Comments on: Defining Pakistan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/03/15/defining-pakistan/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: KPSingh01 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/03/15/defining-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-28124 Sun, 21 Mar 2010 20:11:26 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4920#comment-28124 As the world becomes more modern, it is important not to found nations on ideologies. At some point, people end up being forced to follow the ideology and the country turns into dictatorship. This is true with every country that took the path of some ideology. USSR was basically an oligarchy with communist tyrants using military and spy agencies to wipe out dissidents and opponents. Communist China is no different. Many “Islamic Republics” are run by theocracy and Mullahs decide everything.

Pakistan was founded because Jinnah wanted to be a founder of a nation. He was the first one to use religious ideology to achieve his goal. To get there he had to trigger violence and mayhem. He knew that the memories of violence will help sustain exclusiveness of his people. He died and his successors went even further. They knew that their country was founded on Islamic ideology. But none of them really wanted to go back to the days of the prophet and start whacking people for not following Islamic rules. They wanted to party, sing, dance, celebrate and live just like anyone else. But Islam was used as a political weapon in order to keep patriotism and unity alive. To do that an enemy was essential. A “Hindu” India was the ideal enemy using which Pakistan has been revived and sustained. Anything Indian charges up the Pakistanis. They do not mind getting humiliated by anyone else. But India is always looked at as inferior and they have worked hard to keep that complex alive at all costs. So Pakistan’s existence relies on Indian presence. India is a convenient enemy and that’s all they’ve got. They have no other agenda like building their nation and growing up. Now they are blaming India for everything and are trying to be at war with India at all costs. And this paranoia has taken over their psyche completely. The only way this country will survive is by coming out of this imaginary phobia that they have created for themselves. And time is running out. Let us hope that their people realize where they are being misled and work together to build their nation.

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By: manishindia http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/03/15/defining-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-28121 Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:52:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4920#comment-28121 Myra,

This article factually projects the true and clear picture of today’s Pakistan. Though the efforts of people like Zaid Hamid are praise worthy . A large majority of youth are either uneducated or educated in madarsas where they have been brought up on an education of hate and fundamentalism , radical islam. It is incumbent upon the international community to seize control of Pakistan from the hands of its scrupulous and corrupt politicians and army , by installing a govt comprising of professionals, social workers, who can overhaul the education system of the country ,bring peace to Pakistan .

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By: RajeevK http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/03/15/defining-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-28110 Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:33:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4920#comment-28110 @I suggest good education system which teaches correct world knowledge without any prejudice unlike the madarasa systems. By this people themselves can judge and will have the ability to decide on facts.”
Posted by Pravinraje

—And this is where people make mistake that madarasa system is solely responsible for Pakistan’s current state. In reality it is the Pakistan Education Board does it systematically…K-12.

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By: Pravinraje http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/03/15/defining-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-28103 Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:20:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4920#comment-28103 Ohh I missed to mention…
Gem of an article :)
Thanks

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By: Pravinraje http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/03/15/defining-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-28102 Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:18:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4920#comment-28102 ……And then once, and only after, you have worked that out, how do you get there?

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Myra,

Well Myra,

The major difference between Indian and Pakistani ideologies today are because of what they have been taught in last 60 odd years. Otherwise we know that genetically we are same (unless there have been any genetic mutations in India/Pakistan in these 60 years :) ).
I suggest good education system which teaches correct world knowledge without any prejudice unlike the madarasa systems. By this people themselves can judge and will have the ability to decide on facts.

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By: Seth http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/03/15/defining-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-28100 Wed, 17 Mar 2010 05:29:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4920#comment-28100 >>How do you want Pakistan to turn out once all this is over?
A progressive liberal society whose primary identity & aspirations would be about their contribution in, then present, world and future to come.

>>What do we want the current generation of Pakistani youth to tell their children?
For short history – about how social & educational reforms happened in Pakistan that brought it back from the path of destructions.

Relatively long history – what ideology a state should never pursue and how and why not to breed hatred among their youth.

>>And then once, and only after, you have worked that out, how do you get there?
Brutal honesty with oneself (all 170 million + diaspora) and then educational reforms. How could it be otherwise?

Having said that, even when one has a detailed map and a clearly marked destination on that map, one may never reach that destination until one finds and realizes one’s present location on that map. Can Pakistani youth do that?

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By: RajeevK http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/03/15/defining-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-28098 Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:02:23 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4920#comment-28098 @Zaid Hamid is doing nothing more than using social media, Youtube, facebook twitter to promote his views and everyone in Pakistan has access to internet and cable TV with a free and vibrant media.”
—Umairpk

Umair: I know the ideology of Zaid Hamid and I know your views too. You like him or not, but I see more similarities than differences between you two. Both of you sing songs of PA, ignoring its negative role in the state of Pakistan. Both of you do not miss a chance to attack the politicians.

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By: RajeevK http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/03/15/defining-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-28094 Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:01:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4920#comment-28094 @Otherwise Pakistan will continue to suffer under the current system, many educated youth spend family savings on higher education only to find no or little jobs.”
—Umairpk

–Good thoughts over all. But what is your definition of “current system”. Is it just politicians/bureaucrats?
what has been the hindrance that political system that governs Pakistan is on crutches?

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By: Bharateey http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/03/15/defining-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-28092 Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:18:01 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4920#comment-28092 Pakistan’s foundations, it’s belief is all wrong. Pakistan will be eaten up by America… If not America then China… If not China then Arab world… If not either of all these then by itself by likes of Mullas and Moolawis trying to interpret the book. If not all this then mother nature and successive famine in the country will take care of Pakistanis.

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By: Umairpk http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/03/15/defining-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-28091 Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:12:24 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=4920#comment-28091 Pakistan is facing termendous challenges and these provide also great opportunities. Pakistan has a huge pool of human resources, if properly trained and skilled that can be turned into an asset. Already Pakistan has strong military, which is professional and trained. There is a need to expand the economy, invest in education and improve the health care system. Massive investment is required in energy sector and infrastructure, expand airports, ports, Motorways etc, dams. Most importantly educate the youth.

Zaid Hamid is doing nothing more than using social media, Youtube, facebook twitter to promote his views and everyone in Pakistan has access to internet and cable TV with a free and vibrant media. Why the Prime Minister do not have a page on You Tube, why the President cannot connect to youth. The leadership of the country must go to campuses meet the youth, listen to them. No corrupt politician can hide, no government incompetence can go unnoticed in these times. Judiciary is now independence and Army is more than willing to let the politicians govern the country. As Afghanistan is freed from foreign troops, Pakistan works with Afghanistan for its stability the future is bright. Pakistan’s youth has great potential, and will turn around the country. The corrupt politicians, bureaucracy and establishment should be stopped from plundering the country. Otherwise Pakistan will continue to suffer under the current system, many educated youth spend family savings on higher education only to find no or little jobs. Either migrate to Gulf states or elsewhere. Pakistan must create the capacity to absorb the educated in defferent sectors of the economy.

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