Comments on: India and Pakistan agree to hold more talks: now comes the hard part http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/04/29/india-and-pakistan-agree-to-hold-more-talks-now-comes-the-hard-part/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: G-W http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/04/29/india-and-pakistan-agree-to-hold-more-talks-now-comes-the-hard-part/comment-page-1/#comment-28484 Sat, 01 May 2010 16:39:54 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5202#comment-28484 @Umair,

Yes, I agree with you, India and Pakistan have issues to work out, but with regards to water, you Pakistanis had decades to build damns and address water management and time and money to build piping networks and infrastructure in your cities. You fools wasted all that money on making bullets, bombs and weapons, rather than the punjabi’s investing in their own people, the uniformed punjabis of Pindi and Islamabad looked after themselves first, as always.

You cannot flat-out boldly deny that your Army has sucked so much money to fatten its own waistline, using a fictitious war with India and at the same time, starving Pakistan of critical functions like water, education, infrastructure and the like.

It is time to redefine Pakistan’s problem. Pakistan’s problem is not one of water, RAW, India, Israel or the U.S., or even so much of the Terrorists either, at the core of all of Pakistani’s mismanagement and woes are the Punjabi Elite, who can’t run a country, nor can they create consensus for political stability, even using India as some sort of horned and fanged entity, it is still not enough.

At the end of the day, Pakistan will never rise from the ashes unless the Punjabi Raj in Pakistan comes to an end and proper democracy allows representation by population and equalization results in a greater voice for all ethnicities in Pakistan.

Sorry Umair, until you “lafang” and “babe-coof” Punjabis step aside, and let true democracy take place, you Punjabi’s will keep finding selfish ways to fail your fellow Pakistani and make Pakistan look stupid and foolish.

It is time to quit blaming India, Israel, the U.S. and outside forces for all the problems in Pakistan, the Punjabi’s fearless campaign of blaming others for all of Pakistani’s problems has to come to an end.

It is time Pakistan becomes for ALL Pakistani’s not just the privileged Punjabi’s and their military friends.

The punjabi’s have wasted Pakistan’s true potential on making bombs and terrorism. Its hard to tell how far Pakistan could have gone since partition, had the Pak Punjabi’s not wasted so much money, time and energy on useless endeavors to look after themselves first and use the politics of Islam and racial superiority to impose rule on others there.

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By: manishindia http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/04/29/india-and-pakistan-agree-to-hold-more-talks-now-comes-the-hard-part/comment-page-1/#comment-28482 Fri, 30 Apr 2010 14:30:37 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5202#comment-28482 it is overwhelmingly Indian view not to start any dialogue with Pakistan, if Singh has started this dialogue, he is doing at his own peril. He is definitely not acting in Indian interest . Definitely he is not serving Indian interest, is he then serving interest of his foreign master ? Or is he eying a vote bank?

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By: KPSingh01 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/04/29/india-and-pakistan-agree-to-hold-more-talks-now-comes-the-hard-part/comment-page-1/#comment-28480 Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:36:54 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5202#comment-28480 Looks like Pak military has to let its investment and assets sink once more.They are now facing the situation of going after their hidden assets in North Waziristan. The dog and pony show in South Waziristan did not convince the Americans much. So “they have realized on their own” that those hiding there are bad. All these years they did not get a chance to realize that (LOL).

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/30/world/ asia/30pstan.html?hp

So Pak military will start announcing the dates and fixtures for the next “attack” in North Waziristan. This will give enough time for the “assets” to relocate, leaving dummies to face the mighty Pak military. Then the area will be cleared. Anyone who is shot will be declared a terrorist. Then credible writers from the Western media will be taken there on a tour to take pictures and write how beautiful and wonderful the place is and how it is not what Kipling and other liars have said. Then the case will be closed and Pak military will get more military hardware and money.

What a farce! In the meantime, the civil diplomats in India and Pakistan will be running another show to please the US state department until the next terrorist strike somewhere in India. And it will be timed in order to take away the attention from North Waziristan.

Doesn’t this sound familiar? Haven’t we seen this before? Deja Vu indeed.

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By: grey_on_all http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/04/29/india-and-pakistan-agree-to-hold-more-talks-now-comes-the-hard-part/comment-page-1/#comment-28479 Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:12:20 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5202#comment-28479 Umair,

Kashmir is India’s issue, and not one ‘between’ India and Pak. Pak has nothing whatsoever to do with kashmir.

