Comments on: Pakistan’s strategy on the Taliban; the Kabul and Islamabad views http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/03/08/pakistans-strategy-on-the-taliban-the-kabul-and-islamabad-views/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Umairpk http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/03/08/pakistans-strategy-on-the-taliban-the-kabul-and-islamabad-views/comment-page-1/#comment-28033 Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:42:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4878#comment-28033 Pakistan navy test fires missiles, torpedoes
(AFP) – 6 hours ago

ISLAMABAD — Pakistan on Friday successfully test fired new missiles and torpedoes from ships, submarines and aircraft in the Arabian Sea, the navy announced.

“Pakistan navy fleet today tested its fire power in the north Arabian Sea to assess lethality, precision and efficacy of its weapon system,” it said.

The navy did not disclose range or technical details but said “this included successful firing of a variety of missiles and torpedoes from the ships.”

The tests included anti-surface missiles from an F-22P frigate, acquired recently from China, air-to-surface missiles from P-3C aircraft and sub surface-to-surface missiles from Agosta 90B submarines that originate from France.

“While reassuring Pakistan navy’s commitment of defending the motherland, this strike capability would also send a message of deterrence to anyone harbouring nefarious designs against Pakistan,” the statement said.

South Asian rivals India and Pakistan — which have fought three wars, two of them over the disputed Himalayan territory of Kashmir — routinely carry out missile tests since both demonstrated nuclear weapons capability in 1998.

Last month, India successfully tested a nuclear-capable surface-to-surface Agni-III missile with a range of more than 3,000 kilometres (2,000 miles) from Wheeler Island, off the coast of the eastern state of Orissa.

Pakistan’s arsenal includes short-range, medium and long-range nuclear capable missiles.

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By: kanishka http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/03/08/pakistans-strategy-on-the-taliban-the-kabul-and-islamabad-views/comment-page-1/#comment-28031 Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:35:02 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4878#comment-28031 Taliban are capable of producing one leader after another.

Despite ongoing security challenges, Washington expects Pakistan also to go after Afghan Taliban groups who cross the border to attack US forces in Afghanistan.

Pakistan has arrested the Afghan Taliban number two, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, earning praise from the Americans. But an all-out siege against all Afghan groups would open new fronts and likely cost more Pakistani lives. So Good luck…pakis…there is only one ways of coming out of this crisis…
securing peace with india..nahin to khair nahin.

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By: kanishka http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/03/08/pakistans-strategy-on-the-taliban-the-kabul-and-islamabad-views/comment-page-1/#comment-28030 Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:25:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4878#comment-28030 Every body know pakistan is like a mother to taliban. pakistan is being ruled by a bunch of fools and they are gonna be the first one to leave the country .and then there are military jokers who are adament and think they can take on india.they need to realise that india can take them both ways unconventional and conventional wars.
india has signed another strategic partnershipwith russia,
india has improved its relations with neighbours like bangladesh,sri lanka, china ..infact bangladesh has helped india catch a few paki militants.
if pakistan doesn’t deal with terrorists(talib ,let and the whole lot) then they are themselves responsible and would be responsible for consequences.

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By: kanishka http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/03/08/pakistans-strategy-on-the-taliban-the-kabul-and-islamabad-views/comment-page-1/#comment-28029 Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:05:01 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4878#comment-28029 i think india needs to be proactive. pakistan is a mess. they have all the jihadi factories..they are flirting with taliban and other groups….i think india should not behave so responsibly and diplomaticaly.attack if there’s another strike.

pakistan requires a stick and they are needed to be sorted out …pakistan has a state sponsered terror policy. 1971 brought peace for 30 years .. i think india needs to settle the score ..and finish the unfinished buisness.

jinnah would not have thought in his dreams that pakistan will became the biggest JOKE of history..

today there is not even a single leader in pakistan who can bring peace to their country ..only false hopes from Mr 10%…

india will continue to grow and work towards a bigger,better india…peace in pakistan is not really necessary for india , but peace with india is necessay for pakistan…and that’s what is needed to be understood by pakis..

