Comments on: Kashmir protests: another tragedy of timing http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/07/06/kashmir-protests-another-tragedy-of-timing/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: KINGFISHER http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/07/06/kashmir-protests-another-tragedy-of-timing/comment-page-5/#comment-32518 Sun, 19 Sep 2010 22:17:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5677#comment-32518 Well, India has ultimately come down to her own original tactics of killing own citizens and blaming the neighboring country.

Is it not a shame for all democratic countries to see their beloved largest democracy killing own citizens like birds. After all is it because they all are Muslims and are not Hindus so it goes along with the governments policy to kill and kill to the entire satisfaction of Indian government.

It is a matter to be thought why, Human Rights commission is silent and has not declared this mass murder of unarmed innocent civilians to over 100 by police firing. What else will it be called birthday party killing for welcoming the government blood bath murder plan of Muslims to silence the demand of the Kashmir people forever with the participation of the Human Rights commission.. .

I think world wide demonstrations against this illegal killing should be staged to demonstrate India is committing Genocide in Kashmir similar to Sudan and it needs to be stopped with and iron hand by UN.

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By: KINGFISHER http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/07/06/kashmir-protests-another-tragedy-of-timing/comment-page-5/#comment-32322 Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:52:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5677#comment-32322 Having gone through the article and in it read the Ministry’s version wish speaks exactly like Israel used the certificate of “In Self Defense” Given to them by the ex-President of Us which ultimately landed them to become Genocide committal criminals.

The Indians got the certificate of Pakistan’s Laskar-e-Taiaba issued by the Human Rights Commission to mention to stop the World community’s mouth shut and kill as many as Kashmiri Muslim India need to kill. The Human Rights Commission will never inquire into.

The Fact as in on record never the Human Rights Commission inquired into the killing that went on by India even those politically sponsored. Why was not inquired? Will the Human Right Commission be gracious enough to kindly mind to reply in detail in righting for the kind information of the world forum?

However, there is allegation that all these years India invested huge amount to keep Human Rights commission silent on these killing and not to inquire.

Political Observers opined henceforth all killings of Kashmiri Muslims be inquired by Human Right Commission to find if crime against Humanity was committed by Indian Force. If found positive then appropriate case of genocide were started without, fail.

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By: KINGFISHER http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/07/06/kashmir-protests-another-tragedy-of-timing/comment-page-5/#comment-32321 Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:52:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5677#comment-32321 Having gone through the article and in it read the Ministry’s version wish speaks exactly like Israel used the certificate of “In Self Defense” Given to them by the ex-President of Us which ultimately landed them to become Genocide committal criminals.

The Indians got the certificate of Pakistan’s Laskar-e-Taiaba issued by the Human Rights Commission to mention to stop the World community’s mouth shut and kill as many as Kashmiri Muslim India need to kill. The Human Rights Commission will never inquire into.

The Fact as in on record never the Human Rights Commission inquired into the killing that went on by India even those politically sponsored. Why was not inquired? Will the Human Right Commission be gracious enough to kindly mind to reply in detail in righting for the kind information of the world forum?

However, there is allegation that all these years India invested huge amount to keep Human Rights commission silent on these killing and not to inquire.

Political Observers opined henceforth all killings of Kashmiri Muslims be inquired by Human Right Commission to find if crime against Humanity was committed by Indian Force. If found positive then appropriate case of genocide were started without, fail.

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By: RajeevK http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/07/06/kashmir-protests-another-tragedy-of-timing/comment-page-5/#comment-31209 Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:17:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5677#comment-31209 @Looks like some people have too much time to comment on this post than work for a living.”
-Posted by kusum79

—Thanks for the introduction and letting us know what you do err don’t.

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By: kusum79 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/07/06/kashmir-protests-another-tragedy-of-timing/comment-page-5/#comment-31148 Tue, 27 Jul 2010 05:50:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5677#comment-31148 Looks like some people have too much time to comment on this post than work for a living. It is something similar with the people of Kashmir, they have too many privileges and dont need to think about earning enough through legitimate means to keep their family going, hence all this. India should remove all the privileges that it gives to Kashmiris, give them a taste of the Talibani rule or the Chinese rule that they are so dying for (because if independent, they will either be taken over by China or Pakistan=Taliban).

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By: RajeevK http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/07/06/kashmir-protests-another-tragedy-of-timing/comment-page-5/#comment-30979 Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:14:26 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5677#comment-30979 RexMinor:
@I fully agree with the last sentence of your comments. ”

The last sentence was:
@But to me China is a nation and they need to sort out problems just like any other country need to do.”

—So like Chinese, who need to take care of minorities, India, Pakistan etc are also nations. How much each nation has succeeded and failed can be left to analysts.

