Comments on: India-Pakistan war games, and Cold Start http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/04/09/india-pakistan-war-games-and-cold-start/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: kEiThZ http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/04/09/india-pakistan-war-games-and-cold-start/comment-page-1/#comment-28542 Wed, 05 May 2010 15:38:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5092#comment-28542 Agree with Samnit. Cold Start was merely a buzzwords document that sought to bring the Indian Army into the 21st century by pursuing doctrinal change under the guise of politically relevant scenarios. It was supposed to take them from attrition warfare to mechanized warfare. Such doctrinal change was needed just for the Indian Army to stay current and relevant. But how do you sell government on the huge budgets needed to buy new armoured vehicles, attack helicopters, tanks, communication systems, etc.? You tell the politicians that their best way to combat terrorism is by a swift counter-attack with a heavily mechanized force. Whether it’s actually true or not is irrelevant. This is institutional politics.

Pakistan, of course, made hay of it, because it was free PR for them. They get to once again, complain about the “militaristic” and “war-mongering” Indians. And it’s quite likely that the green suits from Rawalpindi are genuinely worried that they are reaching tipping point in the strategic balance where India will now gain a qualitative edge in addition to its existing quantitative edge.

There is absolutely no way the PA can keep up with a heavily mechanized Indian Army that has been well sychronized with the IAF. The Indians know this. The Pakistanis know this. The rest of the world knows this. But the only the Pakistanis can prevent this inevitable reality is to engage in PR that results in diplomatic pressure on India to cut back on defence modernization or to scare vendor nations such that other countries refuse to sell India the equipment they need. Unfortunately, if all the recent US-India and Europe-India arms deals are any indication, Pakistan has failed miserably to convince anybody that India is a threat.

And the worst part for Pakistan is that vendor nations just aren’t interested in parity in South Asia anymore. They accept the pre-eminence of India. And ever since the AQ Khan gambit and because of its dealings with China, there’s no way anybody (but the Chinese) will sell Pakistan the latest technology. They may sell Pakistan F-16s. But they’ll offer India the version that’s faster, has longer range, a higher payload and a more powerful radar. And that’s how it’s going to be from now on.

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By: grey_on_all http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/04/09/india-pakistan-war-games-and-cold-start/comment-page-1/#comment-28399 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 06:32:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5092#comment-28399 Pakistan needs to do only one thing to come out of where they are now. “”Plan their priorities””.

They shoudl ask themselves whats it that the country is in urgent need of?

Do they wanna come over the economic, political and social issues? or do they just wanna persue their old motivations? that is to continue their sibling rivalry with Big bro India.

Pak needs to not think of the competition with India(Its nowhere near India anyways) for sometime. They need to shelve the mission ‘frustate India by all means’ for sometime. I dont say scrap it. Pak politics needs this for its survival, to woo the common man. But postpone all this for later. Get in shape first.

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By: KPSingh01 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/04/09/india-pakistan-war-games-and-cold-start/comment-page-1/#comment-28391 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 13:21:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5092#comment-28391 GW,

Things are beginning to look better. Pakistan has managed to revert back to the 1973 constitution which has clipped the wings of the Presidential powers. As I see it, Pakistan is undergoing a tug of war between the Zia era radicals and progressives who see the danger their country is facing. Therefore you see the country see-sawing between positive and negative moves. Because of the US presence and its insistence on substantive measures, the positive side seems to be gaining. Radical elements inside the ISI are still present and they will try to derail things from time to time. Things are still on the edge. But the good people in Pakistan should win and reset everything that has been done so far that has set the country towards self-destruction. They have a good Prime Minister in Gilani who emerged from out of nowhere. Hopefully Pakistan will undergo a transition for good and the sensible people get control over everything. That is the only thing that can ensure peace in the region. Just give them some time. They seem to be trying.

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By: G-W http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/04/09/india-pakistan-war-games-and-cold-start/comment-page-1/#comment-28388 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:28:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5092#comment-28388 India has to be worried about a collapsing Pakistan. The only thing keeping it together is its hate for India and INdians.

Rogue nukes are a possibility, if Pakistan starts to disintegrate and if it does, it will be rapid and unstoppable by anybody, especially the Pakistani military.

India needs to protect itself from rogue military elements that may use disintegration and chaos as an excuse to inflict an opportunistic wound on India, knowing that Pakistan is on a collision course with disintegration.