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By: punjabiyaar http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/03/08/pakistans-strategy-on-the-taliban-the-kabul-and-islamabad-views/comment-page-1/#comment-28025 Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:56:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4878#comment-28025 LoL

http://telecomnewspk.com/2010/02/punjab- assebmly-banned-late-night-packages/

Punjab Assembly today resolved to ban all the late night call packages across Punjab. After the strong arguments about how the late night packages were having the negative impact on the youth, the resolution was passed unanimously.

How are the Pakistani leaders different with Taliban ??

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By: RajeevK http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/03/08/pakistans-strategy-on-the-taliban-the-kabul-and-islamabad-views/comment-page-1/#comment-28024 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:40:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4878#comment-28024 Mortal:

@How about your generals & leaders having the guts to come out & reject the so-called aid? Talk the talk, when you’re ready to walk the walk, until then, don’t try to bite the hand that feeds you.”
—It is easy to say for these pakistani “Pakistan would still survive without so-called “American Aid” …..” but tough to practice. If Pakistan could survive, what was the compulsion to accept K-L Bill?

At Teethmaestro the author talks about psychiatry as a solution to this disease of begging.

http://teeth.com.pk/blog/2009/10/21/the- right-to-refuse

He says:
“””Begging, as a profession could well compete with many others considered oldest on the list, with very similar characteristics. The first clink of coins falling in the begging bowl takes away one’s self esteem and any left over reluctance for all times to come. From here on, there is no looking back. One ceases to utilise one’s own faculties and gets hooked on to the life of easy money. More creative and unscrupulous begging techniques are devised to draw greater sympathy from the charity giver. Interestingly, few beggars have ever become rich or said good bye to beggary. It is a an addiction that even psychiatrists find difficult to deal with. Cold turkey is often the only solution.

“”Sixty years of begging and borrowing have reduced Pakistan to an addicted state whose claim to fame is its own self acquired helplessness. It has said good bye to its own faculties, conscience and self respect. It is willing to find a million excuses to beg , but is not willing to take a single action to reform itself.”””

US gave Pakistan the option to refuse the K-L Bill when Army cried over the conditions. What happened to the ego of these self-respecting Pakustani generals?

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By: KPSingh01 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/03/08/pakistans-strategy-on-the-taliban-the-kabul-and-islamabad-views/comment-page-1/#comment-28023 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:58:01 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4878#comment-28023 “Its all about priorities, Pakistan will continue to be a magnet for extrenmist groups and Pakistani state will play a critical role in denying that”

As we see it, Pak military’s only priority is India. Everything else is a set back. India is considering scaling down its missions in Afghanistan. Americans have decided to turn a blind eye to Pak military’s local priorities and focus only on what affects them. This will come back to bite them in the future. India has to become more vigilant as Pak military will see the signals arising as the permission to launch its proxy war offensive that was held back for the past ten odd years. So India will see what it experienced in 1989 after the Soviets left. Now the Americans will leave soon. This will give the Pak military to fortify itself by directing all the Jihadi machinery towards India. It will help unite all the factions against a common enemy and prevent these elements from attacking Pakistan. So we are getting back to square one. How India handles it is going to determine what comes out in the long run. As I see it, India is still working on a reactive mode rather than a proactive mode. Obama is planning to launch a major offensive into Kandahar and hoist the victory flag there. Once that is done, he will need to pack up the bags and send the boys back home. That will be the face saving exit before 2012 elections. Republicans will return in 2012. So in all, things do not bode well for India. It should consult Israel on how to set up better intelligence and eliminate leaders of criminal organizations like the LeT directly. Let them run instead of allowing them to chase us.

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/03/08/pakistans-strategy-on-the-taliban-the-kabul-and-islamabad-views/comment-page-1/#comment-28022 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:46:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4878#comment-28022 @ Umair: “i dont think the way Sarah Palin is preparing for 2012 presidential run and democrats are doing badly in healthcare reform, and low approval ratings on Afghan war, Democrats have a tough job ahead”

LMAO, It seems that these days, Pakistanis have also become experts on American politics. Anyways, don’t worry about outcome of the next presidential election, which is still a political eternity away & even if somehow, a Republican was to win the white house, don’t be surprised, if he/she kicks Pakistan even herder than Obama. Democrat or Republican, American policy & attitude towards Pakistan has changed for good, at least until Pakistan gets it’s act together, gives up terrorism as a state policy & is ready to be a part of the civilized world.

