Comments on: Guest contribution-The United States and Pakistan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/05/13/guest-contribution-the-united-states-and-pakistan/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: mirzausman http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/05/13/guest-contribution-the-united-states-and-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-29760 Tue, 22 Jun 2010 23:50:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5342#comment-29760 —-Ooh la la!

Rajeev, is this what you say to the other male dancers?

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By: pakistan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/05/13/guest-contribution-the-united-states-and-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-28883 Wed, 02 Jun 2010 21:16:20 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5342#comment-28883 The commentry is hillarious to its utmost. i am trying to remember the latin sentence about the Roman empire;
Roma duit fluid, nunc potens minus est.
I am not sure about the spelling accuracy, but the translation is that ROME FLOURISHED LONG, NOW IT HAS LOST ITS POWER:
Gentlemen, this is what the status of the USA is. the rag tag leftover advisers of the George W together with the clintonians headed by the “yes we Can” and the wall street locusts ( ‘heuoschrecken’ in German). You guy till believe that the USA has the metal to threaten the military with nukes and missiles, not forgetting the Indian born military chief who was cowed by the afro american opposite number, has left the country.
The Pashtoon taliban eagles have exposed to the world and the Afghan Govt. their capability against the US marines and the NATO armada. The Tallibans are refusing the peace talk offer by the USA and MNr Karzai. The lady is likely to be fired by the ” We can” Mr Obama since she has not managed to improve the USA image in the world. In fact their allies including Turkey Japan and Germany want the USA baggage out of their country now.

Gen. Kyani can hold on to the use of his tactics until the new man takes the helms of the military. Comparing to his predecessor he has at least kept his attention away from its neighbour and big brother India.
Rex Minor

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By: 007XXX http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/05/13/guest-contribution-the-united-states-and-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-28866 Wed, 02 Jun 2010 14:52:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5342#comment-28866 After reading all the comments here…one thing is absolutely sure that this author is on Pakistan’s payroll…but this is also true that Pakistan is fighting the battle of its survival out of its skins…its sad to c the brave sons of pakistan die like this…but this was to happen one day…one gets what one sows…america got a taste of its own medicine (of creating bin laden to counter USSR) on 9/11 and now its pakistan’s turn to taste its own medicine of brooming terrorism…its bitter but its the truth…for people like Umair I am more sympathatic with him rather than like most people here who ridicule him…Sympathetic because he is young and still he believes in lies of Pak administration….If the youth of the nation is misled like this then one must know that nation is in grave danger because the bulk of human energy is directed to self destruction…and i dont know when the hell pakistanis (common man and administration both) will realize that their one and only honest hope is peace with India…the day Pakistan makes peace with India its problems will start getting solved…yes it is better to trade with India and mutually progress rather than live on US alms and be dictated and insulted by them on a regular basis…I hope one day youth of pakistan sees thru the lies of their PA and ISI and joins Indian hand of friendship…hence I do agree with Clinton…Pakistanis need to do more!!!

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By: RajeevK http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/05/13/guest-contribution-the-united-states-and-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-28803 Sat, 29 May 2010 14:37:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5342#comment-28803 @Enjoy while you think Pakistan is a miserable things, i would say Pakistan is the best kept secret of the world. Its good that you guys are not fully aware of us, sometimes they say ignorance is a blessing, seems true in your case.
Posted by Umairpk

—-Ooh la la!

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By: kEiThZ http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/05/13/guest-contribution-the-united-states-and-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-28704 Wed, 19 May 2010 15:10:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5342#comment-28704 Umair wrote:

“fix your hell hole first then point fingers towards us”
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And yet the majority of your countrymen, if they were given a US visa tomorrow, would take the first flight out of Pakistan to the US that they could.

If you think the US is a hellhole with 100 times the per capita GDP (while in a recession), decade longer life expectancy, significantly higher education levels, much lower levels of income distribution disparities, better infrastructure, and better social services, then pray tell how you describe Pakistan?

The US has its problems to be sure. But don’t get cocky. You aren’t in their league. Actually, you aren’t even playing the same sport. When you catch up to Greece, maybe then we’ll talk.

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By: kEiThZ http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/05/13/guest-contribution-the-united-states-and-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-28703 Wed, 19 May 2010 15:01:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5342#comment-28703 Umair,

Your constant threats of nuclear attacks are just hilarious. It’s the kind of threat a grade school kid would make.

Anyway, it’ll never come to pass. Forget an official strike. If a nuke was used against western forces and it was somehow traced back to Pakistan, that alone would be the end of Pakistan.

They US would not even need to attack Pakistan. A month long blockade by the US Navy would bring Pakistan to its knees.

To the rest,

Brian Cloughey’s record as Pakistani shill is well known. Reuters throws him in once in a while to stir the pot. Take it for what it is.