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By: pakistan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/07/06/kashmir-protests-another-tragedy-of-timing/comment-page-5/#comment-30972 Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:21:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5677#comment-30972 @Rajeevk
I fully agree with the last sentence of your comments. It does not matter about my definition of a Nation, we have to look towards the world wide acceptance of a Nation, bound by its institutions and the constitution, secular or some other form, the cohesiveness must be there without apartheied or straight slavery. Democracy is also not static, it is a process, each country without interference of others should be allowed to sort out their domestic issues. Yes, the problem is that many fail and start commiting atrocities against their own citizens to the extent of ethnic cleansing and this becomes the concern of the world and no longer the country’s internal affair. China was wrong to use their principle in the case of kosovo, regarding Serbia’s sovereignstatus.After all we are all human species and do get involöved and try to protect even a wife from her husband and a child from his own parents if there is a continued violence. Countries become failed states and loose any right to rule them. Such countries had not achieved the status of a NATION. If China is unable to sort out the mess in their muslim province then they have no right to hang on to the province. I am sure Chinese Govt. is conscous of their responsibility.
Rex Minor

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By: RajeevK http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/07/06/kashmir-protests-another-tragedy-of-timing/comment-page-5/#comment-30935 Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:19:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5677#comment-30935 Mr Minor:

My point was to challenge China as a “nation” under your definition since China does not care about minorities. 90% Han is what matters to China, rest all—10% of chinese population is a lot—are minority. In my experience, I have seen Chinse around me using this term “minority” very frequently. So this shows up at people level–based on my limited interaction with 100s of Chinese. China is not looking for democracy since they have reached here without democracy and want to be without it. Those who want democracy in China are found handing out flyers in the USA for their movement since they are thrown out of China.

If Chinese are not for democracy, it is not a bad thing if that works for them. You can split hair on this and that democracy. Chinese are allergic to the word democracy since communism and now unofficial capitalism is what has made their country great, not democracy.

Going back to the original point, if until Minorities are given equal status and taken care off China should not be called a nation (by ur definition). you say democracy is must for protection of minorities. So let us not call China as a nation until they achieve democracy, Also let us not called Chinese army as Nationalist Army until minorities are take care off. The country under discussion is China—not USA nor India.

But to me China is a nation and they need to sort out problems just like any other country need to do.

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By: pakistan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/07/06/kashmir-protests-another-tragedy-of-timing/comment-page-5/#comment-30901 Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:14:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5677#comment-30901 @RajeevK
Sorry i did not think you were referring to Chinese on minority rights. Besides the Chinese there are many in the world who do not understand the definition’democracy’. India also has their form of democracy and in europe there is a different form of democracy. Since we are conversing in English language we are using the word democracy which from my memory was born in Greece. Remember, China became a cohesive Nation during communism and to go all out for democracy the Nation would split further. We already have Taiwan and Hongkong! So therefore the approach to china is to discuss human rights first, and then take them slowly and slowly towards democracy. The recent German chancellor’s visit was used to tell the Chinese PM about the extention of human rights to all. Sorry, you are not a believer, but in the three religions of the book it is the God’s commandment to treat others as equals, as you would like to be treated by them, something along the lines. Once you achieve this, one is bound to have equal rights for all citizens. Incidently What is the treatment of minorities in India? China is definitely not going to follow the anglo saxon or the european model of democracies. What matters is the human rights, and that should be the basis for a society and we as the people need to agree on “what the human rights are”. For example in Germany “the right to work is guaranteed in the constitution. Is this the case in the UK or USA? I doubt it. I wish India nd Pakistan could follow the non-interference policy of China as well, but this is not their fault since they inherited it from the colonialists. You tell the USA administration not to interfere in the domestic affairs of other countries, this would sound very foreign to them. How could they survive without interference. Why are they called Gringos and hated by all the south american countries. It is a shame for I have found americans in many parts of the USA the most friendly, generous and hospitable people in the world. Just imagine the marshall plan they developed to reconstruct Germany the enemy they destroyed first. Without the marshal plan Germany would have required many more years for recovery.
Rex Minor

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By: RajeevK http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/07/06/kashmir-protests-another-tragedy-of-timing/comment-page-5/#comment-30892 Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:19:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5677#comment-30892 RexMinor:

My qn was: Do minorities In China have equal rights?

You said:

“In democracy the minorities usually have equal rights. The chinese have not yet completed the democritization process.”

—100s of Chinese that I met hate the word “democracy”.

Good luck expecting minorties in China having equal rights since China is not aiming for democracy. Then that kills China as nation by ur definition since minorities are not protected.

I am for India/Pak non interference in each others’s domestic policies of other countries.

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