing of a variety of missiles and torpedoes from the ships.”

The tests included anti-surface missiles from an F-22P frigate, acquired recently from China, air-to-surface missiles from P-3C aircraft and sub surface-to-surface missiles from Agosta 90B submarines that originate from France.

“While reassuring Pakistan navy’s commitment of defending the motherland, this strike capability would also send a message of deterrence to anyone harbouring nefarious designs against Pakistan,” the statement said.

South Asian rivals India and Pakistan — which have fought three wars, two of them over the disputed Himalayan territory of Kashmir — routinely carry out missile tests since both demonstrated nuclear weapons capability in 1998.

Last month, India successfully tested a nuclear-capable surface-to-surface Agni-III missile with a range of more than 3,000 kilometres (2,000 miles) from Wheeler Island, off the coast of the eastern state of Orissa.

Pakistan’s arsenal includes short-range, medium and long-range nuclear capable missiles.

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