“Indian sponsored terrorism in Baluchistan” ..

Ha ha ha.. how we Indian’s long for a day when the RAW will actually give back ISI their own medicine by doing stuff like these. But its just a dream. Our RAW officers are bit too lazy for such ‘extra curicular activities’ :(

you get my point? anyways, thanks for the baluch idea. lets just hope the next governing party carries this forward to reality.

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By: SZaman88 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/04/29/india-and-pakistan-agree-to-hold-more-talks-now-comes-the-hard-part/comment-page-1/#comment-28478 Fri, 30 Apr 2010 08:30:20 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5202#comment-28478 It appears we are still not willing to resume talks, because in order to do that it is important to forgive and forget the mistakes occurred in the past. This will provide room to resume talks and solve the issues that have been the bone of contention between the two countries.

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By: manishindia http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/04/29/india-and-pakistan-agree-to-hold-more-talks-now-comes-the-hard-part/comment-page-1/#comment-28477 Fri, 30 Apr 2010 06:35:03 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5202#comment-28477 Myra,

As an aftermath of Mumbai attack ,26/11, India took stand of discontinuing any peace dialogue till all the guilty and perpetrators are brought to book . India also demanded Pakistan must not allow its soil for launching terror attacks inside India . With this meeting of Indian and Pakistani Prime Ministers in Bhutan, whether Pakistan has agreed to act on Indian demands and if not , is there any change in Indian stands on terror attacks launched by Pakistanis ? Whether Singh is acting in national interest or he is serving interests of his foreign masters ?

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/04/29/india-and-pakistan-agree-to-hold-more-talks-now-comes-the-hard-part/comment-page-1/#comment-28472 Fri, 30 Apr 2010 04:37:25 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5202#comment-28472 Myra,

When you write about the accusations being leveled by the Pakistanis that India is actively involved in de-stabbilizing Pakistan, wouldn’t it be fair for you to also mention that so far, there is not an iota of evidence to substantiate the Pakistani claim?
Also, when you mention about the Indian claim that the ISI was involved in the attacks on Indian interests in Afghanistan, shouldn’t you mention that the US officials also agree with the Indians on this?

Please quit being a Pakistan apoligist and state the facts as they are and not as the Pakistanis want you to see them.

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/04/29/india-and-pakistan-agree-to-hold-more-talks-now-comes-the-hard-part/comment-page-1/#comment-28471 Fri, 30 Apr 2010 04:21:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5202#comment-28471 @ “Kashmir remains the core issue between the two countries, followed by Siachin, water and Indian sponsored terrorism in Baluchistan. Unless these problems are confronted squarely the relations between the two nations will remain soured” Posted by Umairpk

Yeah right, these fantasies, distortions & propaganda based falsehoods are the real issues between India & Pakistan while the reality of terrorism conducted by Pakistani state & non-state acrors in India is an absolutely non-issue. How convenient!

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By: KPSingh01 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/04/29/india-and-pakistan-agree-to-hold-more-talks-now-comes-the-hard-part/comment-page-1/#comment-28469 Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:39:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5202#comment-28469 The article mentioned below should be amusing to those who think all is quite well with Pakistan.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr  /29/pakistan-punjab-taliban

Pak military has apparently moved another 100000 soldiers from its Eastern border today. There must be something terrible going on that they cannot spell out yet.

I am betting on who and when the diplomatic process will be derailed by the radical elements inside Pakistan – anyone wants to bet? Hakimullah Mehsud is alive and well. So things are looking up for Pakistan. Umair must be celebrating. Myra might write on how Punjab looks like Switzerland next.

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By: Seekeroftruth http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/04/29/india-and-pakistan-agree-to-hold-more-talks-now-comes-the-hard-part/comment-page-1/#comment-28468 Thu, 29 Apr 2010 20:59:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5202#comment-28468 Is this artilce written by Myra? I don’t see the author’s name.

Anyways I agree with KPSingh. The article almost sounds like some thing written in one of the new numerous internet “newspapers” floated by PA, ISI.

Otherwise the article is also notable for amusement value such as “muslim kashmir” should have been part of pakistan. “Muslim” bangladesh got out, “muslim” balochistan wants out, “muslims” pastunistan wants out…LOL! “muslim” sindh, “muslim’ punjab are all mess on life support from the west.

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