I am sure he represents the Pakistani view well. However, Pakistanis should understand that they aren’t in the driver’s seat any more. The gave up control, the day their proxies started causing trouble for the US (long before 9/11). Now, regardless, of what happens in Afghanistan, the Americans will get a say in running Pakistan. And if Pakistanis don’t like it, they are always free to pass up on the only country that gives them aid (for all that talk about China and Russia, they are in reality never nearly as generous as the US,and the rest of the West). There is absolutely no way Pakistan can survive without aid. I am doubtful at this point that cohesion of the state could be maintained without significant foreign assistance. Think of all the projects being undertaken in far flung regions. Clinics and school and roads in NWFP and Balochistan. That is all from Western aid. And that’s holding Pakistan together. If their pride is an issue, Pakistanis are free to pass the aid up and risk the cohesion of their state. Nobody said they never had a choice.

But this tiresome act (put on well here by Mr. Cloughey) of taking the aid with one hand then complaining about having to their share is reminiscent of children who think that they can tell their parents that they don’t need to eat their vegetables and do their homework before they go play outside. Were Pakistanis more mature and if they took more responsibility for their fate and the problems inside their country, the relationship wouldn’t be so lobsided. But it is what it is and so the US will continue to treat Pakistan like the petulant problem child that it is.

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/05/13/guest-contribution-the-united-states-and-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-28691 Sun, 16 May 2010 19:07:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5342#comment-28691 Another good one by Nadeem Pracha (Dawn)

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn -content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/colu mnists/19-nadeem-f-paracha-the-sinking-m iddleground-650-hh-02

An excerpt:

“While actors like the 7/7 bombers and Faisal Shahzad are an obvious embarrassment to Pakistan and to the Pakistani communities in the West, so are the growing number of rabid, tech-savvy young people floating around various interactive websites to mouth the most obnoxious ideas about Islam and politics. There are websites out there glorifying utter mad men and the most twisted conspiracy theories, and many of these are owned, run and frequented by Pakistanis who work and are comfortably settled in western countries”

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/05/13/guest-contribution-the-united-states-and-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-28689 Sun, 16 May 2010 03:25:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5342#comment-28689 @ “Come on man, I am waisting my time arguing with an ignorant moron” Posted by Umairpk

Easy with the “ignorant moron” stuff, wise boy. I can also play the name-calling game & with a lot more ingeniousness & creativity, mind you. So for your sake, lets just keep this conversation, impersonal. As for your invitation, I would like visit Pakistan some day since my ancestors hailed from there but I don’t think it’s a good idea for an american of Indian origin to be there right now. Hey, if I convert to judaism, I’d be the perfect target, an American Indian Jew lol.
Anyways, your argument that anyone who’s not present in Pakistan doesen’t know what’s going on there is quite frivolous & ineffectual, especially in this day & age. You’re basically discrediting all the Pakistani & global media, who report anything on Pakistan & that’s quite insensate. When I or others refer to Pakistanis, we’re not reffering to the condition of an individual like yourself but rather that of the common man. You maybe fortunate enough to be born in a family that enjoys the comforts & luxuries of life but a vast majority of Pakistanis are fighting for their survival & struggling to afford the basic amenities of life. That’s a fact, whether you like it or not & whether you accept it or not.

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By: Umairpk http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/05/13/guest-contribution-the-united-states-and-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-28688 Sat, 15 May 2010 20:27:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5342#comment-28688 Mortal1
I would restate, the kind of an ignorant moron you are, walk to the Pakistani consulate general in NY, get a visa stamped on your passport and buy a ticket to Islamabad jump into a flight and i will welocme you here. Then we will drive around and you must show me the kind of misery or mess we are in.
Leave your laptop and I am not interested in your zillion links. Self proclaimed fortune tellers were even telling last year that within 6 months Pakistan will no more be on the world map.
Come on man, I am waisting my time arguing with an ignorant moron.

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/05/13/guest-contribution-the-united-states-and-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-28687 Sat, 15 May 2010 20:12:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5342#comment-28687 @ Umair

Feel free to refute any of my “ignorant” comments with any facts that you may have, any time. It is indeed pointless to argue when you have little or no facts to back up your points. This is the age of global communication & internet. No country is isolated & everyone knows what’s going on everywhere, so Pakistan is hardly a secret. I can give a zillion links right here to show the state of affairs of your country but it’s not needed since everyone already knows what it is. Now, you personally might be doing alright but the condition of your country is quite troublesome & serious. I don’t say that but various ecconomists, scholars & intellectuals of your own country do.
Also, despite what you may think, I don’t enjoy your misery. In fact, I have empathy for you & your countrymen & sincerely hope that you guys can get out of the mess created by your establishment.

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