Comments on: On WikiLeaks, Pakistan and Afghanistan; the tip of an old iceberg http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/07/28/on-wikileaks-pakistan-and-afghanistan-the-tip-of-an-old-iceberg/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: G-W http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/07/28/on-wikileaks-pakistan-and-afghanistan-the-tip-of-an-old-iceberg/comment-page-3/#comment-31352 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 13:57:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5845#comment-31352 typo:

“Please avoid this topic no further and address it.”

should read

“Please do not avoid this top any longer and address it”

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By: G-W http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/07/28/on-wikileaks-pakistan-and-afghanistan-the-tip-of-an-old-iceberg/comment-page-3/#comment-31351 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 13:56:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5845#comment-31351 @Myra,

Time for a fair and open discussion on the Kashmir issue. But this time, we would like to see an essay on Pakistan occupied Kashmir.

Rajeev and others like Keithz have repeatedly brought up some significant points of mention, namely:

1)Pakistan has not complied with 1948 UN resolutions
2)Pakistan requires all elected officials in PoK to pledge allegiance to Pakistan

The list goes on. Kashmir can be solved, but Pakistan occupied Kashmir MUST be given its time under the sunshine Myra.

Indian administered Kashmir has been microscoped to death here as well as by other Reuters Writer.

Let’s be fair here and equally scrutinize to the same depth Pakistan occupied Kashmir.

That is what we owe Kashmiri’s, a fair discussion of their future from both sides of the LOC.

Let’s give them that openness and fairness. Is that not the purpose of Journalists, to disseminate the truth.

Please avoid this topic no further and address it.

Thanks

Myra

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By: RajeevK http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/07/28/on-wikileaks-pakistan-and-afghanistan-the-tip-of-an-old-iceberg/comment-page-3/#comment-31347 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 08:07:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5845#comment-31347 Pakistan requires all elected officials from “Azad Kashmir” to pledge their allegience to Pakistan before they take office. If they refuse to do so, they are not allowed to take office. That tells a lot about Pakistan’s idea of “Azadi” (independence) for Kashmir.
Posted by Mortal1

Maybe if we raped and murdered them by the thousands they could be considered azad by world-best indian standards.
Posted by tupak_shakir

–Do you think by saying so, you have refuted Mortal’s point?

BTW, these shenanigans of “azad Kashmir” are in Pakistan, in India we call Kashmir as integral part of India.

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By: tupak_shakir http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/07/28/on-wikileaks-pakistan-and-afghanistan-the-tip-of-an-old-iceberg/comment-page-3/#comment-31341 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 04:14:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5845#comment-31341 Pakistan requires all elected officials from “Azad Kashmir” to pledge their allegience to Pakistan before they take office. If they refuse to do so, they are not allowed to take office. That tells a lot about Pakistan’s idea of “Azadi” (independence) for Kashmir.

— Maybe if we raped and murdered them by the thousands they could be considered azad by world-best indian standards.

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/07/28/on-wikileaks-pakistan-and-afghanistan-the-tip-of-an-old-iceberg/comment-page-3/#comment-31340 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 03:16:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5845#comment-31340 “Pakistan’s overt and covert designs in Kashmir are simply not in doubt. But my feeling is that sitting on our butts and moaning over Pakistan’s clandestine activities is not the only solution. We need to see development and clean governance. This is true for the whole country but specially so in the state of J&K. That will blunt the edges of the separatist arguments. Today thy are manipulating the grievances of the local population.”
Posted by DaraIndia

I completely agree with that statement!

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By: Seth http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/07/28/on-wikileaks-pakistan-and-afghanistan-the-tip-of-an-old-iceberg/comment-page-3/#comment-31339 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 02:34:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5845#comment-31339 For the record, I choose not to waste time with the trolls who park their head up their rear and thus can only talk sh*t when they come out and open their mouth.

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By: DaraIndia http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/07/28/on-wikileaks-pakistan-and-afghanistan-the-tip-of-an-old-iceberg/comment-page-3/#comment-31338 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 02:25:14 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5845#comment-31338 G-W my contention really is hat lack of a clean and effeicient administration in Kashmir has helped the militants garner support for their cause. That is where the politicl class has failed this country.

Pakistan’s overt and covert designs in Kashmir are simply not in doubt. But my feeling is that sitting on our butts and moaning over Pakistan’s clandestine activities is not the only solution. We need to see development and clean governance. This is true for the whole country but specially so in the state of J&K. That will blunt the edges of the separatist arguments. Today thy are manipulating the grievances of the local [population.

Haqqani has been in the US for long and seems a reasonable chap, but being an out and out Bhutto man, he has been singing a different tune of late than during the Mush days. There are quite a few contradictions in what he spouts today and his interviews a few years ago.

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By: DaraIndia http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/07/28/on-wikileaks-pakistan-and-afghanistan-the-tip-of-an-old-iceberg/comment-page-3/#comment-31337 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 02:11:12 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5845#comment-31337 “The kashmiris can’t be ’separatists’ since they never joined you. The can’t ’secede’ since they never joined your union.

get out of kashmir and pakistan will be a good neighbor.” Shakir

Kashmir never joined India?????? Which fairy tales did you read in your history books?

It is tripe like this which makes it impossible to hold a discussion with ignorance.

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By: RajeevK http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/07/28/on-wikileaks-pakistan-and-afghanistan-the-tip-of-an-old-iceberg/comment-page-3/#comment-31336 Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:15:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5845#comment-31336 Umair:

@In return of Pakistan giving up support of Haqqani’s and LeT, is India also willing to some sort of compromise and resolution of Kashmir dispute? Oh, I am sorry there is no dispute in Kashmir, it is already an integral part of India. I am sorry.”

— Then that indirectly means you support Mumbai 26/11 terrorism by LeT. Good job!!!

The day you get enlightened that LeT is a terrorist organization and must not be used as a tool to solve an issue will be the beginning of the solution. Pakistani journalists (not talking about most e-journalists/bloggers) try to say just what Indians say that Pakistan need to get rid of all sorts of terrorism for the best interest of Pakistan.

How long can you hold a burning matchstick in hand, the delay will burn your hand? Nukes have made it sure that Pakistan does not get into old acts of waging war against India and LeT cannot bring India down. Status quo makes sense if GOI taking care of Kashmir and the problems of Kashmiris without worrying about Pakistan.

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/07/28/on-wikileaks-pakistan-and-afghanistan-the-tip-of-an-old-iceberg/comment-page-3/#comment-31335 Sun, 01 Aug 2010 21:28:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5845#comment-31335 “Or is it a smokescreen to swallow Kashmir up into Pakistan instead? I don’t see much in that for the Kashmiris. It’s more like “from the frying pan into the fire”.”
Posted by prasadgc

I wasn’t aware of this until Rajeev informed me on this blog: Pakistan requires all elected officials from “Azad Kashmir” to pledge their allegience to Pakistan before they take office. If they refuse to do so, they are not allowed to take office. That tells a lot about Pakistan’s idea of “Azadi” (independence) for Kashmir.

PS: Don’t waste your time reasoning with trolls, it’s a waste of time & energy.

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