@ “I have seen how from Richard Holbrooke to Gen. McChrystal Secretary Clinton, Leon Panetta and Gen. Petraus all administration officials have gone on a charm offensive to beg Pakistan to bail America from the Afghan war”

Charm offensive? really? Hillary, while in Pakistan, bluntly stated that the Americans are aware of Pakistan’s duplicity & the fact it is shielding the top brass of the Afghan Taliban & Al Qaeda. Holbrooke, McCrystal & Petraeus, all, at some point have clearly warned Pakistan to become sincere or face consequences. It’s your battered ego & the propaganda from your military establishment, which makes you think that you’re important enough to be plead to. In reality, you’re being warned to get the job done or face the music.

@ “Pakistan and America are like two friends who once had a very good friendship. But in bad times one friend left the other and lost its trust”

There was never any ‘friendship’ between the US & Pakistan. Friendship is between 2 equals or between nations with commonalities & there never was or is any parity or commonality between US & Pakistan. There always was & still is a master-slave relationship & Pakistan was just a hired gun during the Afghan war & you’re a hired gun today as well. You were handsomely rewarded for your services back then & that’s the case today as well, so don’t delude yourself.

@ “Its all about priorities, Pakistan will continue to be a magnet for extrenmist groups and Pakistani state will play a critical role in denying that”

Is that an admittance that you will continue to exist as a rogue, terrorist nation & a global migraine?

@ “Too much for carrots, Pakistan would still survive without so-called “American Aid””

How about your generals & leaders having the guts to come out & reject the so-called aid? Talk the talk, when you’re ready to walk the walk, until then, don’t try to bite the hand that feeds you.

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By: RajeevK http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/03/08/pakistans-strategy-on-the-taliban-the-kabul-and-islamabad-views/comment-page-1/#comment-28020 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:27:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4878#comment-28020 @Its all about priorities, Pakistan will continue to be a magnet for extrenmist groups and Pakistani state will play a critical role in denying that.”
-Umair

—A typical Pak military mind is felling happy that extremists will be around in pakistan, making US worried and thus maintaining US-Pak strategic friendship. You are almost wishing to the point that you will create extremists, it if not. Wonderful!!!!

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By: RajeevK http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/03/08/pakistans-strategy-on-the-taliban-the-kabul-and-islamabad-views/comment-page-1/#comment-28019 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:21:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4878#comment-28019 Umair:

You call Bush et al neocon and Nadeem Paracha calls you “neocon intellectuals” from Punjab.

NFP says “neocon intellectuals” from Punjab…. accuse the …..US and India for having nefarious designs on Pakistan without offering an iota of evidence, but would get into a long navel-gazing exercise asking for proof of militant involvement in a terrorist attack.”” even though “”Determining which forces are hell-bent on mutilating the country is not rocket science.”

http://blog.dawn.com/2010/03/08/wake-up- punjab/

“””Punjab is suffering. And it is not only from extremist terrorism. It is as if every time its leadership and people attempt to awkwardly repress the obvious lashings of fear and confusion that cut viciously across the province whenever there is a terrorist attack, they become more vocal in their condemnation of the present government at the centre, incredibly investing more emotional and intellectual energy on abstract issues such as corruption, judiciary, and ‘good governance’ through passionate displays of TV studio and drawing-room nobility, rather than directly tackling their greatest enemy.

“””Funny thing is, they would readily accuse the president of corruption and the US and India for having nefarious designs on Pakistan without offering an iota of evidence, but would get into a long navel-gazing exercise asking for proof of militant involvement in a terrorist attack.

Again, why? Why in the Punjab? Are the Sindhis and Karachiites more enlightened, liberal, moderate or whatever? Some of my most intelligent friends are from the Punjab, as was my father. And so I keep asking these friends, why isn’t the Punjab fighting back this menace of extremism? Why have most of this province’s brightest minds allowed themselves to be pushed in the background by this new breed of neoconservative ‘intellectuals’ in the shape of TV talk show hosts, ‘journalists,’ ‘analysts,’ et al?

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