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/04/09/india-pakistan-war-games-and-cold-start/comment-page-1/#comment-28385 Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:52:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5092#comment-28385 So much, for the Pakistani Army’s sincerity in fighting terrorism!

“U.S. officials say Pakistani spy agency released Afghan Taliban insurgents” – Washington Post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con tent/article/2010/04/10/AR2010041002111. html

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By: SZaman88 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/04/09/india-pakistan-war-games-and-cold-start/comment-page-1/#comment-28384 Mon, 12 Apr 2010 08:37:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5092#comment-28384 Perhaps the military exercises in both the countries are part of a routine and are not intended to offend the integrity of each other. It is also important to keep peace in the region, as both the countries have already suffered from the menace of terrorism.

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By: grey_on_all http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/04/09/india-pakistan-war-games-and-cold-start/comment-page-1/#comment-28382 Mon, 12 Apr 2010 05:25:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5092#comment-28382 KPSingh01: The ‘War likeness’ is what keeps the southAsian politics going. If there is no war situation and all the hoopla around it, politics suffer in Pakistan as well as in India.

HaqsMusings said: “Misjudgments and miscalculations could cause any conflict to rapidly spin out of control and devastate the entire region”

Bull.. nothing happens.. guys, stop thinking so dramatic. Both the countries lacks the inspiration as well as gutts to actually rain havoc on the other. Its just not politically beneficial for any of them. Its just the anticipation and the fear of war thats of use, not war itself.

Its only those psychopathic Talibanis who can be thought of doing stupid stuff like these. Coz, these fellows are religiously motivated for real. They mean business, they mean anhilation of the infidels.

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By: KPSingh01 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/04/09/india-pakistan-war-games-and-cold-start/comment-page-1/#comment-28381 Sun, 11 Apr 2010 22:08:37 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5092#comment-28381 People and media should not be talking about war scenarios. We should be talking about peaceful coexistence and ways to find solutions to existing issues. Military think tanks across the globe discuss different scenarios. It is their job even during peace times. But that should not translate into a real life situation. If missiles and cyber attacks are the future, then there is no hope for the people of South Asia. Is this what some of you like? If a threat arises, each nation has its own way of dealing with it. We should never desire for such a situation. Nuclear war will decimate the entire sub-continent and there will be nothing left after that. Is this what nations are founded for? Understand this – we are being manipulated. Our emotions are being exploited. We need to wake up and do the right thing. It is all right to have sophisticated military equipment, training etc to protect one’s nation. But countries should not be itching to use them. War is the last option and not a solution. This is not a game that we are playing. Instead of wasting resources on digging trenches, Pakistan should start working towards building the nation and provide employment to its youth. India is not a country today that will waste its energy and resources in attacking other countries. It is important not to provoke nations into waging wars and then using that as an excuse to build more weapons and defense equipment. Pakistan has done only this and nothing else since its birth. It is time countries learned to co-exist. You got your nukes by hook or crook. Everyone accepts that. Now keep them. No one is going to attack your nation. That deterrence should be good enough to turn around and focus the energy towards nation building. Nuclear weapons are meant for protection and not for threatening others and waging proxy wars based on the security that they provide.

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By: HaqsMusings http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/04/09/india-pakistan-war-games-and-cold-start/comment-page-1/#comment-28380 Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:33:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5092#comment-28380 In addition to the kind of conventional warfare fought in 1965 and 1971, any future India-Pakistan war is likely to have two new components of cyber war and missiles war.

The potential cyber component will have a dramatic impact which could reverberate across the globe as the computers used in South Asia for outsourced work from the United States and Europe come under crippling attacks from hackers on both sides.

Ballistic missile warfare between next door rivals with only a few minutes travel time to major targets, including population centers, will also change the game dramatically. This leaves the two nations with little margin of error. Misjudgments and miscalculations could cause any conflict to rapidly spin out of control and devastate the entire region.

http://www.riazhaq.com/2010/04/cyber-thr eats-across-china-india-and.html

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By: Seekeroftruth http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/04/09/india-pakistan-war-games-and-cold-start/comment-page-1/#comment-28379 Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:00:56 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5092#comment-28379 INDIAFIRSTHAND writes “When are we going to start solving the real issues”.

Indian Govt HAS been working on solving “real issues” for 63 years. Many things it could have done better.

In your condescencion it seems pakistani jihadi terrorism and war mongering are not “real issues” it seems. Tackling pakistani army jihadi terrorist complex is ONE of the “real issues” facing India and the govt is appropriately handling or struggling to deal with pakistani terrorism and war mongering.

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